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[Nolan]

Lol, it doesn't matter how many twisted, false accusations you try to pin on Corbyn. You and your mate Tony are on the wrong side of history and always will be. Thanks to his war you are neck deep in innocent blood.

Which of his accusations against Corbyn are false please? (fake news sites like Novara, Canary, Breitbart are not advertising as refeference)

 

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[Jonnyboy]

Which of his accusations against Corbyn are false please? (fake news sites like Novara, Canary, Breitbart are not advertising as refeference)

 

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Well for a start, there are zero facts in gastroenteritis' post. And any opinion Blair has is invalid, much like the championer of Xbox One failing to admit his errors.

[Nolan]

Well for a start, there are zero facts in gastroenteritis' post. And any opinion Blair has is invalid, much like the championer of Xbox One failing to admit his errors.

Lol.... Again attempted (but failed) Insults are pulled out as you can't pull out any factual inaccuracies.

 

 

 

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[Jonnyboy]

Lol.... Again attempted (but failed) Insults are pulled out as you can't pull out any factual inaccuracies. Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

 

There are no facts presented! So there is nothing for me to present as inaccurate in response. Lol.

[Nolan]

There are no facts presented! So there is nothing for me to present as inaccurate in response. Lol.

So why bother saying “it doesn't matter how many twisted, false accusations you try to pin on Corbyn“

 

Was it a deflection technique borrowed from the socialist in chief?

 

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[Verbal]

Well for a start, there are zero facts in gastroenteritis' post. And any opinion Blair has is invalid, much like the championer of Xbox One failing to admit his errors.

 

The facts might amount to 'zero' if you bury your head deep and long enough that you refuse to face them.

 

Here's Corbyn consorting happily with Greek 'journalist' Marcus Papadopoulos, who maintains that the Srebrenica massacre of Muslim men and boys by Serbians was a hoax. This scumbag also insists that the siege of Sarajevo didn't happen.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/srebrenica-genocide-denier-marcus-papadopoulos-dines-with-corbyn-bqc2mvzlh

 

The reason Corbyn cosies up to him is clear enough. Papadooulos is also an Assadist, and this appeals immensely to St Jeremy's knee-jerk anti-Western outlook. The fact that he's also a revolting apologist for genocidal Islamophobic psychopaths is neither here nor there.

 

Still, everyone needs 'friends', right fanboy?

 

And just to highlight the cretinism of your second sentence, are you really so so dim as to be unable to distinguish between an argument and an individual? What exactly is wrong with Blair's argument that Brexit + Corbyn government would be a disaster? You may think you have an answer - so why don't you give one, instead of resorting to pathetic ad hominems?

 

Oh, and 'blood on my hands'? That's rich. I'm no Blairite, and never have been, and like the majority of the country I was vehemently against the war (somewhat informed by knowing the place).

 

What I have been all these years is (mostly) a Labour voter - you know, the kind of person you're going to have to convince to vote Labour again in the future. Not going well so far, is it?

[Jonnyboy]

The facts might amount to 'zero' if you bury your head deep and long enough that you refuse to face them.

 

Here's Corbyn consorting happily with Greek 'journalist' Marcus Papadopoulos, who maintains that the Srebrenica massacre of Muslim men and boys by Serbians was a hoax. This scumbag also insists that the siege of Sarajevo didn't happen.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/srebrenica-genocide-denier-marcus-papadopoulos-dines-with-corbyn-bqc2mvzlh

 

The reason Corbyn cosies up to him is clear enough. Papadooulos is also an Assadist, and this appeals immensely to St Jeremy's knee-jerk anti-Western outlook. The fact that he's also a revolting apologist for genocidal Islamophobic psychopaths is neither here nor there.

 

Still, everyone needs 'friends', right fanboy?

 

And just to highlight the cretinism of your second sentence, are you really so so dim as to be unable to distinguish between an argument and an individual? What exactly is wrong with Blair's argument that Brexit + Corbyn government would be a disaster? You may think you have an answer - so why don't you give one, instead of resorting to pathetic ad hominems?

 

Oh, and 'blood on my hands'? That's rich. I'm no Blairite, and never have been, and like the majority of the country I was vehemently against the war (somewhat informed by knowing the place).

 

What I have been all these years is (mostly) a Labour voter - you know, the kind of person you're going to have to convince to vote Labour again in the future. Not going well so far, is it?

 

Yet you kept voting for Blair. Not a pro-am Blairite but still voted for him three times in a row? First sniff of an anti-war socialist and its all "I can never vote for him." Some sort of deranged delusion going on there for sure Gastro.

[aintforever]

The facts might amount to 'zero' if you bury your head deep and long enough that you refuse to face them.

