Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2015 Share Posted 1 July, 2015 I'm amazed at the £25M figure as that would push his wages towards £100K a week ! I would have guessed that Cortese blew the budget with £80K or so as Ramirez is on £75K a week. I see that scumball Alex Crookof****e making a big deal of it on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 1 July, 2015 Share Posted 1 July, 2015 There is no way on Earth we'd have done that. Pay him two years wages up front and send him off to go and earn even more money at another club? In Osvaldo's dreams maybe. Whatever we've given him it is clearly a better deal than hanging on to him and making money from loaning him out and getting someone else to pay half his wages. I'd be surprised if we gave him much more than a couple of months pay, with a view to him joining Boca. I sincerely hope that you are right but Osvaldo holds quite a lot of cards in this negotiation and that would chime with the £25m quotes (if they are remotely true - a big if i would concede). It is really quite nauseating that he might walk away with anything other than the collective opprobrium of all saints fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2015 Share Posted 1 July, 2015 (edited) I'm amazed at the £25M figure as that would push his wages towards £100K a week ! I would have guessed that Cortese blew the budget with £80K or so as Ramirez is on £75K a week. I see that scumball Alex Crookof****e making a big deal of it on twitter. 25m outlay = 60k a week. Include the transfer fee too. Edited 1 July, 2015 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Wages = £96k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Wages = £96k If the figures are right and osvaldo has cost us £25m then the amount of money wasted by the peoples chairman must be getting near on £100m. A similar figure for Ramirez, plus the other not so expensive failures like Mayuka and Forren, the over spending to the tune of £15-£20m on the training ground and the off shore loans, legal costs as well as his own wage and expenses which put him up there with the best paid chairmen in the county. Add in the lack of income he was generating then the picture isn't pretty. I remember the days when people used to insist he was a great businessman, let's hear the case for that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 If the figures are right and osvaldo has cost us £25m then the amount of money wasted by the peoples chairman must be getting near on £100m. A similar figure for Ramirez, plus the other not so expensive failures like Mayuka and Forren, the over spending to the tune of £15-£20m on the training ground and the off shore loans, legal costs as well as his own wage and expenses which put him up there with the best paid chairmen in the county. Add in the lack of income he was generating then the picture isn't pretty. I remember the days when people used to insist he was a great businessman, let's hear the case for that now. Training ground overspend = £24-25m Del. Car crash stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 He could be signing for Palace. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Just goes to show how ****ed up football is. In any other job he'd have been sacked long ago. Seems the only way a player doesn't get a pay-off for being a **** is if they rape, murder or fail a drugs test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 bloody expensive black box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 He could be signing for Palace. :lol: http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement. That's frightening. Can we sue Pochiettino/Cortese for professional misconduct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 That's frightening. Can we sue Pochiettino/Cortese for professional misconduct? For signing a player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 http://www.london24.com/sport/football/clubs/crystal-palace/crystal_palace_open_talks_with_troubled_italian_about_instant_premier_league_return_1_4136017 "fighting with Fonte" !!!! This wasn't a playground spat between 6 yo. Talk about re-writing history. I don't like the thought of him playing for us, but I would hate the thought of Fonte coming up against him. Someone would be getting a red card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. Well given that it's talksport... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount? Because he can go and sign for another club and earn even more from them. More to the point, what is Saints motivation to give him 2 years wages up front when we could have saved money loaning him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Because he can go and sign for another club and earn even more from them. More to the point, what is Saints motivation to give him 2 years wages up front when we could have saved money loaning him out. If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 I wouldn't mind betting he's been paid the vast majority of what he would have earned at Saints over the course of the last two years of his deal. What would be his motivation to accept a nominal amount? Contrary to what everybody believes, he doesn't hold all of the cards in this situation. Let's remember, he violently assaulted a colleague. In any other walk of life that would be grounds for instant, summary dismissal and termination of contract. If I did it to one of my work colleagues, I would be out the door so fast my feet wouldn't touch the ground. Now, the club obviously didn't take this course of action at the time due to the fact that he, as our most expensive signing ever, represented too much of a financial investment to just cut their losses. They tried very hard to get somebody to take him off our hands so that we could recoup some of that investment, but he managed to screw up every opportunity he had at any other club and it became obvious that we would never get any kind of transfer fee for him. It seems to me that because of the passage of time since the incident with Fonte, the club may have felt that to just 'sack' him now might have left them open to litigation from the player / his agent, and therefore decided it was best to come to a settlement with him instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 What ever fine he got for Newcastle and Jose it would have only been 2 weeks wages max as that is the maximum permissible. With players seemingly holding all the cards plus a few extras up their sleeves, you would hope in the time that has elapsed the club have been able to armour their backsides enough to pull the plug on this waste of space at the minimum of expense. I thought it was in line with his suspension of 8 games so about 6 weeks of wages blown, hence why he hasn't been seen at the club since if there has been no contrition on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny? Well apparently he's turned down Boca and wants to go back to Italy where he has a few middling clubs after him, might be just agent bollarks though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 If he could do that we may as well have loaned him out? I suspect the market for him is tiny? The point is there is absolutely no motivation for Saints to just pay him up for 2 years. Even if we sent him of on loan for the next year and still paid 90% of his wages, it's better than what you're suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 talkSport just said he got a £6m pay off. I can't believe that as that is prob paying his contract up in full for the remaining 2 years. If that was the case, then we might as well keep his registration and let him click his heels in hope that we could recoup something somewhere down the line. Where do all these people get their figures and if anyone is ITK, maybe now is the time to actually say what's what. I've no idea what the severance package is but £6mil is a years salary plus a million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 He could be signing for Palace. :lol: I thought Brentford had bought him when I saw they've just shelled out 2 million on a A Bellend ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Wages = £96k I've no idea what the severance package is but £6mil is a years salary plus a million. Where are you getting that figure? Those are Liverpool or Arsenal wages I can't believe we'd be so reckless after 1 year in the Premier League. Every other report I've seen was in the region of £60k. That fits with the £6m and £25m reports but TBH that just sounds like someone doing easy maths as opposed to actual inside knowledge of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Where are you getting that figure? Those are Liverpool or Arsenal wages I can't believe we'd be so reckless after 1 year in the Premier League. Every other report I've seen was in the region of £60k. That fits with the £6m and £25m reports but TBH that just sounds like someone doing easy maths as opposed to actual inside knowledge of the deal. I posted on here last April that the staplewood spend had gone from to £38m from £14m. That was 6 months or so before the figures became public. If he's received £6mil it's a years income plus a mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 14 July, 2015 Share Posted 14 July, 2015 Juan Arango @JuanG_Arango 1m1 minute agoHollywood, FL Looks like @danistone25 will be arriving over at @Cruz_Azul_FC in the next few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 July, 2015 Share Posted 14 July, 2015 Juan Arango @JuanG_Arango 1m1 minute agoHollywood, FL Looks like @danistone25 will be arriving over at @Cruz_Azul_FC in the next few hours. Thought he only wanted to play in Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Thought he only wanted to play in Italy. Easy mistake to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Wanted by Betis now http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/159011/osvaldo-excited-by-real-betis-interest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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