ScepticalStan Posted 19 July, 2015 Share Posted 19 July, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/vb.146505212039213/1532325163457204/?type=2&theater 2 million views on Facebook today alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/vb.146505212039213/1532325163457204/?type=2&theater 2 million views on Facebook today alone. Whilst I agree with the sentiment, he's very annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 Complete and utter pony. What a complete tosser. Going on about how enlightened " his generation" are and " its older people " that are ignorant. Is that the " older people" who risked their lives for foreigners all over the world , and built a great country that gives the freedom for spotty big mouths from his generation to spout bull . The gist of his argument seems to be that its fate we're British and just down to luck . wow, that's insightful. I doubt if there's anyone from this " older generation " who thinks otherwise, but that doesn't mean we can abandon borders or countries, everybody having the right to live where they want. He's even more annoying than little Owen Jones and needs a slap. Hopefully one of " his parents" generation who fought in Cyprus or The Falklands or protected Catholics in Belfast or Muslims in Bosnia will deliver it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 I can't believe people make and share these opinion pieces. Call me old fashioned, but when I watch or listen to someone talking about a subject, I like them to have conducted some research, and to be making a reasoned argument based on evidence. These YouTube jockeys are the digital equivalent of the 'bloke down the pub', except that the bloke down the pub would probably now rather be giggling at videos of other self important dildos that discussing their opinions with an actual human. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/vb.146505212039213/1532325163457204/?type=2&theater 2 million views on Facebook today alone. You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public. Those who find this outspoken gobsh*te's views impressive are the same ones who rate that other idiot Brand as some sort of juvenile pseudo-intellectual. Pretend to be angry and contoversial in your 4th form views, scatter a few expletives for effect and sit back and wait for the internet clicks to multiply. But internet clicks don't necessarily imply support, as most will have been gained through idle curiosity by the twitter generation of airheads who could do with getting a life in the real world rather than in the cyber one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyNumber7 Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 What an utter bellend. Needs to lay off the coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 He must have a point or the kippers on here wouldn't be getting riled up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 What a nob head, just another idiot who doesn't understand that being against mass immigration has nothing to do with racism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjsaint Posted 20 July, 2015 Share Posted 20 July, 2015 He says a lot of swears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 You can never underestimate the stupidity of the general public. Those who find this outspoken gobsh*te's views impressive are the same ones who rate that other idiot Brand as some sort of juvenile pseudo-intellectual. Pretend to be angry and contoversial in your 4th form views, scatter a few expletives for effect and sit back and wait for the internet clicks to multiply. But internet clicks don't necessarily imply support, as most will have been gained through idle curiosity by the twitter generation of airheads who could do with getting a life in the real world rather than in the cyber one 'Twitter generation of airheads'. Ever feel out of touch? Thankfully we have Saintsweb for the more cerebral musings. I didn't click on link but imagine I actually agree with Duckhunter in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 (edited) As the new generation changes the world the older generation will always resent them for it. Kinda funny to watch it all play out from afar. I didn't watch the whole video because he is damn annoying, but if the general gist of it is "countries are imaginary and pointless", "you won the lottery of life by being born here" and "racism is still inherent in society and some people like to express their racist views through complaining about bloody immigrants" then he's clearly right, despite being an annoying Youtuber. Regardless of the fact that our grandfathers and grandmothers fought and gave their lives for "our" country, it doesn't change what's true instead of us being a world of different individual groups of people who must all stay on the one piece of land mass they were born on, we are all one. One looooove. Right I'm off to hug a tree and smoke a bong. Edited 21 July, 2015 by niceandfriendly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 He is a rather "ranty" young chap, isn't he. I tried to watch it through to the end, but he was starting to frighten the cats. Nothing a stint in the Army wouldn't iron out in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Regardless of the fact that our grandfathers and grandmothers fought and gave their lives for "our" country But that's the point, they didn't just give up their lives for " our " country. