Saint_clark Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 And the day just gets better - Oops, wrong quote. Ignore
Sour Mash Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 How was Targett? Afterall he will most likely be playing the first 4 or 5 games of the season at LB. He was alright. Only been back to pre-season for a short while, so worth bearing that in mind. He's still a fair way off Bertrand in my eyes.
Batman Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 He was alright. Only been back to pre-season for a short while, so worth bearing that in mind. He's still a fair way off Bertrand in my eyes. I agree with you. Hope he does well for the couple of games bertrand will miss
jamesfp1 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Can someone summarise Martina's performance?Got forward a lot. Good strength. Good touch. Always looking for the overlap. Wasn't really tested defensively.
Sour Mash Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 I agree with you. Hope he does well for the couple of games bertrand will miss Bertrand will miss more than a few games at this rate I'd have thought.
Batman Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Bertrand will miss more than a few games at this rate I'd have thought. I read/heard he was out for 4-5 weeks. That was when it was 4-5 weeks to the start of the season physio room (seems quite accurate) has him back 8th Aug. Throw in a few games and an international break (is there one?) could be back after missing 3-4 games?? which is more than a couple, granted
Wiggles31 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 So is Rodriguez playing on the left or has he been used as a CF?
jimmysaint7 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Anyone know why Ramirez not travelled? Was in gun wharf today of all places
Window Cleaner Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Anyone know why Ramirez not travelled? Was in gun wharf today of all places On the way out I expect.
Doctoroncall Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 We will walk this league ffs. I agree if we could play in the Eredivisie but in the Premier League I think 7th is doable.
Hamilton Saint Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 The Club site has a video with RK talking about today's game. It includes the three goals. [video=youtube;5WYg-bXGLWs]
There when Franny scored Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 On the way out I expect. Did he not travel to Holland?
Bad Wolf Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 The Club site has a video with RK talking about today's game. It includes the three goals. [video=youtube;5WYg-bXGLWs] Amazing play from Tadic to set the third up. Good finish from Pelle too. I didn't see it at the time because my WiFi ****ed up but was keen to after the things I saw posted on here about it. Thanks for posting that.
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 The Club site has a video with RK talking about today's game. It includes the three goals. [video=youtube;5WYg-bXGLWs] Thanks for the link.
jimmysaint7 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Did he not travel to Holland? No. Still in england
ally_uk Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Think we played some decent stuff, Mane looked quality, Soares played well, Pelle did good and Wanyama is a beast! Liking the pace we have up top. Alot of people criticize Shane Long for the fee we paid granted he isn't going to be a golden boot winner but he runs his ass off and is very hard working.
Totton Sotton Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Like our corners. Looked like a threat on the highlights. Could of scored 3 or 4 from corners today if we were lucky. Maybe it was awful defending? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The9 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 (edited) Like our corners. Looked like a threat on the highlights. Could of scored 3 or 4 from corners today if we were lucky. Maybe it was awful defending? I'd say so, teams score from one in every 33.5 corners on average in the Premier League. (The every 19 attempts originally mentioned was free-kicks). "In terms of Corners, OPTA has a total 4321 corners that lead to 129 goals inside the box or a goal in every 33.5 attempt." http://enbsports.blogspot.ca/2014/02/creating-flowchart-of-goal-in.html Edited 19 July, 2015 by The9 Edited, found a source quoting OPTA (and the correct no. of corners)
The9 Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Anyway, if you didn't like the pretty picture, here's an analysis done about the sustainability of our start last season (it notably identifies that we had a high number of goals compared to chances created, and that wasn't going to continue): http://statsbomb.com/2014/11/is-sizzling-southamptons-start-to-the-season-sustainable/
Viking Warrior Posted 18 July, 2015 Posted 18 July, 2015 Why do we have posters who take great delight in criticises our players .i have a positive view but it does get a bit wearing some of you always finding fault in players
The9 Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Why do we have posters who take great delight in criticises our players .i have a positive view but it does get a bit wearing some of you always finding fault in players Well, it's an opinion, but there's not a single instance of it in the 27 posts I can see on the page prior to your comment - unless you consider Martina "a bit uncomfortable in possession early on, improved as the game went on" as a criticism?
sotonist Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 hopefully we see this side of tadic for longer this season.
RowanFR Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Decent crowd for a friendly. Our keeper situation has been dodgy since we came up to the prem. Gazza is young and he may be good one day, but he is certainly not ready yet. Get ready for Thursday, sold out 50.000 places
The Cat Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Shows how little attention I pay to preseason that I only just realised we played yesterday. Nice goals. The weight of pass from Tadic in the last 2 goals was beautiful.