 

Here's Corbyn consorting happily with Greek 'journalist' Marcus Papadopoulos, who maintains that the Srebrenica massacre of Muslim men and boys by Serbians was a hoax. This scumbag also insists that the siege of Sarajevo didn't happen.

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/srebrenica-genocide-denier-marcus-papadopoulos-dines-with-corbyn-bqc2mvzlh

 

The reason Corbyn cosies up to him is clear enough. Papadooulos is also an Assadist, and this appeals immensely to St Jeremy's knee-jerk anti-Western outlook. The fact that he's also a revolting apologist for genocidal Islamophobic psychopaths is neither here nor there.

 

Still, everyone needs 'friends', right fanboy?

 

And just to highlight the cretinism of your second sentence, are you really so so dim as to be unable to distinguish between an argument and an individual? What exactly is wrong with Blair's argument that Brexit + Corbyn government would be a disaster? You may think you have an answer - so why don't you give one, instead of resorting to pathetic ad hominems?

 

Oh, and 'blood on my hands'? That's rich. I'm no Blairite, and never have been, and like the majority of the country I was vehemently against the war (somewhat informed by knowing the place).

 

What I have been all these years is (mostly) a Labour voter - you know, the kind of person you're going to have to convince to vote Labour again in the future. Not going well so far, is it?

 

"consorting happily with" "cosies up to" - you are worse than a tabloid journo. You mean he sat at the same table with the bloke and have absolutely no evidence that he agrees with th guy on those issues.

[Nolan]

"consorting happily with" "cosies up to" - you are worse than a tabloid journo. You mean he sat at the same table with the bloke and have absolutely no evidence that he agrees with th guy on those issues.

He does bump into one hell of a lot of nefarious individuals.

 

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[shurlock]

He does bump into one hell of a lot of nefarious individuals.

 

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A lot of your bum chums on order-order don't have a problem with this fella, Papadopoulos. Indeed, they're pretty sympathetic to his message.

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[CB Fry]

"consorting happily with" "cosies up to" - you are worse than a tabloid journo. You mean he sat at the same table with the bloke and have absolutely no evidence that he agrees with th guy on those issues.

I think there is a wee bit of evidence that Corbyn subscribes to the view that the genocide in Kosovo didn't happen.

 

But, yeah, just a completely random meeting in a restaurant that could happen to anyone.

[aintforever]

I think there is a wee bit of evidence that Corbyn subscribes to the view that the genocide in Kosovo didn't happen.

 

But, yeah, just a completely random meeting in a restaurant that could happen to anyone.

 

I wouldn't have a clue what Corbyn's views on Kosovo are but having a meal with someone doesn't mean you share their views.

 

I have dined with people who have all sorts of ****ed up opinions. It means nothing.

[CB Fry]

I wouldn't have a clue what Corbyn's views on Kosovo are but having a meal with someone doesn't mean you share their views.

 

I have dined with people who have all sorts of ****ed up opinions. It means nothing.

 

So in you've gone from claiming there is "absolutely no evidence that he agree with the guy on those issues" for which there is evidence to suggest he does inseed agree with him but you just switch to saying "well, we all dine with people we don't agree with don't we though??". Sod the evidence.

 

Maybe, just maybe, he does agree with him on some things which is why he is happy to socialise with him. Maybe that?

[Jonnyboy]

So in you've gone from claiming there is "absolutely no evidence that he agree with the guy on those issues" for which there is evidence to suggest he does inseed agree with him but you just switch to saying "well, we all dine with people we don't agree with don't we though??". Sod the evidence.

 

Maybe, just maybe, he does agree with him on some things which is why he is happy to socialise with him. Maybe that?

 

Maybe anything. F*cking hell, I waste half my spare engaging with debate on websites with all sorts of disagreables like dune and batman. As said above, doesn't mean I subscribe to their lunacy.

[aintforever]

So in you've gone from claiming there is "absolutely no evidence that he agree with the guy on those issues" for which there is evidence to suggest he does inseed agree with him but you just switch to saying "well, we all dine with people we don't agree with don't we though??". Sod the evidence.

 

Maybe, just maybe, he does agree with him on some things which is why he is happy to socialise with him. Maybe that?

 

The poster did not present any evidence, just the fact that they shared a dinner table. Maybe there is evidence, maybe there is not. **** me it's not rocket science.

[CB Fry]

The poster did not present any evidence, just the fact that they shared a dinner table. Maybe there is evidence, maybe there is not. **** me it's not rocket science.

You said "I wouldn't have a clue what Corbyn's view on Kosovo is".

 

Well, get a fu cking clue. Fu ck me it's not rocket science.

