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Clyne to Liverpool, Toby to Poch, Spider to Man U. And the rest.

Liverpool and Spurs to make stadia into 60000.

Stuck at 32000 on industrial estate.

We just can't compete.

But its great to get so close!!

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Clyne to Liverpool, Toby to Poch, Spider to Man U. And the rest.

Liverpool and Spurs to make stadia into 60000.

Stuck at 32000 on industrial estate.

We just can't compete.

But its great to get so close!!

 

Sh!t. You're right.

 

What to do?

 

There's Liverpool to support - bit far but there will be a lot of recognisable faces in the squad. Don't like Brenda though, and the fans speak a funny language, and I would stick out a bit. (Always find it funny when Liverpool fans phone in, like the one yeasterday, who had a broad Dorset accent).

 

Manchester - well City seems more for the locals, so Utd is an option. Big stadium. Morgan likely to be there. Big club. The biggest in the country. Can phone in radio stations with a non-Manchester accent and blend in much more easily than the Liverpool situation.

 

Arsenal - now that there is a definite option. 3 ex Saints. They play in red and white. Nice stadium. Much more civilised than Spurs.

 

Chelsea - easy to get to, until they move out. But Chelsea is full of people from Surrey and Kent, and I just don't like them. Naff spivs. Arsenal are preferable.

 

 

So it's a toss up between Arsenal and Man Utd. Maybe I can have one as my favourite and one as my 2nd favourite.

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As long as Saints are "forced" to continually sell their best players football history informs that the top 6 will remain a dream, and though dreams do come true, the bottom 6 is far more realistic. FFP was, so many of us "hoped", implemented to rein in the run away rich clubs, who after all were running their clubs on blatantly false economies. Now of course the FFP has been ameliorated to re-accommodate the rich clubs, shades of FIFA in EUFA? Probably.

 

If Saints had been able to hold onto the likes of Lallana, Toby, Shaw, Lovren, Clyne, Lambert, Chambers, Bale, Walcott, Morgan etc etc and added to them as they have in the past, we'd be talking about will Saints win the ECL? And how good would such a clean breath of fresh air have been for football?

 

Still you gotta have dream if you don't have dream how you gonna have dream come true? Or something like that.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33109008

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I say we just keep doing it our way, have a bit of fun a long the way. Every now and then we'll surprise everyone, and maybe one time we'll get lucky and break in. We're not going to get there through spending zillions though, if we do it will be via our own patient way.

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I thought we did compete for top 6 last year? We certainly seemed to believe a champions league place wasn't an impossible dream for more than half a season. Define competing?

 

 

Far too many trolls

or maybe they are just thick

please go to Liverpool.

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If we had had a deeper squad last season who knows what would have happened. If we had had a bit more luck through injuries and suspensions. If. If. If. We came close no doubt about that but to sustain that challenge we need to spend more and that is the problem with all clubs our size. Do you go for it and put the club at financial risk or do you go for sustainable growth. We have chosen the latter option which means more frustration in terms of competing but, hopefully, it also means no more shenanigans like a few years ago. It is gutting to miss out on the likes of Toby but if it means living within our means and no more trips to the lower divisions then I can live with that.

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Clyne to Liverpool, Toby to Poch, Spider to Man U. And the rest.

Liverpool and Spurs to make stadia into 60000.

Stuck at 32000 on industrial estate.

We just can't compete.

But its great to get so close!!

 

When are starting supporting the Saints over 50 years ago in Div 3 I never thought they would be one of the top ten clubs in the country

 

So I am very happy

 

With so much money in the PL and high player wages we will never compete regularly with the top City Clubs

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Damn, I just wish that

The season would fecken start

I'm bored of this shiz

 

Totally agree the close season just brings out the Muppets ad with no football going on to drown out their incessant nonsense it all gets a bit much.

 

We are a good club with good players punching a bit above our weight we will never be Liverpool/Spurs we could build a 60'000 seat stadium but we'd never fill it except maybe when the big 4 come to town we just simply don't have the fan base. The only thing that could ever move us to the next level is a sugar daddy or an incredibly lucky class of '92 moment from the academy. Until then I'll carry on supporting the saints as we are, for so many years of my life we have been relegation fodder I never thought I'd see us challenging at the top of the table if we could add a cup (or two) this would easily be the most successful period in the clubs history and would leave me happy for along time if we returned to the other end of the league.

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Totally agree the close season just brings out the Muppets ad with no football going on to drown out their incessant nonsense it all gets a bit much.

 

We are a good club with good players punching a bit above our weight we will never be Liverpool/Spurs we could build a 60'000 seat stadium but we'd never fill it except maybe when the big 4 come to town we just simply don't have the fan base. The only thing that could ever move us to the next level is a sugar daddy or an incredibly lucky class of '92 moment from the academy. Until then I'll carry on supporting the saints as we are, for so many years of my life we have been relegation fodder I never thought I'd see us challenging at the top of the table if we could add a cup (or two) this would easily be the most successful period in the clubs history and would leave me happy for along time if we returned to the other end of the league.

 

The glass is half empty.

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Clyne to Liverpool, Toby to Poch, Spider to Man U. And the rest.

Liverpool and Spurs to make stadia into 60000.

Stuck at 32000 on industrial estate.

