Liverhampton

[andoru]

You are undoubtedly a beautiful person and I love you already. Ignorance is indeed bliss. Let us go forth in peace.

 

Ignorance? What's ignorant about my accurate understanding of what 'net worth' actually means? Most people think the likes of Bill Gates have giant bank vaults full of coins, like in Duck Tales, but it's all perception. Same as the stock markets. When the financial crisis hit, money didn't disappear, value did. They are quite different.

[ENSKIED]

Ignorance? What's ignorant about my accurate understanding of what 'net worth' actually means? Most people think the likes of Bill Gates have giant bank vaults full of coins, like in Duck Tales, but it's all perception. Same as the stock markets. When the financial crisis hit, money didn't disappear, value did. They are quite different.

 

Hi andoru, thanks for the reply. So to go forward we must go back to look at what you originally wrote:

 

Bill Gates wealth just accumulates – he's not really pursuing it, in fact he gives tons of it away. His net worth isn't real money after all, it's just value in stocks, property, personal branding, etc. That can easily disappear – ask Brazil's former richest man Eike Batista, who went from being worth 30b to 200m in one year. Once you start getting into the billions we aren't talking about real zeros on bank balances anymore, but perceived value in whatever the person owns.

 

So on the one hand we have Bill Gates' wealth "just accumulating" while Batista's "just evaporates" can you appreciate the anomaly, indeed the diametric contention of what you are claiming? Of course Gates wealth just doesn't accumulate, it comes via his being an owner of a world business monopoly.

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/gates-is-a-ruthless-schemer-says-his-microsoft-cofounder-2257843.html

 

There's lots more of course.

 

When I was growing up there were such things as Nationalised Industries and they were always attacked as being unnecessary, wasteful and not an idealised way of running a business, most especially because they were Monopolies, which were very, very bad indeed. What I was to learn was Monopolies are very, very bad when owned by the people but they are great when owned by individuals. Ergo, Microsoft, is more or less a world monopoly as essentially are weapons, oil, and tobacco [cartels] with the likes of Walmart and the banks gravitating toward a similar concept. I read a report not long ago that up to three quarters of the world resource trade is owned and or "influenced" by Walmart . Now due to rampant greed not long ago the world banking system was in the process of collapsing due as I write to the wanton greed of individuals in terms of obscene bonuses etc etc - so what was the outcome? The overnight outcome was a nationalised banking industry something that previously of course was very, very bad, with the mass i.e. the people then picking up the bill for the collapse. Hence we have entered and endured a "period of austerity" as the politicians like to call it. Of course there was and is no austerity for them, they still sell themselves to the highest bidder [straw and Malcolm Rifkind etc etc etc] - The IMF is a massive controlling influence and so forth in world finance they are responsible for much of what has happened in Greece and the Ukraine and so on and so on, as they too take on the auspices of a world controlling monopoly.

 

The technology is and continues to become available to create world monopolies which is and will place control in fewer and fewer hands, this is happening as we speak, if allowed unabated the result will almost certainly be to the detriment of mankind in terms of the majority. For example we, humankind, have never been "richer" in our whole history, YET the rich and poor disparity has never been greater, over one billion children exist in deprivation and every 3.5 seconds a person dies of starvation, while something like 260 million children exist in sexual and labour slavery. Most politicians for example are control freaks it's why they enter politics in the first instance, the laws they create they believe they run immune to, such laws apply to the mass but not to them. We only have to refer to any given moment in time to understand the same. Now for the determining factor, politics are now more or less controlled by the conglomerates - "what is good for general Motors is good for America" Irwin a quote now contested in terms of "true" content but essentially holding truth hence it took off globally - they are all jolly bedfellows together and control of the world's debt, thereby the world's finance and control of the world's resources is the aim. A very famous British Politician once said, "give the working class their football, tobacco and beer and forget them as a political force" and essential that remains true also, though no doubt we can add soaps and internet porn now to the list.

 

Apologies for the length and also for going somewhat off topic, though it does bear great relevance to what is happening in football too, which is where we came in so to speak as the top prizes virtue of big business' big bucks and their control gravitate to fewer and fewer teams. Dare we mention FIFA?

 

Ignorance does seem very blissful after all does it not?

Edited 30 June, 2015 by ENSKIED

[Whitey Grandad]

Ignorance? What's ignorant about my accurate understanding of what 'net worth' actually means? Most people think the likes of Bill Gates have giant bank vaults full of coins, like in Duck Tales, but it's all perception. Same as the stock markets. When the financial crisis hit, money didn't disappear, value did. They are quite different.

