david in sweden Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Let's face it, Ronald Koeman has seen a lot of players in his previous clubs (and many Dutch ones, of course), but now plenty of us are going to say .... ...why Ron Vlaar ?..he's already 30 ...and injury-prone. isn't a that a big gamble. Of course we don't know that there is any truth in this " rumour ".. Those two facts are undeniable, but a player of his experience - even with those negatives, might be a valuable signing - on a free transfer and with a view to a possible Euro campaign this season. If we get past Vitesse and get into a group....we'll need real experience later in the season. Lazio seem to have backed down on their interest for Vlaar (according to the Express)... and maybe he doesn't have too many choices left ?. I don't see Vlaar as a 38 game-a-season player, and we do have other options; Yoshida, Gardos, and Turnbull and Stephens knocking on the door. Note: Arsenal, Chelsea and Man U. made no secret of the fact they had different team line-ups for Premier League games and those in European competitions.
Batman Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 A MASSIVE step down in defence compared to last season, in all honesty
ErwinK1961 Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Adam Blackmore said the Vlaar stories were bulls**t last week, can't see that anythings changed. I'm sure the club know how important a quality cb to replace Toby is. May be that we need to be patient on Van Dijk
doddisalegend Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 From the echo an interview with Les Reed http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13421343.Southampton_will_add_numbers_sensibly___Les_Reed/ Below is the bit that I think means we won't be seeing Vlaar (or any other twilight of their career type players) at Saints So I have seen teams who want to supplement their squad going for experienced players, players who’ve played Champions League or Europa League before, but are now in their 30s, thinking ‘Well, that’s alright, because now he’s in his 30s he’s cheaper anyway. We’ve got a top Italian player who’s now within our budget.’ "Actually, they get injured more often and it doesn’t actually do what you intended it to do, so we’ve planned all that quite carefully.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Found this on an Irish website. Ron Vlaar was hot property last summer having had a good World Cup. However, he was never that big of a superstar at Aston Villa and his under-par 2014/15 season only proved that. Vlaar lost the Captain's arm band when Paul Lambert was sacked in February and Tim Sherwood came in to rescue the club's season. But, whilst some of the Villa Park faithful would testify that their centre back was never what the hype and paper talk suggested, even the most cynical wouldn't have expected these sort of stats. Opta stats from Oulala.com show just how ineffective the Netherlands international was last season. He averaged 0.55 tackles per game in the Premier League. That's right: Ron Vlaar was making a tackle every two games for Villa in the league. His stats were that shocking that even Mario Balotelli was winning more tackles per game. Raheem Sterling too. Vlaar is now a free agent, his contract having expired, but, with form like this, he might not have a crowd of clubs lining up for his signature
EBS1980 Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Hopefully allowing theVlaar rumours to mask who we actually are after
Saint Charlie Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 He is injured and won't play for 3/4 months after surgery. Plus Reed already said we aren't in for him. http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/vlaar-veel-langer-aan-de-kant-dan-verwacht.htm?channel=phone
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Hopefully allowing theVlaar rumours to mask who we actually are after Exactly this and/or a "look we don't need to sign your player, we have other options" type of game.
trousers Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Out until 2016 according to the font of knowledge that is the Daily Mirror... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/former-aston-villa-defender-ron-6096251
wild-saint Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Out until 2016 according to the font of knowledge that is the Daily Mirror... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/former-aston-villa-defender-ron-6096251 confirmed by vlarr himself on twitter
Window Cleaner Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Out until he's at least fit and then gets a club actually. Difficult situation for him. Still being an out of contract player might get him a sudden contract when some club or other finds themself struggling between transfer windows. If not.. MLS
Batman Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 confirmed by vlarr himself on twitter Be worth a free with a first choice target.
Block34 Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Twitter..... Simon Peach @SimonPeach 1h1 hour ago Told yesterday renewed reports of Vlaar to #SaintsFC were wide of the mark - guessing the four months out injured may have played a part.
alpine_saint Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Bring hm in next year for nothing, on some nominal contract until he proves himself.
Sour Mash Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 An example of a player losing out from letting his contract run down?
Saint Charlie Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 http://www.khalidzerrou.com/ron-vlaar-english/ Ron in his own words.
david in sweden Posted 19 July, 2015 Author Posted 19 July, 2015 He is injured and won't play for 3/4 months after surgery. Plus Reed already said we aren't in for him. http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/vlaar-veel-langer-aan-de-kant-dan-verwacht.htm?channel=phone -which just about puts that rumour to bed. MODS - can close this thread now!
The9 Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Found this on an Irish website. Ron Vlaar was hot property last summer having had a good World Cup. However, he was never that big of a superstar at Aston Villa and his under-par 2014/15 season only proved that. Vlaar lost the Captain's arm band when Paul Lambert was sacked in February and Tim Sherwood came in to rescue the club's season. But, whilst some of the Villa Park faithful would testify that their centre back was never what the hype and paper talk suggested, even the most cynical wouldn't have expected these sort of stats. Opta stats from Oulala.com show just how ineffective the Netherlands international was last season. He averaged 0.55 tackles per game in the Premier League. That's right: Ron Vlaar was making a tackle every two games for Villa in the league. His stats were that shocking that even Mario Balotelli was winning more tackles per game. Raheem Sterling too. Vlaar is now a free agent, his contract having expired, but, with form like this, he might not have a crowd of clubs lining up for his signature If you're going to post this useless piece of crap passing for analysis everywhere I'll have to point out it's a useless piece of crap passing for analysis, everywhere. . “The person with the most tackles means nothing. “We’re after clever defenders who intercept and have the right starting positions. They maximise their efficiency by not running around the pitch trying to lunge in and tackle everyone, but by trying to just intercept key passes because they’re keeping in shape.” - See more at: http://www.information-age.com/it-management/strategy-and-innovation/123458305/how-bolton-wanderers-are-revolutionising-use-data-analysis-football-win-back-their-premier-league#sthash.EcQFvfSu.dpuf
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 If you're going to post this useless piece of crap passing for analysis everywhere I'll have to point out it's a useless piece of crap passing for analysis, everywhere. - See more at: http://www.information-age.com/it-management/strategy-and-innovation/123458305/how-bolton-wanderers-are-revolutionising-use-data-analysis-football-win-back-their-premier-league#sthash.EcQFvfSu.dpuf This is a forum, a place for conversation. Seeing as people were talking about Ron Vlaar it seemed topical. I'm not claiming that it's a great piece of journalism, it's just topical and may have been of interest to some people. Sorry, I wasn't aware that things had to meet with your seal of approval before being posted.
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