We just can't compete.

But its great to get so close!!

 

If we wanted to build a 60,000 stadium I hardly think we'd have a problem on the current site. Plus Liverpool have been trying to do that since before we built St Mary's.

 

Also, those extra 30,000 are nice, but they're not a patch on the millions of shirt-buyers globally, it's there where they've got the biggest advantage.

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Clyne to Liverpool, Toby to Poch, Spider to Man U. And the rest.

Liverpool and Spurs to make stadia into 60000.

Stuck at 32000 on industrial estate.

We just can't compete.

But its great to get so close!!

 

For what it's worth, I agree with you. It was fun to mix it with the big boys for a season though. I have no regrets. We go back to our main challenge to stay on top of the Stokes and Swanseas of the world now.

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Mind you, six years ago who would have thought that it was the Stokes, Swanseas and Crystal Palaces that would be up with us challenging for Europa places and not the 'massive' clubs like Newcastle, Leeds, Villa, Wolves etc. And with 'tiny' Bournemouth in the Premier league - it all just must be a dream.

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Pretty sure being in the top for 90% of the season and finishing 7th would be considered competing for the top 6. Stadium size is irrelevant, our academy more then makes up for the difference in attendance.

 

I'd love to know £ for £ how much difference an extra 30K seats really makes when, I suspect, gate revenue is just a small part of the picture compared to the TV funding.

Yes, you probably make more if you've got commercial properties and facilities that make it a seven day a week venue, but seats alone are probably not that important.

 

Personally I'd stick to our 30K and in 5 years time we'll be live streaming matches to VR headsets. Next thing you'll know you'll be sitting next to Remi from France, Maketi from Nigeria and Lee from Korea.

 

For example:

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/16/8224643/birth-live-streamed-samsung-gear-vr

 

In fact, with our farsighted media team we should be doing this now. Remember we were the first club IN THE WORLD with a twitter #tag on our stadium seats FFS!

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As long as Saints are "forced" to continually sell their best players football history informs that the top 6 will remain a dream, and though dreams do come true, the bottom 6 is far more realistic. FFP was, so many of us "hoped", implemented to rein in the run away rich clubs, who after all were running their clubs on blatantly false economies. Now of course the FFP has been ameliorated to re-accommodate the rich clubs, shades of FIFA in EUFA? Probably.

 

If Saints had been able to hold onto the likes of Lallana, Toby, Shaw, Lovren, Clyne, Lambert, Chambers, Bale, Walcott, Morgan etc etc and added to them as they have in the past, we'd be talking about will Saints win the ECL? And how good would such a clean breath of fresh air have been for football?

 

Still you gotta have dream if you don't have dream how you gonna have dream come true? Or something like that.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33109008

 

Ahh, yes, I recognise that: it's "Happy-Clappy Talk".

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I'd love to know £ for £ how much difference an extra 30K seats really makes when, I suspect, gate revenue is just a small part of the picture compared to the TV funding.

Yes, you probably make more if you've got commercial properties and facilities that make it a seven day a week venue, but seats alone are probably not that important.

 

Personally I'd stick to our 30K and in 5 years time we'll be live streaming matches to VR headsets. Next thing you'll know you'll be sitting next to Remi from France, Maketi from Nigeria and Lee from Korea.

 

For example:

 

http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/16/8224643/birth-live-streamed-samsung-gear-vr

 

In fact, with our farsighted media team we should be doing this now. Remember we were the first club IN THE WORLD with a twitter #tag on our stadium seats FFS!

 

It may not be so much how financially rewarding it is per se, all very nice and welcome and in the millions for a major club over a season but the caveat is it remains a statement to how BIG and ambitious a club is and where it is headed. You're 18 and a really hot prospect a few clubs are clamouring for your signature you visit say the Saints, Real, Bayern and are shown around, away from all else the stadium and facilities do their own talking. They are impactive on the psyche telling so much. I remember so very vividly visiting the Camp Nou and what an indelible impression that made, you know you are at one of the world's biggest clubs in fact while there you feel you are at thee world's biggest club.

 

Football without its match going fans and fanatical support is hard to imagine :D

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It may not be so much how financially rewarding it is per se, all very nice and welcome and in the millions for a major club over a season but the caveat is it remains a statement to how BIG and ambitious a club is and where it is headed. You're 18 and a really hot prospect a few clubs are clamouring for your signature you visit say the Saints, Real, Bayern and are shown around, away from all else the stadium and facilities do their own talking. They are impactive on the psyche telling so much. I remember so very vividly visiting the Camp Nou and what an indelible impression that made, you know you are at one of the world's biggest clubs in fact while there you feel you are at thee world's biggest club.

 

Football without its match going fans and fanatical support is hard to imagine :D

 

The players will all be wearing VR glasses too so they will see massive stadiums full of fanatical supporters.

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The players will all be wearing VR glasses too so they will see massive stadiums full of fanatical supporters.

 

Yes I understand that, however, can you see football being and remaining what it is, without match going fans? The great Jock Stein, "Without match going fans football is nothing" What would most "working class" do with their Saturday afternoons? I mean we could get rid of ACTUAL clubs altogether and make it a total cyber experience with "created" winners losers and transfers the whole works, even making it a participatory internet experience, hang on a minute . . . . . . . .

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