Appy Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 If we buy Clasie, we'd also be after another CM? As with Wanyama out injured or suspended, that leaves us very lightweight in midfield. Agreed, seems with the money being banded about for him we'd have a bit left over.
SO16_Saint Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Don't forget the sleeve tattoo. [emoji106] Good point well made
Andy Durman Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 (edited) MYou'd be right if the third central midfielder in our system was an out-and-out attacker, but Davis and JWP both play as 'water-carriers' in the Deschamps mould, rather than as number 10s, contributing a lot more to pressing/harrying in the middle and defensive thirds than they do to creating/scoring up front (yes, JWP's 6 assists are promising, but no, they don't disprove my point). Surely you can also accept that our 6th place goalscoring record was rather burnished by two very large home wins against defensively frail opposition, which have contrived to disguise our less-than-stellar back-end to the season, when, for example, we managed a solitary goal in five league games during February? I didn't bother replying because I find it pointless. Everyone on here is a trainer/manager/tactical genius. Edited 12 July, 2015 by Andy Durman
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Chris Young @YoungSunEcho 9h9 hours ago Jordy Clasie on his way to Southampton. However, like van Ginkel, told Advocaat is looking for a more attack-minded centre-mid #safc
Saint IQ Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 This must be a Saints Web record that we've been linked with Clasie for a year and this is actually the 1st solo thread on him! Someone surely made one it just hasn't got much attention?
Appy Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Chris Young @YoungSunEcho 9h9 hours ago Jordy Clasie on his way to Southampton. However, like van Ginkel, told Advocaat is looking for a more attack-minded centre-mid #safc I bet he's gutted Sunderland don't want him.
colman1860 Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 I'm guessing the sale of Morgan pretty much confirms this, right?
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 I'm guessing the sale of Morgan pretty much confirms this, right? Looks like we've had a bit of a domino effect today. Morgan is done and dusted, and I suspect this is as well.
SuperSAINT Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Someone surely made one it just hasn't got much attention? I checked. Must be a record.
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Good source: ROME - The Southampton surpasses Lazio and approaching the purchase of Jordy Clasie: the English club made an offer of nine million pounds for the midfielder and Dutch Feyenoord seems oriented to accept it.The negotiations were conducted by Ronald Koeman, who is the coach of Southampton and has worked in the past also at Feyenoord, playing a decisive role in the growth of Clasie, twenty-four, 155 appearances and 8 goals in the Eredivisie. Lazio had informed on the price of the median-director, but in the last hours the Southampton has gained a position of absolute advantage. Koeman chose Clasie to replace French Morgan Schneiderlin, who is one step away from the transfer to Manchester United. Feyenoord, coached this year by Giovanni Van Bronckhorst, has decided not to deploy Clasie in the friendly with Fortuna Dusseldorf: another signal related to the breakthrough in talks with the Southampton. http://m.corrieredellosport.it/notizia/calcio/calcio-mercato/2015/07/12-2385353/clasie_il_southampton_ha_sorpassato_la_lazio?cookieAccept
Rebel Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 If we buy Clasie, we'd also be after another CM? As with Wanyama out injured or suspended, that leaves us very lightweight in midfield. If Clasie is Morgan's replacement we still need somone to replace Cork. We can't rely on Davis and Ward-Prowse to provide defensive cover - and with Reed and Clasie being so small we will need someone a bit more physical to provide cover for Victor Maybe we will go back in for Marco Benassi from Torino - he looked very good at the U21 tournament - and at 6ft could be what we need - Young though at just 20.
S-Clarke Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 If Clasie is Morgan's replacement we still need somone to replace Cork. We can't rely on Davis and Ward-Prowse to provide defensive cover - and with Reed and Clasie being so small we will need someone a bit more physical to provide cover for Victor Maybe we will go back in for Marco Benassi from Torino - he looked very good at the U21 tournament - and at 6ft could be what we need - Young though at just 20. Young, international pedigree, coaching potential, massive sell-on potential. Ticks all our boxes!
Redslo Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Good source: http://m.corrieredellosport.it/notizia/calcio/calcio-mercato/2015/07/12-2385353/clasie_il_southampton_ha_sorpassato_la_lazio?cookieAccept Could Koeman actually be conducting the negotiations? That is Reed's job.