 

Indeed. The actual figures of 'net worth' are overinflated because if these people started to sell off their stocks in large numbers then their value would drop. Having said that, they can obviously lay their hands on a few million quid or so when they need to so to the likes of us they are indeed filthy rich.

[Saint IQ]

If Lallana had left with a letter like this as opposed to the crappy unthoughtful 2 page spread in the daily echo maybe a few more people would of felt less bitter about his move. Edited 30 June, 2015 by Saint IQ

[Lallana's Left Peg]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]1720[/ATTACH] If Lallana had left with a letter like this as opposed to the crappy unthoughtful 2 page spread in the Sun maybe a few more people would of felt less bitter about his move.

 

The damage was already done by the time he left, no post-move niceties would have changed peoples minds about his conduct that summer.

 

Maybe he felt like he needed to behave like that to get his move, or maybe he lacked the nous to understand how his actions would reflect on him to the Saints fans.

[Redslo]

Marcotti on The Times podcast said that lovren just reverted to how he was at previous club . He claimed that last season at Liverpool wasn't an exception , the good season at Southampton was .

 

Just curious--as an American I cannot tell--is Marcotti someone who is considered to know what he is talking about?

[stevegrant]

Just curious--as an American I cannot tell--is Marcotti someone who is considered to know what he is talking about?

Generally, yes. He's one of the more respected journalist/pundits.

[Redslo]

Ignorance? What's ignorant about my accurate understanding of what 'net worth' actually means? Most people think the likes of Bill Gates have giant bank vaults full of coins, like in Duck Tales, but it's all perception. Same as the stock markets. When the financial crisis hit, money didn't disappear, value did. They are quite different.

 

Perceived value disappeared. Much of the true value remained and was on sale cheap, while the rest was overvalued all along. Of course, I don't claim to be able to see, in advanced, with certainty what is what.

 

Generally, yes. He's one of the more respected journalist/pundits.

 

Thank you. It seemed that way to me but I couldn't really be sure. Of course, I suppose I should not assert surety based upon your reply alone. Life is so confusing.

Edited 30 June, 2015 by Redslo

[Deano6]

Indeed. The actual figures of 'net worth' are overinflated because if these people started to sell off their stocks in large numbers then their value would drop. Having said that, they can obviously lay their hands on a few million quid or so when they need to so to the likes of us they are indeed filthy rich.

 

That doesn't make them overinflated, that's just the difference between "going concern" valuation and "liquidation" valuation. For example in the latter the value of intangibles drops to zero in many cases as there is no longer the ability to recognise future profits associated with them.

[Whitey Grandad]

That doesn't make them overinflated, that's just the difference between "going concern" valuation and "liquidation" valuation. For example in the latter the value of intangibles drops to zero in many cases as there is no longer the ability to recognise future profits associated with them.

 

Well, yes. By overinflated I mean that any indicated figure of net worth is very unlikely to be realised, unless some mug with even more money comes along.

[miserableoldgit]

[hutch]

[angelman]

Possibly in for Benteke now. Strewth, they seem to be going for it. How much is that now, that Brenda has spent - nearly £300m with Benteke? And for what? 2 more points than us.

[ENSKIED]

Possibly in for Benteke now. Strewth, they seem to be going for it. How much is that now, that Brenda has spent - nearly £300m with Benteke? And for what? 2 more points than us.

 

A lot of players can take a season or more to truly "settle" and adapt most especially in the pressure cooker of very high expectations concomitant with its swift disappointments, forms of latent development to the fore. For example, [painful I know for many Saints fans] if Lallana starts to perform as well as we all know he can, as does Lovren and some of the other players start finding their feet, Clyne, Can, Milner, Ings, Firmino, Ibe, etc. etc. Liverpool "could" have a very powerful squad indeed. Can Rodgers utilise it? If he can't within what say 2 months or so of the new season, it'll be adiós amigo?

[FloridaMarlin]

Possibly in for Benteke now. Strewth, they seem to be going for it. How much is that now, that Brenda has spent - nearly £300m with Benteke? And for what? 2 more points than us.

 

I'm sure I saw somewhere that up to the end of last season Bodgers had spunked the thick end of £260m on 25 players in his three years at the club, during which time he has become the owner of the proud record of being the first Liverpool manager since the Shankly era to not win a trophy in his first three seasons in charge.

