david in sweden Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Several hints on sites that suggest Sam G. is the loan target for a whole list of Championship clubs. Probably the best idea for his blossoming career. Unfortunate season for him with injuries etc, and he has surely dropped down whatever pecking order we had two years ago, so it's probably the best thing that could happen for him. A new challenge. At present, he clearly isn't another Harry Kane, but time will tell. He needs some real game time against tougher opposition than just other U21 sides. If he does well... he'll be another good alternative on the Saints bench in 2016-17...one way or another, he'll find his level sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 A loan away will do him good - as long as he plays and goes to decent club. MK Don's wouldn't be a bad shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Personally, I've never really seen a PL player in there. Could probably do a job in the NPC and below, but I don't see a PL player there. Whatever happens, I hope he finds somewhere to play regular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Personally, I've never really seen a PL player in there. Could probably do a job in the NPC and below, but I don't see a PL player there. Whatever happens, I hope he finds somewhere to play regular. I don't think you're looking hard enough tbf I think he needs a years loan playing every week against men , Harry Kane never just appeared in the Spurs first team! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 (edited) A loan away will do him good - as long as he plays and goes to decent club. MK Don's wouldn't be a bad shout. I saw them play last week. They're going to find it very hard going in the Championship with the squad that they've currently got. They've not really added any quality. There's a couple of decent players but they looked a million miles away from the teams who will finish in the top half. The addition of Gallagher would certainly give them something. Interestingly, Cody Cropper said he was really impressed with the set up at MK Dons. In his words 'It's very much like Saints but a few years behind'. Could be the ideal place for Sam to get regular football. Edited 24 July, 2015 by Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 It's the best thing for him in all honesty. I think there is a very good player in there somewhere and he was coming along well until the untimely death of his father. Must've been such a big ordeal for a young boy to go through. Hopefully now he's back to full fitness he goes out and bangs in a load of goals to reinvigorate himself. The experience will do him the world of good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Personally, I've never really seen a PL player in there. Could probably do a job in the NPC and below, but I don't see a PL player there. Whatever happens, I hope he finds somewhere to play regular. His goal in the U21 final was a stunning thing of beauty, hit with his wrong foot the ball never rose above 6 feet and it was still increasing in velocity when it hit the net, a truly great goal. His cross for Seager to score in the semi-final was also the best cross I saw at SMS last season. I think he has got it personally but what with his personal setback and then his injury a loan would be a good thing right now. I know that's what he wants, Sam is very ambitious and he has a good head on him. I will stick my neck out and say he has got what it takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 His goal in the U21 final was a stunning thing of beauty, hit with his wrong foot the ball never rose above 6 feet and it was still increasing in velocity when it hit the net, a truly great goal. His cross for Seager to score in the semi-final was also the best cross I saw at SMS last season. I think he has got it personally but what with his personal setback and then his injury a loan would be a good thing right now. I know that's what he wants, Sam is very ambitious and he has a good head on him. I will stick my neck out and say he has got what it takes. FF Where would you play him though? As a central striker (where he started) or out wide on the right as per U21's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris27687 Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 He would only realistically get game time in the League Cup so it's probably best he plays 35+ games for someone in the Championship - ideally someone who plays a similar style to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 FF Where would you play him though? As a central striker (where he started) or out wide on the right as per U21's? I believe he likes to play down the middle but he can do a job out wide, very much a Jay-Rod type forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Personally, I've never really seen a PL player in there. Could probably do a job in the NPC and below, but I don't see a PL player there. Whatever happens, I hope he finds somewhere to play regular. Agree with this. Loan spell exactly what he needs. Not good enough to make an impact at PL level at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 I believe he likes to play down the middle but he can do a job out wide, very much a Jay-Rod type forward. He doesn't have the pace nor agility of Jay Rod. He is a centre forward who was playing wide because Seager was scoring every week and we only played one up top in the U21s to mirror the first team. In the rest of that U21 final he was one of the poorer players IMO. Which is fine as he was coming back from a serious injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loan him to Celtic for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Not convinced he's a top flight player. At best I think lower half of the table but even then I think at this age he's a bit part. Best option for his career would be going on loan and hopefully improving. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loan him to Celtic for a season. Good shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 I think we have become so used to players getting into the 1st team at a young age that we are in danger of writing them off if they don't make it by 18/19. I hope that Sam is given a decent chance to stake his claim. Perhaps a season with a decent Championship side would good for him and us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loan him to Celtic for a season. Get on the phone to Les. Great shout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loan him to Celtic for a season. Loaning him to Feyenoord might be better, at least he would get some competitive games, unlike the SPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loaning him to Feyenoord might be better, at least he would get some competitive games, unlike the SPL. Maybe for their U21s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 I think we have become so used to players getting into the 1st team at a young age that we