Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150701-dani-osvaldo-southampton-contract-terminated-2518604.aspx
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/article/20150701-dani-osvaldo-southampton-contract-terminated-2518604.aspx Beat me by mere seconds, Armstrong For the best, but I hate the thought of paying his contract up (if we did).
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 July, 2015 Author Posted 1 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement.
ErwinK1961 Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Woohoo! Will no doubt free up some wages, but guess we would have paid up his contract (or come to some sort of agreement with him)
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement.
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Just so long it was cheaper then him running the contract down, but my god, what a waste of space, time and effort that guy was. Time to draw a line underneath and move on.
Dig Dig Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement. Shocking. How can someone who clearly violated his contract end up costing the club so much?
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Simon Peach: I am led to believe Dani Osvaldo cost #SaintsFC in the region of £25million when you add up transfer fee, wages & termination agreement. £13m of that is the transfer fee? So £12m over two seasons in wages and severance agreement!?! Some money back from Juventus, Inter, and Boca but still, what a mistake he has turned out to be.
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 We must be saving a fair bit of money doing this, otherwise we'd have just kept him and made money loaning him out. Thanks for the memories and good luck with the future. Just kidding, f**k off!
washsaint Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Well done Poxytino and Cortese - what an absolute disgusting waste of money., If possible, I hate Pochettino even more now!
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 As well as getting a decent % off the wage bill, we've got a total **** out of the club. Good stuff.
JxgrSaint Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Can we not sue him? Mutu got sued and he just did a bit of coke, assaulting a team mate is much worse...
Lighthouse Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Please please please please turn up at Spurs on a free.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 We must be saving a fair bit of money doing this, otherwise we'd have just kept him and made money loaning him out. Yeah, whilst we free up a big load of wages, "Saving money" in this instance is a relative term.
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Please please please please turn up at Spurs on a free. Would imagine he'll end up at Boca. They have said they wanted him back (for some reason) but only on another loan /free transfer. I really hope we replace him as our record signing sooner rather than later. It'll be worse than being stuck on Delap for a decade.
Saint_Ash Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 In the picture we're seeing the back of Osvaldo. Apt.
Essruu Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Shocking. How can someone who clearly violated his contract end up costing the club so much? Do you mean Cortese?
thorpie the sinner Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 They say things come in threes, 2 out, hopefully one in today!
Greenridge Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 In the picture we're seeing the back of Osvaldo. Apt. Intentional I'm sure! Poor fella. Misunderstood.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Yeah, whilst we free up a big load of wages, "Saving money" in this instance is a relative term. Yep - as others have said, you'd presume Saints are saving a bit of money doing this, but if he was due to earn £60k a week for the next two years and we've paid him off at 50k a week, we've only really free'd up 10k a week of wages (for example) in terms of money saved. But the club must have been really desperate to see him go - they could have waited until the 1st September to do this.
angelman Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I wouldn't get too worried about the £25m figure - I doubt Peach knows regardless of what he has been led to believe. Anyway, we can remember the Man City goal and draw a line under this sorry affair.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Yep - as others have said, you'd presume Saints are saving a bit of money doing this, but if he was due to earn £60k a week for the next two years and we've paid him off at 50k a week, we've only really free'd up 10k a week of wages (for example) in terms of money saved. But the club must have been really desperate to see him go - they could have waited until the 1st September to do this. Indeed - Otherwise couldn't we have just sold him to a Boca or someone for free? (but then wouldn't have had to pay off his remaining contract)
angelman Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 The one positive I see from this is that it showed that Saints, newly promoted, were happy to be serious in the transfer market. Yes, it didn't work and was a waste of money, but him and Gaston showed that we were prepared to sign players of a certain calibre. Now we have added Koeman to the mix, that also helps.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 The one positive I see from this is that it showed that Saints, newly promoted, were happy to be serious in the transfer market. Yes, it didn't work and was a waste of money, but him and Gaston showed that we were prepared to sign players of a certain calibre. Now we have added Koeman to the mix, that also helps. I don't see using Osvaldo or Gaston's transfer moves as ANY positive! Hey, on the plus side, this moves the legend that is Mayuka closer to the 1st team.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Be surprised if it has cost us that much, but what a ****.