 

There have been some cracking signings in among that lot - Fabio Borini for £10m, Balotelli for £16m stick out like cobblers' thumbs, but it's the lesser-known or half-forgotten signings where he has shown his mettle.

 

Anybody remember the £3m spent for Oussama Assaidi? The £7m coughed up to Sporting Lisbon for Tiago Ilori? Iago Aspas? He paid Celta Vigo £7m for him. Liverpool paid £9.8m for Divick Origi, then promptly loaned him out. He might well be an investment for the future, but why not have him learn his trade over here if he's that good. I was astounded to see they paid £15m for Mamadou Sakho, which puts the price for Toby into perspective.

 

It might be why three of his first four signings this summer (Ings, Milner and Bogdan) have been free transfers.

[doddisalegend]

Possibly in for Benteke now. Strewth, they seem to be going for it. How much is that now, that Brenda has spent - nearly £300m with Benteke? And for what? 2 more points than us.

 

Giving Brenda more options is probably just courting disaster he couldn't work out his best team last season. Meanwhile the other big teams (possibly not spurs who seem to want to flog half there squad) will just add a couple of quality players to their already strong squads and hit the ground running while Liverpool are still trying to find their feet.

Edited 1 July, 2015 by doddisalegend

[richardc]

The scousers excuse last season was it was so difficult to adapt with so many new players so what do they do this season change the entire squad nearly

 

scum of the earth

[Saint_Ash]

I'm sure I saw somewhere that up to the end of last season Bodgers had spunked the thick end of £260m on 25 players in his three years at the club, during which time he has become the owner of the proud record of being the first Liverpool manager since the Shankly era to not win a trophy in his first three seasons in charge.

 

There have been some cracking signings in among that lot - Fabio Borini for £10m, Balotelli for £16m stick out like cobblers' thumbs, but it's the lesser-known or half-forgotten signings where he has shown his mettle.

 

Anybody remember the £3m spent for Oussama Assaidi? The £7m coughed up to Sporting Lisbon for Tiago Ilori? Iago Aspas? He paid Celta Vigo £7m for him. Liverpool paid £9.8m for Divick Origi, then promptly loaned him out. He might well be an investment for the future, but why not have him learn his trade over here if he's that good. I was astounded to see they paid £15m for Mamadou Sakho, which puts the price for Toby into perspective.

 

It might be why three of his first four signings this summer (Ings, Milner and Bogdan) have been free transfers.

[Chez]

nothing more enjoyable than seeing Brenda squirm last season, and if results don't go his way quite quickly we will get to it all over again.

 

Having said that I think they will be better next season. After a laughable start Lovren eventually started to find his feet, once Lallana got over his latest injury he offered them something. Ibe looks a good player, Coutinho had a great season, Emre Can looks a very good player to me (if played in the right position) in Clyne they have upgraded big style. Hope they fail, but not so sure they will.

[trousers]

[Saint Fan CaM]

nothing more enjoyable than seeing Brenda squirm last season, and if results don't go his way quite quickly we will get to it all over again.

 

Having said that I think they will be better next season. After a laughable start Lovren eventually started to find his feet, once Lallana got over his latest injury he offered them something. Ibe looks a good player, Coutinho had a great season, Emre Can looks a very good player to me (if played in the right position) in Clyne they have upgraded big style. Hope they fail, but not so sure they will.

 

Just having expensive players at your disposal doesn't make for a good management with effective tactics etc. I don't think Brenda has realised that just because these ex-Saints were great with us, doesn't mean they will come for him...in fact the evidence suggests very much the opposite. He really could be looking at the sack by Xmas if they are outside the top 6 I suspect.

[Mallagroth]

Courtesy of YNFA...

[SaintsIRL]

So, smug, smarmy Rodgers now has/looks like having:

 

Lallana

Lovren

Lambert

Clyne

 

And we will have mugged them off for nearly 60 million for those 4. He's bought Danny Ings and some SOuth American for nearly 30 million (how long does it take for South Americans to settle in and adjust?).

 

If I were a Liverhampton fan I would not be happy - and I truly hope Clyne works out as badly for them as Lambert and Lovren.

 

I can't believe he is likely to have 4 of our team that finished 8th - and that;s their spine?

 

Thank god we have Koeman!

Bit spiteful.....

 

Our fans want to slag off Liverpool, yet act like this? Liverpool have some bad fans....just as we do......just as any football team does.