are in danger of writing them off if they don't make it by 18/19. I hope that Sam is given a decent chance to stake his claim. Perhaps a season with a decent Championship side would good for him and us? My thoughts too. People write young players off too soon. Some obviously won't make it but others might have to move elsewhere to get the chance they need to kick on, be it on loan or permanent. I'd imagine given what the lad's been through the club will give him a bit more time before making a final judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 My thoughts too. People write young players off too soon. Some obviously won't make it but others might have to move elsewhere to get the chance they need to kick on, be it on loan or permanent. I'd imagine given what the lad's been through the club will give him a bit more time before making a final judgement. Of course they will and he may turn out to be a class player. But just as equally people expect every young player who plays a first team game for Southampton to be a long term option. The reality is many just won't be good enough to make an impact in the "best league in the world" but will have a great career in football like Billy Sharp or Richard Chaplow have. The amount people slate Pelle, yet he is miles and miles ahead of Gallagher unless he transforms his game in about 2 years. The hype comes from the success of the likes of Shaw who came into the team aged 18 and was one of the best players in his position in the entire league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Sell him, he's a bag of b#llocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 His goal in the U21 final was a stunning thing of beauty, hit with his wrong foot the ball never rose above 6 feet and it was still increasing in velocity when it hit the net, a truly great goal. His cross for Seager to score in the semi-final was also the best cross I saw at SMS last season. I think he has got it personally but what with his personal setback and then his injury a loan would be a good thing right now. I know that's what he wants, Sam is very ambitious and he has a good head on him. I will stick my neck out and say he has got what it takes. A striker with the ability to violate the laws of physics with his shots should not be loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 His goal in the U21 final was a stunning thing of beauty, hit with his wrong foot the ball never rose above 6 feet and it was still increasing in velocity when it hit the net, a truly great goal. His cross for Seager to score in the semi-final was also the best cross I saw at SMS last season. I think he has got it personally but what with his personal setback and then his injury a loan would be a good thing right now. I know that's what he wants, Sam is very ambitious and he has a good head on him. I will stick my neck out and say he has got what it takes. I was going to post that one of our community knows Sam and his family really well. Maybe it is your good self? Before reading your post, I would have said 'ask if this is something he would like to do - go out on loan' as I wouldn't want to push him out if he would rather train with us and get the odd game. However, if you are the friend of the family and that comment is representative of his preference, then I would grant him that wish. As long as J-Rod stays fit, he can play up top, as can Long - admittedly not the same sort of leader of the line as Pelle, but we can work around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Sell him, he's a bag of b#llocks. You really are a f*cking knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Loan him to Celtic for a season. He's still a young man, not sure its fair to send him to another country. Maybe somewhere commutable eg MK Dons was mentioned. Or Reading? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 I was going to post that one of our community knows Sam and his family really well. Maybe it is your good self? Before reading your post, I would have said 'ask if this is something he would like to do - go out on loan' as I wouldn't want to push him out if he would rather train with us and get the odd game. However, if you are the friend of the family and that comment is representative of his preference, then I would grant him that wish. As long as J-Rod stays fit, he can play up top, as can Long - admittedly not the same sort of leader of the line as Pelle, but we can work around that. All I can say is I know Sam thinks a loan move to a decent Championship team is the right move for him now. He needs decent competitive football - which a loan spell would bring - and the club are in agreement. It worked for the likes of Defoe (Bournemouth) and Beckham (Preston) and I truly believe Sam (still only 19) has what it takes. I remember watching Channon at 20/21 and he could look awful but suddenly he blossomed and I am confident Sam has true potential, he has size, presence, skill, self-belief and determination. Players like him don't come along every day, he needs nurturing and he needs to mature but those who are being a bit disdainful have unrealistic expectations. The Prem has changed a lot since the likes of Alan Shearer was able to force his way into the limelight aged 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 A striker with the ability to violate the laws of physics with his shots should not be loaned out. Genuine LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Thanks Duncan, good reading. Be interesting to see where he could go. Bournemouth would have been obvious if they hadn't come up. Brighton probably not high enough. Reading... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 Thanks Duncan, good reading. Be interesting to see where he could go. Bournemouth would have been obvious if they hadn't come up. Brighton probably not high enough. Reading... ? Bournemouth is a good shout. Won't be able to score against us but may help them take points from our rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 We seem to have sent loans to Swindon in recent years. I think he'd get proper game time there, perhaps less so at Reading. He is a big lad with decent skill. He will bulk out and hopefully his positional sense will improve. Agree with FF, he could be a very handy striker for us but needs game time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 24 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 24 July, 2015 All I can say is I know Sam thinks a loan move to a decent Championship team is the right move for him now. He needs decent competitive football - which a loan spell would bring - and the club are in agreement. It worked for the likes of Defoe (Bournemouth) and Beckham (Preston) and I truly believe Sam (still only 19) has what it takes. I remember watching Channon at 20/21 and he could look awful but suddenly he blossomed and I am confident Sam has true potential, he has size, presence, skill, self-belief and determination. Players like him don't come