Colinjb Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 (edited) The one positive I see from this is that it showed that Saints, newly promoted, were happy to be serious in the transfer market. Yes, it didn't work and was a waste of money, but him and Gaston showed that we were prepared to sign players of a certain calibre. Now we have added Koeman to the mix, that also helps. I can see the point to a degree, Gaston and Osvaldo looked a bit 'Robinho to Man City.' They didn't work out, yet this set a marker for our intent, albeit to a more limited extent. Edited 1 July, 2015 by Colinjb
hasper57saint Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I believe the Cubs' Legal Eagles will have activated the clause 'Frustration of Contract' and his Agent has had to accept some small form of recompense.
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Isn't Morgan 'supposed' to be moving today ?? That was the Mirror guessing.
Saint Bones Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Damn that's some wasted money.... Anyway moving on
Saint_Ash Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Isn't Morgan 'supposed' to be moving today ?? Hopefully Tom will tell us soon.
Snopper Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I believe the Cubs' Legal Eagles will have activated the clause 'Frustration of Contract' and his Agent has had to accept some small form of recompense. Hope this is right - sounds like it could/should be. Either way, money well spent to see him on his way and as well as the legal eagles, I`m sure the financial whizz kids at SMS are `content` with the outcome.
disconnect Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Pretty sure he's breached contract quite a few times, so not really a surprise
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I wouldn't get too worried about the £25m figure - I doubt Peach knows regardless of what he has been led to believe. Anyway, we can remember the Man City goal and draw a line under this sorry affair. Why would it be significantly different to that given the size of the transfer and high wages?
SuperSAINT Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Pretty sure an ITK said we were seeking legal advice on that matter. (That was ages ago though).
Sour Mash Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I'm still chuckling that some on here had thought he'd just breezed back in and was cracking on with pre-season training on Monday without any fuss
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 A shadow lifted. Interestingly, Ramirez remains at the club it would appear ready to take up a Europa league place in the squad. Also, there was a comment made on the training video clip from the club that made the point that Morgan was training with the squad - a sign he might be staying? Is his £25M valuation too high for United or whoever to come and get him?
Matthew Le God Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 (edited) Also, there was a comment made on the training video clip from the club that made the point that Morgan was training with the squad - a sign he might be staying? He is contracted to Southampton, its merely him doing as he should and turning up to work on a Monday morning. Interestingly, Ramirez remains at the club it would appear ready to take up a Europa league place in the squad. Ramirez might be used by Saints this season, but him turning up to work on a day he expected to isn't really a sign that he won't leave this summer. Edited 1 July, 2015 by Matthew Le God
derry Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 It may be that the termination was beneficial to Osvaldo, enough to allow him to negotiate a lucrative contract with say Boca. By freeing him there may have just been a ex gratia payment so that he can sign for somebody without fees etc. It would make little sense otherwise. Saints may have got out of jail there.
SuperMikey Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Well, at least he's gone. Ultimately that's only going to be a good thing for the club, not to have him hanging around.
NewYorkSaint Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I'm shocked if we paid him anything to terminate. I would have thought the negotiation would go: - Us: "Look, you want out, we want out, so let's see. Your value maybe not quite what it was, so you won't get the same wages at another club. On the other hand, if we release you you will be able to claim whatever a club would have paid for you as your personal signing bonus. Maybe you'll lose £3m in wages over next two years... but you can more than make that up in a signing bonus. You're not claiming your value has plummeted by more than 75% are you? Are you??? And if that doesn't appeal, last time we checked head butting a team mate is cause for contract cancellation plus a lawsuit for damages. So we can go that route if you prefer. But why feed the lawyers? Just go." - Osvaldo's agent, who now has complete flexibility on stiffing some other club. "If you insist..."
VectisSaint Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 I'm still chuckling that some on here had thought he'd just breezed back in and was cracking on with pre-season training on Monday without any fuss Surely no-one seriously believed that did they? I can only guess you must mean the bright spark(s) who could not tell the difference between Osvaldo and Gazza.
captainchris Posted 1 July, 2015 Posted 1 July, 2015 Woohoo! Will no doubt free up some wages, but guess we would have paid up his contract (or come to some sort of agreement with him) I doubt we have to pay anything up. I would strongly suspect he was in breach of contract. Also we would have had home here in the corner of a field training on his own if the contract was binding still which I very much doubt Osvaldo would want... Suspect he walked or was sacked for not turning up for training - again..... He was in so many contract breaches there is no way he would have been paid up...
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