Saint Charlie Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 If it was a done deal he wouldn't be able to play for Celtic Thats why I said "virtual" done deal. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Chris Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I suspect there may be a deal in place but Celtic want him to be available for both legs of the champions league qualifiers with the transfer going through after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Thats why I said "virtual" done deal. :-) I'm currently sitting in my virtual yacht in the middle of a virtual Caribbean Sea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I suspect there may be a deal in place but Celtic want him to be available for both legs of the champions league qualifiers with the transfer going through after that. In which he suffers a season ending injury.....we have no back up......and we are screwed. Sod's law something like that happens..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I suspect there may be a deal in place but Celtic want him to be available for both legs of the champions league qualifiers with the transfer going through after that. That's not playing the game. Everyone knows that the player concerned picks up an injury and cant play in any games just before the transfer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm yet to be convinced ,yes I know he's only just joined etc,Clasie will cut the mustard.......let's hope he comes up to speed and not regularly on the treatment table. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He has played 30 plus games in the last five seasons, that doesn't suggest he is always injured. The physio said the other week moving clubs is a time when players pick up these strains. So I don't think you have to worry about his resilience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 09:39 SAINTS ON BRINK OF VAN DIJK DEAL Southampton are hopeful of landing Celtic defender Virgil van Dijk even if Ronny Deila’s side reach the Champions League Group stage, writes the Daily Record. The report suggests Ronald Koeman is on the brink of securing a £10m deal for the defender and he hopes the deal will be completed before the September 1. "hopes"? Hardly on the brink then. We are playing a cool hand but they hold the aces. Didnt he "hope"....nay....."expect" Toby to sign for us, even after the Spurs stories emerged ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Didnt he "hope"....nay....."expect" Toby to sign for us, even after the Spurs stories emerged ? He did - someone sack the w*nker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Didnt he "hope"....nay....."expect" Toby to sign for us, even after the Spurs stories emerged ? He did say that, although I suspect it was as much to do with making our position clear for the future legal wranglings as it was a genuine belief. I'm sure by that point he knew we were struggling really, just had to keep up appearances of "yes, of course he will sign for us, we have a clause" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 He did say that, although I suspect it was as much to do with making our position clear for the future legal wranglings as it was a genuine belief. I'm sure by that point he knew we were struggling really, just had to keep up appearances of "yes, of course he will sign for us, we have a clause" etc. Lets hope that the the latest news articles are not further PR..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Didnt he "hope"....nay....."expect" Toby to sign for us, even after the Spurs stories emerged ? Perhaps, just perhaps, at that point he still thought that Toby would sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 11:22 CELTIC HOPE TO KEEP VAN DIJK Southampton are interested indefender Virgil van Dijk and we understand the deal depends on whether Celtic get Champions League football. The SPFL side think they have a much better change of keeping him if he remains in remain in the Champions League - they face Malmo for a place in the group stage next week. We'll be hearing from Celtic boss Ronny Deila after their match against Kilmarnock tonight. --------------------- So is it the player's decision? Is it coming down to what each club can offer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Despite the suggestion RK is not looking at alternatives to VVD, I hope Reed & the Black Box are still casting their net for a CB in case VVD does decide to stay at Celtic, or has an injury of the 89th minute Second Leg v Malmo. There may of course been an agreement behind the scenes, but then Toby was believed to have given his word he'd stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Despite the suggestion RK is not looking at alternatives to VVD, I hope Reed & the Black Box are still casting their net for a CB in case VVD does decide to stay at Celtic, or has an injury of the 89th minute Second Leg v Malmo. There may of course been an agreement behind the scenes, but then Toby was believed to have given his word he'd stay. Yep. 2nd leg against Malmo is on 25 Aug. That leaves us less than a week to identify and sign someone else if VVD gets carried away with the euphoria of the moment if Celtic overcome Malmo. Extremely risky strategy in place, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Yep. 2nd leg against Malmo is on 25 Aug. That leaves us less than a week to identify and sign someone else if VVD gets carried away with the euphoria of the moment if Celtic overcome Malmo. Extremely risky strategy in place, it seems. Because there is no way we will be tracking more than one player, is there? No, if we don't get VVD, we will be starting a search from scratch! Like amateurs! I'M FLABBERGASTED!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm led to believe this deal is now at an advanced stage, just need to iron out the finer points of the deal with Celtic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm led to believe this deal is now at an advanced stage, just need to iron out the finer points of the deal with Celtic Last time I lumped on a transfer was when we signed Osvaldo - if I did the same here will I be a happy man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I don't believe for one minute that the club expect to go into this season with just three recognised CHs. Just because we aren't being splashed all over the media doesn't mean that work isn't being done behind the scenes. Still what do I know? Perhaps Alpine is right and we are being run like a second rate seaside B & B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Yep. 2nd leg against Malmo is on 25 Aug. That leaves us less than a week to identify and sign someone else if VVD gets carried away with the euphoria of the moment if Celtic overcome Malmo. Extremely risky strategy in place, it seems. Although I think our scouting has proved time and time again that there isn't just one target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm led to believe this deal is now at an advanced stage, just need to iron out the finer points of the deal with Celtic Any idea if this is likely to be before Celtic's qualifier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Steve Grant @SteveGrant1983 Led to believe van Dijk passed a medical at #saintsfc this morning, just the transfer terms to iron out with Celtic This advanced...