CB Fry Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Could Koeman actually be conducting the negotiations? That is Reed's job. Obviously he isn't but he has more than likely spoken to the player. When Brendan Rodgers does it it's called tapping up.
niceandfriendly Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 He certainly looks the right clasie of player we should be going for. His vision looks top clasie in fact. Those long balls over the top down the middle for Madio Sane and Jay Rod to chase will be fun.
shurlock Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Some lovely weight and vision on those balls. Morgan's passing, for all its range, tended to be quite one-paced. He didn't slow and speed things up as some can. Will be interesting to see if Clasie can orchestrate things as well as he did in Holland, with the likes of jonathan walters bearing down on him.
Bad Wolf Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Apparently Clasie ISN'T Morgan's replacement and we're still looking to sign another midfielder as such. I saw a lot of him in the WC but haven't seen him play since then. I must say he looked great during that WC, massive potential.
simo Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Apparently Clasie ISN'T Morgan's replacement and we're still looking to sign another midfielder as such. I saw a lot of him in the WC but haven't seen him play since then. I must say he looked great during that WC, massive potential. According to ?
mulletsaint Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 If Clasie is Morgan's replacement we still need somone to replace Cork. We can't rely on Davis and Ward-Prowse to provide defensive cover - and with Reed and Clasie being so small we will need someone a bit more physical to provide cover for Victor Maybe we will go back in for Marco Benassi from Torino - he looked very good at the U21 tournament - and at 6ft could be what we need - Young though at just 20. I'm not so sure. Can't imagine we'll want to block Reed's path to the first team.
St Chalet Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Could Koeman actually be conducting the negotiations? That is Reed's job. In this circumstance it could work better with Koeman. I am sure the Feyenoord / Clasie reps would be more impressed by Dutch legend Koeman than Reed / Wilson.
Saint Charlie Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 VI say he expects to sign a 4 year contract on Tuesday and will earn about €2m a year.
Saint Charlie Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 In this circumstance it could work better with Koeman. I am sure the Feyenoord / Clasie reps would be more impressed by Dutch legend Koeman than Reed / Wilson. The financial negotiations will be led by Reed.
DT Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Will he play for us against Feyenoord? Or maybe one half each? Hope we get Van Dijk next, followed by a good DM
wanyamaisatank Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 A fully fit team Forster Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. New Dm Jay Rod. Pelle. Mane looks very good
benjii Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 A fully fit team Forster Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. New Dm Jay Rod. Pelle. Mane looks very good How many defensive midfielders do you want? Lose your third mystery man and stick Juanmi or Tadic in there!
DT Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 How many defensive midfielders do you want? Lose your third mystery man and stick Juanmi or Tadic in there! Tadic. Defending. Never in the same sentence. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Convict Colony Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 VI say he expects to sign a 4 year contract on Tuesday and will earn about €2m a year. Seems a bit low, roughly about 27.5k a week, would of thought he'd come in on at least 35-40k which is what Tadic was rumoured to be on.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Seems a bit low, roughly about 27.5k a week, would of thought he'd come in on at least 35-40k which is what Tadic was rumoured to be on. Seems very low considering the calibre of teams reported to be interested in him.
Convict Colony Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Article in todays Algemeen Dagblad which seems to have good Feyenoord links - http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/5619/Feyenoord/article/detail/4099830/2015/07/13/Fans-luiden-Clasie-al-uit.dhtml "The supporters of Feyenoord sang him yesterday in Austria once again increased loudly. Jordy Clasie is about to move to Southampton and then came the 'Jordy thanks' from the stands. The captain leaves at Feyenoord and will provide the Rotterdam reportedly about twelve million. Clasie in the Netherlands on a different level. I assume that he will leave the club obviously has not left him for nothing out of the selection against Fortuna Dusseldorf. Jordy Clasie trudged in the sweltering Kufstein towards the dressing room and supporters shouted once he or she wanted to go with the picture. For the supporters of the Rotterdam was there yesterday in Austria, no doubt, the crowd favorite attracts a very short time the door behind him in the cockpit. Then yesterday leaked Feyenoord player kept on the side for the friendly against Fortuna Düsseldorf no unreasonable risks to run, it suddenly was a madhouse around the player. Interested clubs who initially wanted to just watch from the sidelines, appeared on the scene to inquire about the player. Only they all come too late, look for Clasie would prefer to work again under the wing of Ronald Koeman. Hunt Martin van Geel is hopeful to get around twelve million euros for the player, where suddenly from all sides hunted on . Clasie knows he this week at a stroke his young family can provide a carefree financial future, and furthermore he moves then to the world so incensed Premier League. On the advice of coach Giovanni van Bronckhorst Feyenoord showed itself yesterday via Twitter early to know why in Clasie Seefeld a morning workout based finished with seven other players who would not take action against Fortuna Dusseldorf. ,, Yes, there is concrete interest. I did not want to have to turn around it, '' Van Bronckhorst said later in Kufstein. ,, Jordy came to me and he said he would rather not play. He is not gone yet, but chances are very high that leaves Jordy. " Southampton believes in the opinion of coach Ronald Koeman including Clasie became the best player of Feyenoord. The club would be willing to make an amount around twelve million to Rotterdam. Teammate Karim El Ahmadi thinks he is double that money well spent. ,, Clasie is another level of Netherlands, '' said El Ahmadi.
