Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Silly question I know but if jan was such a sucess in holland why didn't he bring some of his players over? surely they would have been good enough and also they would be cheap like Jan and we know how Lowe likes cheap
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 He did, he signed Arjen Robben from Derby. is that fantasy slang for Lee Holmes?
Andy_Porter Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 is that fantasy slang for Lee Holmes? Yes..
ericofarabia Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Unfortunately the standard at the level of football he was coaching at in CloggyLand was probably about par with Eastleigh Reserves :cool:
scott_saints Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Probably because the standard of players he was coaching over there were of a similar to level to Eastleigh players. EDIT- It seems someone agrees with me!!
Mole Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Jan is just the coach. He's admitted not even seeing our signings play before Lowe signs them so he has no input in transfers. I believe SFC is run with an "old school tie" selectors philospy (like the England cricket team) with Lowe and Wotte deciding who they want to sign and who they want to be picked for the team. Jan just does as he's told like the yes man he is.
saint63 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Jan is just the coach. He's admitted not even seeing our signings play before Lowe signs them so he has no input in transfers. I believe SFC is run with an "old school tie" selectors philospy (like the England cricket team) with Lowe and Wotte deciding who they want to sign and who they want to be picked for the team. Jan just does as he's told like the yes man he is. The England Cricket team is a much more professional oufit than our shambles!!
Chez Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I'm amazed there wasn't at least one out of contract Dutch player we could have picked up based on a recommendation from JP.
um pahars Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Silly question I know but if jan was such a sucess in holland why didn't he bring some of his players over? surely they would have been good enough and also they would be cheap like Jan and we know how Lowe likes cheap And therein lies the problem. he was no success in Holland.
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 Unfortunately the standard at the level of football he was coaching at in CloggyLand was probably about par with Eastleigh Reserves :cool: Which begs the question if he had no experience with football at this level in his home country and has no previous knowledge/experience of english game how can Lowe justify his appointment? You don't just employ someone because thery're cheap and a nice bloke do you? Or they may as well have appointed me
Chez Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 You don't just employ someone because thery're cheap and a nice bloke do you? Or they may as well have appointed me Why stop there? Lowe could have auctioned off the position getting people to pay Saints to be the manager.
beatlesaint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I expect the Dutch players would get tired if they had to play two games in a week unlike our finely tuned young ..................oh sorry !
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 Why stop there? Lowe could have auctioned off the position getting people to pay Saints to be the manager. Thats actuaally a very good idea! Would anyone actually pay to work with Lowe though?
Saint In Exile Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Jan is just the coach. He's admitted not even seeing our signings play before Lowe signs them so he has no input in transfers. I believe SFC is run with an "old school tie" selectors philospy (like the England cricket team) with Lowe and Wotte deciding who they want to sign and who they want to be picked for the team. Jan just does as he's told like the yes man he is. When exactly has he admitted that other than with the signing of Schniderlin??
scott_saints Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Tbf though, I did expect to see us sign a few Dutch young'uns. Especially after meeting a Ajax youth player (Justin Sporkslede) on holiday in the Summer. Even he thought that JP would sign a few young players from over there!
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 I'm amazed there wasn't at least one out of contract Dutch player we could have picked up based on a recommendation from JP. Exactly is seems that JP was managing at a level equivalent of Nick Homes at Salisbury
alpine_saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Silly question I know but if jan was such a sucess in holland why didn't he bring some of his players over? surely they would have been good enough and also they would be cheap like Jan and we know how Lowe likes cheap Because Lowe selects the transfer targets.
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 Because Lowe selects the transfer targets. And he likes cheap ones so why didn't Jan suggest some? ... perhaps he did who knows
Anders Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Think he said at one of the fans forums in the summer that he didn't think dutch players were suited to this league.
Weston Saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I was told by someone at the Notts Forest game that two dutch players were training with the club. It was not from my usual sources but he also told me that we were about to sign Moleneaux (he assumed on loan) who was also training. He got that one right (except it was a permenant signing) so maybe he right with the Dutch pair. Not heard anything further from my other sources on the subject though.
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 Think he said at one of the fans forums in the summer that he didn't think dutch players were suited to this league. But dutch managers are? :smt102
Dalek2003 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Which begs the question if he had no experience with football at this level in his home country and has no previous knowledge/experience of english game how can Lowe justify his appointment? You don't just employ someone because thery're cheap and a nice bloke do you? Or they may as well have appointed me Bizzare, why in 2004 did Lowe appoint a League 1 manager with no Premier experience to run a mid table and successful premiership side ?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Bizzare, why in 2004 did Lowe appoint a League 1 manager with no Premier experience to run a mid table and successful premiership side ? Because he was clueless as he is now...
Mr X Posted 2 January, 2009 Author Posted 2 January, 2009 Bizzare, why in 2004 did Lowe appoint a League 1 manager with no Premier experience to run a mid table and successful premiership side ? How can a prep boy with such expensive taste go for the cheap option most of the time
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 How can a prep boy with such expensive taste go for the cheap option most of the time Because he's not buying for himself, he's buying people who are to perform for us the unwashed masses.
Chez Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 When exactly has he admitted that other than with the signing of Schniderlin?? he was managing in Holland, when would he have got the chance to see Wotton and Holmes?
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Because all the players he coached out there are too high a standard for us to afford... Sorry i meant none cheap enough for Lowe`s liking.
Chez Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Exactly is seems that JP was managing at a level equivalent of Nick Homes at Salisbury but if Nick became manager tomorrow I'd expect him to have at least one or two non league targets that he thought could do a job for us.
Saint In Exile Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 he was managing in Holland, when would he have got the chance to see Wotton and Holmes? He may very well have not seen them... Wotton was, however, signed while Pearson was still our manager and I've not seen any comment attributable to JP admitting he hadn't seen Holmes.
um pahars Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 He may very well have not seen them... Wotton was, however, signed while Pearson was still our manager and I've not seen any comment attributable to JP admitting he hadn't seen Holmes. Wotton was signed a couple of weeks after Jan had been unveiled as Head Coach. As for Holmes, JP actually claimed somewhere that he had seen him (how and where, I haven't a clue?). But then there's also those players who re-signed contracts such as Dyer & Gillett (maybe even McGoldrick) and you have to ask just how involved is Jan in these decisions, or perhaps more importantly who else is involved??? I just can't help but think that Jan is not his own man with regards transfer targets and keeping players on.
N/West Saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Which begs the question if he had no experience with football at this level in his home country and has no previous knowledge/experience of english game how can Lowe justify his appointment? You don't just employ someone because thery're cheap and a nice bloke do you? Or they may as well have appointed me How long had Jan been a manager in holland? Did he go into managment as soon as his playing days were over? If so at his age you would have thought he would have had plenty of managment experiance, Or was he a tulip seller outside Amsterdamn Central Station?
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