 

Clyne is in the top three right backs in the league, no matter what we want to say about him now. And he will likely continue to do so. Right back was a problem position for Liverpool last season so Clyne is arguably their best signing so far.

 

Adam had some good spells for them, despite it being deemed a "poor season" for him, he managed 5 goals and 3 assists, far from awful. We know Adam isn't 100% in terms of natural fitness, that's why he rarely seemed to finish 90 minutes. So I can only imagine getting injured in preseason didn't help him at all. if he gets a full preseason in for them this season, I reckon he'll be a big player for them.

 

Lovren has struggled. He tries so hard, he messes up even the simplest of things. He's never going to be a £20m defender, we mugged them off big time for him. However if he can get over his nerves, perhaps he can be the £8m defender we signed originally for them. Then again I remember reading an article on him last summer written by a Croatian writer who had followed his career, seems inconsistency is his middle name, 6 months on, 6 months off for the entirety of his career. I disliked the guy at first last summer but a few months on I felt sorry for him, he was trying so hard to be an LFC player and he just couldn't manage it.

 

Lambert I truly pity, he dreamed of playing for LFC, they sign him and then they don't play to his strengths at all. Now their plastic fans (by that I mean a section of their fans, a minority) are labeling him a flop on Twitter etc. Infuriates me tbh. If Rodgers wasn't going to use him properly, he should have left him with us.

 

Overall I don't blame our players for wanting to move on to Liverpool. I've seen people on here saying Liverpool aren't above us, and its simply about money but I disagree. Liverpool have finished above us the last few seasons and will continue to do so. Their chances of a top 4 finish or winning a cup may be low, but ours are almost non-existent. We've lost six first team players to bigger clubs in the past two summers and look to be losing two more (if you count Tobi). Yes we've signed well; the likes of Tadic, Mane and Bertrand have been great signings and the rest have been decent. However you can't keep that kind of success rate up, I read somewhere once that the success rate of signings is usually less than 50% so we're riding our luck atm. I'll get behind Soares of course but the chance of him being as good as Clyne are low.

 

That said I don't even go along with the attitude of some people that we upgraded on the players that left. I'd honestly have preferred to have Lambert than Pelle last season, Pelle fell off in the second half of the season, I doubt Rickie would have done the same. I also still would have preferred a fit Adam to Tadic. I do think Tobi was an upgrade on Lovren, but sadly we likely only had him for the one year. Bertrand had a super season, and I honestly could not have seen Shaw doing the same, however I still think if Shaw can overcome these injuries, he is England's future left back. I think the reason we were better last season is that we had a better squad, the players we brought in like Mane that weren't direct replacements for anyone who left, were the difference. And I hope we can once again improve our squad even if the replacements for Clyne, Schneiderlin and Tobi aren't quite up to the bar they set.

 

Also to say they are Liverpool's spine? What about Coutinho, Henderson, Sakho, Skrtel, Sturridge and Sterling (for the minute)? Are they not Liverpool's spine?

 

Ultimately I predict Liverpool to be battling Spurs for 5th. With ourselves having to fend off the challenge of the likes of Swansea, West Ham, Stoke and Crystal Palace for 7th place, all the while praying that it once again is a European place. And honestly I think that's as high as we go unless we get a takeover from someone that is willing to invest to bring us to the next level; tbh I think Liverpool are in the same state, if they want to be top 4 they also need new owners. And maybe when they get new owners who do their business behind closed doors where it belongs, Liverpool will stop bugging us all so much

[Genk]

Can confirm from a reliable source that a certain Mr Adam Lallana is in Lyndhurst tonight at Meridien Modena of anyone wants to pop down for a chat. Same source as the Clyne information posted before.

[angelman]

Can confirm from a reliable source that a certain Mr Adam Lallana is in Lyndhurst tonight at Meridien Modena of anyone wants to pop down for a chat. Same source as the Clyne information posted before.

 

Ah, the important things in a footballer's life.

[LGTL]

Are they short of Ferrari and maserati garages in Liverpool then? Actually that's probably a stupid question.

[Saint Garrett]

Are they short of Ferrari and maserati garages in Liverpool then? Actually that's probably a stupid question.

 

Woul have thought they'd be a few in Cheshire somewhere!?

[mcbendy]

I note with some satisfaction that Brenda is the bookies favourite to be sacked. I REALLY hope that he is sacked this season. The man is so obviously an arrogant bell-end. It amazes me that the media love-in continues in many quarters, despite how poorly (obviously, surely?!) he invested the Suarez money. Have any of his signings been anything other than flops? Hopefully we'll be ahead of them in November and he'll have been sacked before Christmas.