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the whole of Europe , for the Falkland islanders ( I know they're Brits but would the twitter generation lay down their lives for a piece of rock thousands of miles away) , for Cypriots , for Bosnians . To try and make out the young now more enlightened or kinder than previous generations is nonsense. There are just as many racists and bigots between 20-30 as there are between 70-80. Difference is I doubt if many 80 year olds shout their mouths off , swearing and bigging themselves up. They tend to just live and let live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 To try and make out the young now more enlightened or kinder than previous generations is nonsense. There are just as many racists and bigots between 20-30 as there are between 70-80. Difference is I doubt if many 80 year olds shout their mouths off , swearing and bigging themselves up. They tend to just live and let live. Obviously there are always certain patterns of thought that will run through generations - you'll always have your left and right. I do happen to think that the young people in this country and across the world are more progressive compared to previous generations as they've grown up in a generally more progressive world in terms of civil rights and international relations. If you'd taken 100 people aged 18-30 in 1915 and asked them their views on gay marriage, immigration, equal rights etc and did the same with 100 youngsters in 2015 I think you'd find a difference in the general consensus because the consensus of society at the time was different. The world's getting smaller and I think we're learning not to be so scared of everyone outside our own cultural group as we have been previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 'Twitter generation of airheads'. Ever feel out of touch? Thankfully we have Saintsweb for the more cerebral musings. I didn't click on link but imagine I actually agree with Duckhunter in this case. It's good that you've managed to form an opinion on it without watching it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 But that's the point, they didn't just give up their lives for " our " country. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the whole of Europe , for the Falkland islanders ( I know they're Brits but would the twitter generation lay down their lives for a piece of rock thousands of miles away) , for Cypriots , for Bosnians . To try and make out the young now more enlightened or kinder than previous generations is nonsense. There are just as many racists and bigots between 20-30 as there are between 70-80. Difference is I doubt if many 80 year olds shout their mouths off , swearing and bigging themselves up. They tend to just live and let live. What a load of self-righteous rubbish. How exactly did the British lay down their lives for Cypriots? But fighting against them in a long bloody war of Independence? Suggesting some kind of heroic self sacrifice by an older generation of Brits at attempt to hold onto colonies and occupy foreign lands. The irony here of course being that Cyprus and the Falklands are full of British migrants. Much as I'm sure there are racist bigots in younger generations, as a generalisation I don't doubt that the proportion is much smaller than in older generations. And why do you space out your punctuation in such a bizarre way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/vb.146505212039213/1532325163457204/?type=2&theater 2 million views on Facebook today alone. You mean "whose", right? "Who is country is this?" makes no sense. And as a pedant in my 40s who can't be arsed to watch an opinion on YouTube (because why would I care?) this is pretty much my contribution to the whole debate. With head shaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Bloody immigrants. Coming over here, defending our country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 And don't get me started on those Polish stealing our pilots jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 I'm enjoying Lord D equating the Falklands War with some grand gesture of freedom. Hats off to the armed forces and the sacrifices they make but trying to apply the "we fought a war for you, son" rhetoric to the bloody Falklands is self righteous garbage. Males a change from his EUSSR routine, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 But that's the point, they didn't just give up their lives for " our " country. They made the ultimate sacrifice for the whole of Europe , for the Falkland islanders ( I know they're Brits but would the twitter generation lay down their lives for a piece of rock thousands of miles away) , for Cypriots , for Bosnians . To try and make out the young now more enlightened or kinder than previous generations is nonsense. There are just as many racists and bigots between 20-30 as there are between 70-80. Difference is I doubt if many 80 year olds shout their mouths off , swearing and bigging themselves up. They tend to just live and let live. That's ******, old people are way more racist. You can add homophobic and sexist to that as well. It doesn't make them worse, it's just culture is forever changing and in today's world people are way less ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 That's ******, old people are way more racist. You can add homophobic and sexist to that as well. It doesn't make them worse, it's just culture is forever changing and in today's world people are way less ignorant. That's ageist. You're showing your intolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 That's ageist. You're showing your intolerance. I'm old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 I'm old Still ageist Or are you saying only young people can be ageist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Still