along every day, he needs nurturing and he needs to mature but those who are being a bit disdainful have unrealistic expectations. The Prem has changed a lot since the likes of Alan Shearer was able to force his way into the limelight aged 17. and as we recall Duncan, ....it took a season or so for Mick and Alan .S to become a regular.....Sam has time on his side, it shouldn't be wasted in the U21s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 His goal in the U21 final was a stunning thing of beauty, hit with his wrong foot the ball never rose above 6 feet and it was still increasing in velocity when it hit the net, a truly great goal. His cross for Seager to score in the semi-final was also the best cross I saw at SMS last season. I think he has got it personally but what with his personal setback and then his injury a loan would be a good thing right now. I know that's what he wants, Sam is very ambitious and he has a good head on him. I will stick my neck out and say he has got what it takes. FF Where would you play him though? As a central striker (where he started) or out wide on the right as per U21's? I believe he likes to play down the middle but he can do a job out wide, very much a Jay-Rod type forward. Good analysis Duncan .......and he is only 19 and has been set back 2 years.......... Swindon would be a good shout for a loan spell........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 24 July, 2015 Share Posted 24 July, 2015 didn't he had to deal with the death of his father? if so can't blame the man for being hit with setbacks / depression. I think he has potential and a loan would be a great move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 25 July, 2015 Share Posted 25 July, 2015 In theory, a loan away with plenty of first team football would be a good idea to help bring him on. However that does need to be balanced against how he would react to moving away. I don't know Sam at all, but given what he's been through - if he lives at home at the moment then a loan away will mean leaving his own family and also the 'Saints family' that would have been supportive to him. It could make or break him as a person as much as a footballer. That said, we seem to be a club that does look at things beyond a football pitch so I'm sure they're taking the off the field situation into account as much as the on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 26 July, 2015 In theory, a loan away with plenty of first team football would be a good idea to help bring him on. However that does need to be balanced against how he would react to moving away. I don't know Sam at all, but given what he's been through - if he lives at home at the moment then a loan away will mean leaving his own family and also the 'Saints family' that would have been supportive to him. It could make or break him as a person as much as a footballer. That said, we seem to be a club that does look at things beyond a football pitch so I'm sure they're taking the off the field situation into account as much as the on the field. I think that's the only reservation that I would have, too. Even though he's already 19, he might not settle so well on his own in a strange environment. The " family " is a key part of the Saints Academy structure and surely one of the reasons that Sam has come so far, so quickly. Hopefully the club will take note of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 Sam is very much up for a loan, he sees it as a progressive move, good for his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 8 championship clubs want SG on loan, apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 8 championship clubs want SG on loan, apparently Would be great for him to get regular games in a decent side. Someone like Wolves would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 Would be great for him to get regular games in a decent side. Someone like Wolves would be good. I keep hearing Wolves would be good but why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 I keep hearing Wolves would be good but why? Big club, good home pitch, good Manager, likely to get minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 Big club, good home pitch, good Manager, likely to get minutes. I'd rather he went to Sheffield United with Adkins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 July, 2015 Author Share Posted 26 July, 2015 I'd rather he went to Sheffield United with Adkins! depends on how long Adkins will stay at Sheff.Utd. L1.. poor pitches, low on skills and heavy on fouls. A good Championship side is the best bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 depends on how long Adkins will stay at Sheff.Utd. L1.. poor pitches, low on skills and heavy on fouls. A good Championship side is the best bet. L1 didn't harm the development of Schneiderlin or Lallana did it ? That said, inclined to agree Championship might be a better option, providing its to a team who try and play a bit, not just taking him as "oh he's a big lad, can play as a battering ram up front for us...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 26 July, 2015 Share Posted 26 July, 2015 depends on how long Adkins will stay at Sheff.Utd. L1.. poor pitches, low on skills and heavy on fouls. A good Championship side is the best bet. I think the rough and tumble in league 1 and Adkins style of play will do him good , do it for 6 months and if he does well look for a championship club in January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 July, 2015 Share Posted 28 July, 2015 @reluctantnicko: BLACKBURN ROVERS. Can't join the Sam Gallagher race. Southampton want a loan fee. These FFP rules are a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 28 July, 2015 Share Posted 28 July, 2015 @reluctantnicko: BLACKBURN ROVERS. Can't join the Sam Gallagher race. Southampton want a loan fee. These FFP rules are a joke. Hopefully - and I'm sure they will - the club will allow him to go to the best place to improve him as a player rather than worry about the few grand we'd get as a loan fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 July, 2015 Share Posted 28 July, 2015 What usually happens is the owning club ask for a fee which they then return piecemeal everytime their player makes an appearance. That acts as an inducement for the loaning club to pick the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 July, 2015 Share Posted 28 July, 2015 Would he get in a championship side!? I'm not convinced from what I've seen, but certainly would do him good going out on loan. I'd be tempted to loan him to someone like Swindon until January, then if he does well either extend, or send him to a Championship club then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 July, 2015 Share Posted 28 July, 2015 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/07/28/southampton-striker-gallagher-targeted-by-mk-dons/? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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