[aintforever]

You said "I wouldn't have a clue what Corbyn's view on Kosovo is".

 

Well, get a fu cking clue. Fu ck me it's not rocket science.

 

Next time I see him I will ask. Meanwhile who he has dinner with means absolutely **** all.

[Nolan]

There is evidence that Corbyn agrees... He signed early day motion 392, querying genocide in Serbia.

 

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[CB Fry]

Next time I see him I will ask. Meanwhile who he has dinner with means absolutely **** all.

Who's talking about who he has dinner with? You said "I wouldn't have a clue what Corbyn's view on Kosovo is".

 

Get a clue. Try reading.

 

Thick as mince, as ever.

[Jonnyboy]

The smearers are so desperate lol. First he's a pacifist who loves all Muslims. Then he's in cahoots with Assad and others who massacre Muslim civilians.

Same as his immigration policy, first he's a hard core brexiter who hates the EU, next he's wanting to flood the country with unlimited immigrants. All part of billionaire-class' efforts to discredit him. Unfortunately for them such extreme and unreasonable propaganda against him has backfired as seen at the last election:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-voters-reasons-jeremy-corbyn-manifesto-local-mp-mandatory-reselection-a7840856.html

[Lord Duckhunter]

Unfortunately for them such extreme and unreasonable propaganda against him has backfired as seen at the last election:

 

The one he lost?

 

 

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[shurlock]

The one he lost?

 

 

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You mean the one in which May was predicted to win a 100-seat majority.

[Nolan]

You mean the one in which May was predicted to win a 100-seat majority.

Yes, the one he lost. Even though he offered to wipe our existing student debt which they have now u turned on.

 

No wonder labour are down 4% in the latest poll.

 

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[shurlock]

Yes, the one he lost. Even though he offered to wipe our existing student debt which they have now u turned on.

 

No wonder labour are down 4% in the latest poll.

 

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Where did Jonnyboy say Labour had won? It seems you and Lord Pony are imagining things again

 

Which poll are you talking about? The Survation Poll - the one that still puts Labour ahead?

[Nolan]

Yep. Labour need a 7% lead to get government.

 

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[shurlock]

Yep. Labour need a 7% lead to get government.

 

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Clearly, depends what assumptions you're making re. how and where its projected 41% vote share is distributed. And what does 'get government' mean in standard English, not in Nolanspeak on his Nexus 6P via Tapatalk? A minority government? A Commons majority?

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[aintforever]

Who's talking about who he has dinner with?

 

The original post I commented on you dumb ****.

[Lord Duckhunter]

You mean the one in which May was predicted to win a 100-seat majority.

 

The one where the British people gave May more seats & more votes than Corbyn, you know the one he "won". The same one where he proved he was electable, by not getting elected . That one

 

 

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[Jonnyboy]

The one where the British people gave May more seats & more votes than Corbyn, you know the one he "won", and proved he was electable by, not getting elected . That one

 

 

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Lol, still can't admit your girl got her arse handed to her. So much so she cried a little tear in self pity.

[hypochondriac]

The one where the most boneheaded and inept Conservative manifesto and election campaign in a generation still managed to defeat corbyn.

[shurlock]

The one where the British people gave May more seats & more votes than Corbyn, you know the one he "won". The same one where he proved he was electable, by not getting elected . That one

 

 

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The one where May was poised to become the most powerful leader in Europe, rivalling Merkel and consign the Labour Party to the dustbin of history?

[Nolan]

The one where May was poised to become the most powerful leader in Europe, rivalling Merkel and consign the Labour Party to the dustbin of history?

What will happen now McDonnell has let the cat out of the bag that the "wipe student debt" statement from the NME was an out and of lie.

 

The Labour lead is down to 2% after a month.

 

I'd love to see what happens after the momentum conference in Septembe.

 

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[shurlock]

What will happen now McDonnell has let the cat out of the bag that the "wipe student debt" statement from the NME was an out and of lie.

 

The Labour lead is down to 2% after a month.

 

I'd love to see what happens after the momentum conference in Septembe.

 

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Why not price or factor in developments that could eat away at Tory support -making a mess of the Brexit negotiations, a deteriorating economy, party disunity and conflict? Each of which poses much greater risks to the Tories than the risks you identify for Labour.

[Nolan]

Why not price or factor in developments that could eat away at Tory support -making a mess of the Brexit negotiations, a deteriorating economy, party disunity and conflict? Each of which poses much greater risks to the Tories than the risks you identify for Labour.

Economy is very much on the up. Record jobs. Cabinet issues will end shortly as back benches have no want for a leadership election.

 

Just wait till the momentum conference where trident and the armed forces and Palestine will come to the fore.