ageist Or are you saying only young people can be ageist? I don't think its ageist to say that in general older people tend to be more racist, sexist and homophobic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 I don't think its ageist to say that in general older people tend to be more racist, sexist and homophobic. I think that's almost a definition. I'm not deadly serious about this, in case you haven't guessed, but there are some valid points in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 I can't believe people make and share these opinion pieces. Call me old fashioned, but when I watch or listen to someone talking about a subject, I like them to have conducted some research, and to be making a reasoned argument based on evidence. These YouTube jockeys are the digital equivalent of the 'bloke down the pub', except that the bloke down the pub would probably now rather be giggling at videos of other self important dildos that discussing their opinions with an actual human. Exactly this. It's like the utter helmets who think they're quality journalists who sit writing blogs that 4 people read, or writing for crap online media outlets such as that "Here is the city" rubbish. No one cares, you're just recycling the no news that others have said. It's boring. Watched about 20 seconds of this shouty prat and turned it off. Is this what people really sit and watch on the internet?? FFS! Go and kick a ball, paint a fence, get a job, hang around a shop, anything other than waste your life making and/or sitting watching trash on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 21 July, 2015 Share Posted 21 July, 2015 Exactly this. It's like the utter helmets who think they're quality journalists who sit writing blogs that 4 people read, or writing for crap online media outlets such as that "Here is the city" rubbish. No one cares, you're just recycling the no news that others have said. It's boring. Watched about 20 seconds of this shouty prat and turned it off. Is this what people really sit and watch on the internet?? FFS! Go and kick a ball, paint a fence, get a job, hang around a shop, anything other than waste your life making and/or sitting watching trash on the internet. He says, typing away on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 He says, typing away on the internet. I'm not proclaiming to be a journalist, you lemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 Don't see the problem. It's one bloke's opinion. No more valid than yours or mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 Don't see the problem. It's one bloke's opinion. No more valid than yours or mine. With several million views. Does anybody listen to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 The more interesting debate is how the young view the world compared to us oldies. Amazing how so many of then see the world as a much smaller and open place than the oldies and consider living and working abroad as quite normal and are so much more liberal in terms of race, religion, sexuality and the like. One thing is for sure, you can certainly tell the pub bore on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/mikethemechanics/thelivingyears.html Nothing much has changed. We oldies who have reached pension age now, are part of the generation that caused the biggest single upheaval in society in the early sixties and in many ways the youth of today are more-conformist and less rebellious than that generation was. The biggest difference between then and now is purely that in those days the only ones who could make their voices heard were pop singers especially those with a protest message like Bob Dylan, or high profile politicians. Any ordinary individual could only make their voices heard by joining pressure groups and going on marches, or doing something controversial enough to make the newspapers and then giving the reason for taking such actions; a bit like the suffragettes chaining themselves to railings, Bobby Sands going on hunger strike, streaking during a high profile televised match, vandalising the Lords wicket before a cricket international, etc. Now all the yoof have to do to get across their opinions is to post something controversial on Twitter, Facebook, You Tube or some such mass media outlet, pepper it with bad language and before long it's "gone viral" and for a short period of time it is more widely read than the bible and the spotty adolescent will have been World famous (or infamous) for fifteen minutes as everybody would be according to the prediction of Andy Warhol. The difference between that and those protests of the past is that most of them are still remembered by history, whereas these outbursts from the likes of this prat will long be forgotten by the time he has grown up and has gained some life experience, and the perspective that comes with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 22 July, 2015 Share Posted 22 July, 2015 http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/mikethemechanics/thelivingyears.html . Any ordinary individual could only make their voices heard by joining pressure groups and going on marches, or doing something controversial enough to make the newspapers and then giving the reason for taking such actions; a bit like the suffragettes chaining themselves to railings, Bobby Sands going on hunger strike, streaking during a high profile televised match, vandalising the Lords wicket before a cricket international, etc. . I certainly remember Erica Roe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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