[mcbendy]

http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/25-1

 

Brendan Rodgers has bought 31 players for £289,050,000 so far

 

Player Club Fee Date

Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012

Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012

Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012

Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012

Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012

Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013

Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013

Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013

Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013

Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013

Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013

Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013

Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013

Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013

Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013

Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014

Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014

Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014

Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014

Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014

Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014

Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014

Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014

Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014

Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £3,500,000 * 20 June 2015

Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Danny Ings Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015

Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015

Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015

[mcbendy]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11549333/Liverpools-signings-during-the-Brendan-Rodgers-era-rated-by-Chris-Bascombe.html

 

All of the signings during the Brendan Rodgers era rated

Twenty-three players have been brought to Anfield since Rodgers was appointed in 2012, with the transfer committee of Rodgers, Michael Edwards, Ian Ayre, Michael Gordon, Dave Fallows and Barry Hunter overseeing new signings. In a withering assessment of Liverpool's recruitment policy over the last three years, Chris Bascombe deems just five of the buys successes, but will this summer's signings be any better?

[mcbendy]

http://www.lfcactive.com/08/5-reasons-i-hate-brendan-rodgers/

 

Interesting...

[Delboy Dave]

Wow there is some crazy prices in that transfer list

[angelman]

If rumour is to be believed, they are going to go for Lyon's Lacazette as well for about €30m. Seems Brenda thinks that the way to win is just spend, spend, spend and then spend a bit more.

[FloridaMarlin]

http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/25-1

 

Brendan Rodgers has bought 31 players for £289,050,000 so far

 

Player Club Fee Date

Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012

Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012

Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012

Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012

Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012

Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013

Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013

Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013

Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013

Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013

Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013

Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013

Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013

Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013

Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013

Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014

Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014

Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014

Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014

Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014

Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014

Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014

Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014

Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014

Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £3,500,000 * 20 June 2015

Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Danny Ings Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015

Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015

Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015

 

That really is a damning indictment of a man who has more than a touch of the Emperor's New Clothes about him.

 

He is the first Liverpool manager since the advent of the Shankly era not to win a trophy in his first three seasons in charge.

 

I hope the Dippers don't reach for the axe too soon. They might get somebody decent in.

 

In contrast to the leniency shown to Brenda, Fenway Sports Group certainly didn't mess around when it came to firing Bobby Valentine after just one disastrous season in charge of the Boston Red Sox.

 

Away from football, he appears to be just as arrogant and lassez-faire in his private life and dealings.

 

His former wife was forced to drag him through the courts for improved maintenance payments after he short-changed her. He has a property portfolio which includes around 120 properties, so make of that what you will.

 

He's currently knocking round with a 31-year-old former receptionist at the club.

 

All round, a bit of a clown who promises plenty more lols providing he's kept in post.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

If rumour is to be believed, they are going to go for Lyon's Lacazette as well for about €30m. Seems Brenda thinks that the way to win is just spend, spend, spend and then spend a bit more.

 

It is if you are a competent Manager!

[Saint Benali]

http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/25-1

 

Brendan Rodgers has bought 31 players for £289,050,000 so far

 

Player Club Fee Date

Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012

Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012

Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012

Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012

Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012

Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013

Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013

Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013

Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013

Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013

Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013

Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013

Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013

Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013

Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013

Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014

Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014

Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014

Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014

Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014

Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014

Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014

Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014

Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014

Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £3,500,000 * 20 June 2015

Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Danny Ings Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015

Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015

Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015

 

And can't beat a league two team at home within 90 mins. Dead man walking.

[Lemons]

Liverpool are truly ****ing dreadful. Sad truth is tho that we'll still finish below them...

 

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[egg]

http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/ByManager/25-1

 

Brendan Rodgers has bought 31 players for £289,050,000 so far

 