 

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[shurlock]

Economy is very much on the up. Record jobs. Cabinet issues will end shortly as back benches have no want for a leadership election.

 

Just wait till the momentum conference where trident and the armed forces and Palestine will come to the fore.

 

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Economy on the up?

 

You really don't do a good job of dispelling those dim right-winger stereotypes, do you?

[Lord Duckhunter]

The one where the most boneheaded and inept Conservative manifesto and election campaign in a generation still managed to defeat corbyn.

 

Exactly

 

 

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[Nolan]

Economy on the up?

 

You really don't do a good job of dispelling those dim right-winger stereotypes, do you?

Record jobs. Inflation at 2.9 due to last year's currency adjustment. Will be back to 2% soon.

 

Point me to the bad economy figures...

 

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[shurlock]

Record jobs. Inflation at 2.9 due to last year's currency adjustment. Will be back to 2% soon.

 

Point me to the bad economy figures...

 

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It's been discussed ad nauseum on these pages -

 

http://app.ft.com/content/317b4f28-62ef-11e7-8814-0ac7eb84e5f1

 

Just for you little fella:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4693274/Recession-inevitable-economic-watchdog-warns.html

 

The UK economy is highly vulnerable with plenty of risks to the downside. Many of the problems are structural such as the UK's abysmal productivity record which goes back decades. But they can only be an albatross for the Tories, as the incumbent government, come 2022.

Edited 16 July, 2017 by shurlock

[hypochondriac]

The one where May was poised to become the most powerful leader in Europe, rivalling Merkel and consign the Labour Party to the dustbin of history?

Not many were predicting that after seeing the Tory manifesto and after the campaign produced one car crash after another.

[badgerx16]

So, going back to the original premise of this thread, is the Labour Party dead yet ?

[Nolan]

It's been discussed ad nauseum on these pages -

 

http://app.ft.com/content/317b4f28-62ef-11e7-8814-0ac7eb84e5f1

 

Just for you little fella:

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4693274/Recession-inevitable-economic-watchdog-warns.html

 

The UK economy is highly vulnerable with plenty of risks to the downside. Many of the problems are structural such as the UK's abysmal productivity record which goes back decades. But they can only be an albatross for the Tories, as the incumbent government, come 2022.

Only needed to read to paragraph two of the dm article

 

Seeing as the government isn't got to bow to public / populist pressure and increase spending everything is going to be fine...

 

According to the obr

 

 

 

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[shurlock]

Only needed to read to paragraph two of the dm article

 

Seeing as the government isn't got to bow to public / populist pressure and increase spending everything is going to be fine...

 

According to the obr

 

 

 

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[Winnersaint]

Only needed to read to paragraph two of the dm article

 

Seeing as the government isn't got to bow to public / populist pressure and increase spending everything is going to be fine...

 

According to the obr

 

 

 

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Why would anyone believe a fascist rag like that, unless they were congenitally stupid?

[Nolan]

Why would anyone believe a fascist rag like that, unless they were congenitally stupid?

'Fascist mag' ? Sheesh, there is no saving society if anything slightly right of centre is deemed as 'fascist'.

 

Get a sense of perspective.

 

 

 

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[badgerx16]

'Fascist mag' ? Sheesh, there is no saving society if anything slightly right of centre is deemed as 'fascist'.

 

Get a sense of perspective.

 

If you believe that the DM is 'slightly right of centre' then your perpective is most certainly skewed.

[scotty]

'Fascist mag' ? Sheesh, there is no saving society if anything slightly right of centre is deemed as 'fascist'.

 

Get a sense of perspective.

 

 

 

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[Nolan]

A few minutes after he posted the tweet, it was realised that the fines were in Wales, where Labour holds full devolved power over things like.... NHS parking charges.

 

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[buctootim]

A few minutes after he posted the tweet, it was realised that the fines were in Wales, where Labour holds full devolved power over things like.... NHS parking charges.

 

Do you not fact check anything? The Welsh Assembly did away with parking charges in Wales in 2008. The Cardiff UHW is one of the few remaining exceptions because the operator had a long term contract until 2021 and it would be unlawful to break it. Nothing Corbyn said is wrong. If only that were true of you even 10% of the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7273649.stm

[Nolan]

Do you not fact check anything? The Welsh Assembly did away with parking charges in Wales in 2008. The Cardiff UHW is one of the few remaining exceptions because the operator had a long term contract until 2021 and it would be unlawful to break it. Nothing Corbyn said is wrong. If only that were true of you even 10% of the time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/7273649.stm

The Welsh assembly is also capable of paying off companies to get out of contracts.

 

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[shurlock]

Nolan distinguishing himself again