LaptopSaint Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Liking the look of Cedric so far. And Tadic looks likes he had a good rest and has come back stronger. Throw in Mane scaring the sh1t out of every defence he runs at, Clasie biting their ankles, and Juanmi still to show, and I'm looking forward to this season...
Coldridge Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 We are the squad, we are the squad, we are we are, we are the squad.
Saint 76er Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Maybe there is a reduced budget, but I thought we still had that big team bus ....
Suhari Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Wasn't Sammy Lee in the original film anyway? (And if he wasn't he bloody should have been!)
mcjwills Posted 19 July, 2015 Posted 19 July, 2015 Maybe there is a reduced budget, but I thought we still had that big team bus .... Nah that went with Nigel
Saint031 Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 The game against Groningen was very good I must say. I also expect us (Feyenoord) to lose this weekend. We are really lacking defenders (and our best, van Beek, is out for 2 months..) and a clinical finisher. Although pre-season friendlies do not say everything, we lost 1-2 to VVV this weekend, who do not even play in the Eredivisie. It is a bit like Arsenal or Liverpool losing to a position 5-8 championship club like Wolverhampton or so. Anyway, we will try to create a good atmosphere
rooney Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 With a proper pre-season and now injury free, Tadic certainly looked the business v Gronigen.This will improve Pelle's goal scoring opportunities too. Very optimistic for the forthcoming season.
eddie Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 'pologies if this has been posted already, or lost in the thread, but does anyone have a link to a video of the full match of the groningen game? cheers!
alpine_saint Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Liking the look of Cedric so far. And Tadic looks likes he had a good rest and has come back stronger. Throw in Mane scaring the sh1t out of every defence he runs at, Clasie biting their ankles, and Juanmi still to show, and I'm looking forward to this season... I agree... if we bring in another CB.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Groningen have given a life-size plastic cow to the Koeman brothers. It's currently at the hotel that Saints are staying in.
itchen_dan Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Groningen have given a life-size plastic cow to the Koeman brothers. It's currently at the hotel that Saints are staying in. Lucky bastards.
ericofarabia Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Groningen have given a life-size plastic cow to the Koeman brothers. It's currently at the hotel that Saints are staying in. The Cowman Brothers!!
Colinjb Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 we lost 1-2 to VVV this weekend, who do not even play in the Eredivisie. Ah, Maya Yoshida's old side..... Interesting to see that without him they were relegated.
Saint_Abroad Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Groningen have given a life-size plastic cow to the Koeman brothers. It's currently at the hotel that Saints are staying in. After Groningen's utterly embarrassing loss. Not sure how they'll get that back, the airlines will milk them for baggage fees.
The9 Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Ah, Maya Yoshida's old side..... Interesting to see that without him they were relegated. Says a lot about the relative merits of defenders compared to strikers, and the relative merits of the different leagues' weakest sides too.
Colinjb Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 Says a lot about the relative merits of defenders compared to strikers, and the relative merits of the different leagues' weakest sides too. You've been reading 'The Numbers Game' havn't you? Great book by the way.
derry Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 No problem with the cow, Saints charter their own jet.
The9 Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 You've been reading 'The Numbers Game' havn't you? Great book by the way. I've mentioned it a number of times on here already. I'm also reading a number of analytics blogs, printing out Saints job descriptions to identify which software they use, and have the Opta season data from 2011/12 on my laptop. Saints are CLEARLY abiding by almost all of the principles of that book, and it is interesting to see the way in which analytics is being used in England compared to the whole moneyball thing. It looks to me like there are a few main areas of research to identify: - how to find out which things work and the most effective way of doing things on a football pitch by analysing the current data, (eg running predictive models, seeing the best action in specific circumstances, gathering intel about whether a backpass to the GK or hoofing the ball off the pitch is more beneficial, like by seeing who has possession and where on the pitch 5 seconds later, how many points a clean sheet is worth in England compared to Italy, etc.) - how to use the information available to support detailed scouting of players based on certain key skills I'm currently halfway through Opta's definition of actions on a football pitch, and trying to work out how to decode the additional tagging around each of those antics when recorded in XML (as well as trying to teach myself how to record actions myself, even the stuff like pitch co-ordinates is interesting [recorded against an index scale so the pitch dimensions aren't problematic for comparisons]).
Colinjb Posted 20 July, 2015 Posted 20 July, 2015 I've mentioned it a number of times on here already. Apologies, I shall step up my stalking efforts.
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