mulletsaint Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 A fully fit team Forster Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. New Dm Jay Rod. Pelle. Mane looks very good Personally if we're going to play Wanyama and Clasie in a three with another DM I'd like to see Reed get more game time. with both Wanyama and Clasie you could use someone in there like JWP who's not so physical.
Batman Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 I am very excited by this get the man on the plane ffs
doddisalegend Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 A fully fit team Forster Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. New Dm Jay Rod. Pelle. Mane looks very good Is Classie not a deep laying midfielder? I'd like to see trying out juanmi in front of Classie and victor with a front three of long, Jrod and mane pace to burn on the front 4 there.
Batman Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 vic is good for missing a few games a season. bound to miss a few with injuries and most definitely, via a couple of suspensions
Saint Garrett Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Sure JWP will play more this season, be interesting to see where. I'd be tempted to play Forster Cedric Fonte New Bertrand ---------Wanyama -------JWP-----Clasie Mane-----------------Juanmi -----------JRod----- Pace and power, leaving Tadic, Pelle, Reed, Davis, Long all fighting for a place in the first team.
Pilchards Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 A fully fit team Forster Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. New Dm Jay Rod. Pelle. Mane looks very good Blimey we have gone from playing loads of English men to going almost half Dutch, And that is why the English national team is crap.
beatlesaint Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Sure JWP will play more this season, be interesting to see where. Im not so sure he will but if he does he needs to be a lot better than he was for long spells last season. In fairness to him I'm not sure how all these England tournaments he seems to be involved in during the summer months help him. I would have preferred he had a summer off and see how he gets on with a rest behind him.
Convict Colony Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Based on 2 current rumours my potential 11 for the 1st game. Steklenberg Cedric Fonte. Van Djik. Bertrand Wanyama. Classie. Juanmi Mane Pelle JRod
Daft Kerplunk Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Blimey we have gone from playing loads of English men to going almost half Dutch, And that is why the English national team is crap. Pretty sure there are more English players in that eleven than Dutch
Daft Kerplunk Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 I expect Reed and JWP will feature more this season, surely that's part of the plan?
ecuk268 Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 ....the crowd favorite attracts a very short time the door behind him in the cockpit. If this is true then sign him up ASAP.
mulletsaint Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 I expect Reed and JWP will feature more this season, surely that's part of the plan? You'd thinks so. That's why I don't think we're going to be buying some of the extra players people are hoping for.
Pilchards Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Pretty sure there are more English players in that eleven than Dutch Yeah true, I thought it was the other goalie in the selected team.
Dig Dig Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Blimey we have gone from playing loads of English men to going almost half Dutch, And that is why the English national team is crap. Those Englishmen still exist and have a better chance of having a longer England career elsewhere.
Dan Johnson Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Remember being massively impressed with Clasie during the world cup, who would have thought when we were in the never regions of league 1 we would be signing a player of this quaility! Really excited by this transfer!!
Dan Johnson Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 Remember being massively impressed with Clasie during the world cup, who would have thought when we were in the never regions of league 1 we would be signing a player of this quaility! Really excited by this transfer!!
doddisalegend Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 What I took from that video is we should have bought RVP to go with Classie?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 13 July, 2015 Posted 13 July, 2015 I am very excited by this get the man on the plane ffs How long before you call him GASH?
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