Player Club Fee Date

Fabio Borini Roma £10,400,000 13 July 2012

Joe Allen Swansea City £15,000,000 10 August 2012

Oussama Assaidi Heerenveen £3,000,000 17 August 2012

Nuri Sahin Real Madrid On Loan 25 August 2012

Samed Yesil Bayer Leverkusen £1,000,000 30 August 2012

Daniel Sturridge Chelsea £12,000,000 2 January 2013

Philippe Coutinho Inter Milan £8,500,000 30 January 2013

Luis Alberto Sevilla £6,800,000 22 June 2013

Iago Aspas Celta Vigo £7,000,000 23 June 2013

Simon Mignolet Sunderland £9,000,000 25 June 2013

Kolo Touré Free Transfer Free 2 July 2013

Aly Cissokho Valencia On Loan * 20 August 2013

Mamadou Sakho Paris St Germain £15,000,000 2 September 2013

Tiago Ilori Sporting Lisbon £7,000,000 2 September 2013

Victor Moses Chelsea On Loan * 2 September 2013

Rickie Lambert Southampton £4,500,000 2 June 2014

Adam Lallana Southampton £25,000,000 * 1 July 2014

Emre Can Bayer Leverkusen £9,750,000 3 July 2014

Lazar Markovic Benfica £19,800,000 15 July 2014

Dejan Lovren Southampton £20,000,000 * 27 July 2014

Divick Origi Lille £9,800,000 * 29 July 2014

Javier Manquillo Atletico Madrid On Loan 6 August 2014

Alberto Moreno Sevilla £12,000,000 * 16 August 2014

Mario Balotelli AC Milan £16,000,000 25 August 2014

Joe Gomez Charlton Athletic £3,500,000 * 20 June 2015

Adam Bogdan Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Danny Ings Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

James Milner Free Transfer Free 1 July 2015

Nathaniel Clyne Southampton £12,500,000 1 July 2015

Roberto Firmino Hoffenheim £29,000,000 * 6 July 2015

Christian Benteke Aston Villa £32,500,000 22 July 2015

 

Blimey. About £100m "worth" of that lot are no longer at the club or not in the team, and that's not counting Moreno who's only on the fringes. Shocking waste of money, the fool is on borrowed time.

[S-Clarke]

Some of the buys Liverpool have made over the last 18 months have been horrific, totally horrific.

 

Out of that list above, the only successes I would say are Sturridge and Coutinho. The rest - the jury is still out on a couple, but the majority have been shambolic additions, poorly scouted, poorly managed and in turn shipped out sharpish.

[The9]

Did we really get £20 million for Lovren?

 

Really?

[Wade Garrett]

Proof that Moneyball doesn't work in a fluid game like football.

[CB Fry]

Proof that Moneyball doesn't work in a fluid game like football.

£289m is a heck of a lot of money in that ball.

[scotty]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the R4 sports round up this morning said the dippers are being linked with ancelotti. Also said it was significant that brenda didn't take the presser after the game.

[Batman]

Don't know if it's been mentioned, but the R4 sports round up this morning said the dippers are being linked with ancelotti. Also said it was significant that brenda didn't take the presser after the game.

 

it was a dire result

they drew 1-1 with Carlise at home, ffs

not as if it was a reservse side liverpool put out.

 

surely, he will be gone soon enough.

[angelman]

Did we really get £20 million for Lovren?

 

Really?

 

I was talking to my lad about this on the way into school this morning. I said that Lollana was prob worth £15m and Lolvren £12m, combined £27m rather than the £45m that they shelled out.

[Batman]

I was talking to my lad about this on the way into school this morning. I said that Lollana was prob worth £15m and Lolvren £12m, combined £27m rather than the £45m that they shelled out.

 

lallana swept the board with end of year awards and was in the PFA team of the year

 

if you think that values him around the same as shane long then you have no hope

[david in sweden]

I was talking to my lad about this on the way into school this morning.

 

I said that Lollana was prob worth £15m and Lolvren £12m, combined £27m rather than the £45m that they shelled out.

 

 

 

....and can you imagine the cost of paying all those players who have signed long-term contracts ?..

 

Example : Lallana fee £25 million + a 5 year contract at (say) £100K /week = another £25 million...that's a £50 million commitment for just one player.

 

At least Adam puts in a good shift now and again. Just think of having to pay Lovren his salary every month .. and then seeing what you get for your £.

 

I hope they are printing their own money at Anfield.

Edited 24 September, 2015 by david in sweden

[sadoldgit]

lallana swept the board with end of year awards and was in the PFA team of the year

 

if you think that values him around the same as shane long then you have no hope

 

Do you think he has improved since he has been at Liverpool, stayed the same, or got worse?

[angelman]

if you think that values him around the same as shane long then you have no hope

 

Did I say that I thought it values him the same as Long? No, as I don't value and never have valued Long at £12m (even though I realise why we might have paid that much). So pipe down.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Do you think he has improved since he has been at Liverpool, stayed the same, or got worse?

 

He has struggled with injuries and form but when we sold him we were all gutted. The benefit of hindsight has (thus far) shown it to be a great deal for Saints though.