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbendy Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Steve Grant @SteveGrant1983 Led to believe van Dijk passed a medical at #saintsfc this morning, just the transfer terms to iron out with Celtic This advanced...? What's your source, Steve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 What's your source, Steve? His own twitter feed, by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 I'm led to believe this deal is now at an advanced stage, just need to iron out the finer points of the deal with Celtic Holy sh*t! Awesome if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 ITK scoops from Steve are very rare, so this looks very positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 ITK scoops from Steve are very rare, so this looks very positive. Excellent news. I reckon we upped the offer a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 And they will beat Malmoe - Swedish teams are not very good - OK Malmoe beat Saltzburg last round but Celtic are harder to beat I guess. So this should be wrapped up soon otherwise we will sit here pressing F5 on deadline day as usual.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Steve Grant @SteveGrant1983 Led to believe van Dijk passed a medical at #saintsfc this morning, just the transfer terms to iron out with Celtic This advanced...? It's seemingly the modern way but it does seem odd that you first agree terms with the player and then negotiate the fee with their club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Time to do this a sticky soon then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Malmo are no mugs, they've knocked Salzburg out of the Champions League in both of the last two seasons. I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Celtic try to stall the deal until the end of the month, but the Forster deal was done a year ago after the third qualifying round and they still got through, so there's a precedent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 It's seemingly the modern way but it does seem odd that you first agree terms with the player and then negotiate the fee with their club! Yeah, it's a bit weird how it's all changed, but I guess it makes more sense doing it this way. There's no point putting in the effort to negotiate with a club if the player's got no interest in signing for you, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Sorry for being slow but if he had a medical and all that - Saints need OK from Celtic right to do that - otherwise it´s more like Arrys way of doing transfers rihgt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Sorry for being slow but if he had a medical and all that - Saints need OK from Celtic right to do that - otherwise it´s more like Arrys way of doing transfers rihgt? Perhaps RK will start doing interviews from the window of his Range Rover outside his house from now on as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So, after lunch I am going to start moaning-a-f*ck about how its taking Krychowiak so long to sign for us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Be interesting to see whether he plays for Celtic tonight against Kilmarnock. If a deal is close then you'd have thought he wouldn't be risked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Sorry for being slow but if he had a medical and all that - Saints need OK from Celtic right to do that - otherwise it´s more like Arrys way of doing transfers rihgt? Yes. My interpretation of events is that Celtic gave us permission to do whatever we need to do, i.e. discuss personal terms and conduct a medical, subject to agreeing terms between the clubs. He'll remain available for selection for them until it's all tied up, though, and as I said, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them stall it until after the playoff round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 So, after lunch I am going to start moaning-a-f*ck about how its taking Krychowiak so long to sign for us.... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Yes. My interpretation of events is that Celtic gave us permission to do whatever we need to do, i.e. discuss personal terms and conduct a medical, subject to agreeing terms between the clubs. He'll remain available for selection for them until it's all tied up, though, and as I said, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them stall it until after the playoff round. Surely he'd need another medical then, to check nothing had changed since the first one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Surely he'd need another medical then, to check nothing had changed since the first one? Only if he picks up an injury that has the potential to affect his body long-term after recovery. Medicals are 95% nothing to do with injury status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Pete Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Seems to me this doesn't necessarily mean it's deal done, as in theory, they could also allow other clubs to do a medical and talk to the player pending a deal being agreed by the clubs (possibly after Champs league tie)? What it would confirm though is Celtic are at least open to selling VVD - don't think they would allow this if they were not pretty committed to selling him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Maybe we should 'de-risk' the transaction by tabling a two-tier bid. Say, £500k over the asking price for an 'immediate' transfer. Enough to maybe tempt Celtic to put pen to paper straight away, but not an extortionate amount from our perspective in the general scheme of things. Dunno. Just thinking out loud, as ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 if indeed VvD has had a medical here this morning..he will not be playing for Celtic tonight due to travelling...Celtic fans will be up in arms wanting an explanation why he's not in the squad for the game tonight !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 (edited) So, after lunch I am going to start moaning-a-f*ck about how its taking Krychowiak so long to sign for us.... Out of interest... how long is your lunch?? Edited 12 August, 2015 by notnowcato Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marching Halos Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 double signing today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Yeah, it's a bit weird how it's all changed, but I guess it makes more sense doing it this way. There's no point putting in the effort to negotiate with a club if the player's got no interest in signing for you, after all. Try telling Stoke that. Still not convinced XS (**** spelling his name) wants to be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Is the VVD medical revelation been confused and it was actually Romeu's medical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Out of interest... how long is our lunch?? We have shifts. Those with surnames starting A to L have lunch from 12 to 1 and M to Z from 1 to 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Maybe we should 'de-risk' the transaction by tabling a two-tier bid. Say, £500k over the asking price for an 'immediate' transfer. Enough to maybe tempt Celtic to put pen to paper straight away, but not an extortionate amount from our perspective in the general scheme of things. Dunno. Just thinking out loud, as ever. I somehow don't think 500k will tempt them to risk losing millions and millions they will receive for getting into the CL group stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isla Wight Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 double signing today? A new I T K 'er ? Or someone just reading the posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 12 August, 2015 Share Posted 12 August, 2015 Malmo are no mugs, they've knocked Salzburg out of the Champions League in both of the last two seasons. I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Celtic try to stall the deal until the end of the month, but the Forster deal was done a year ago after the third qualifying round and they still got through, so there's a precedent there. Forster signing for Saints and Celtic being reinstated to the Champions League happened on the same day. Perhaps the Forster deal was too far advanced by the point they knew they were definetly still in the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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