SO16_Saint Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 http://m.ultras-tifo.net/news/3630-uefa-1516-week-3-cl-a-el-second-qualifying-round-first-leg.html Taster of a few places we could go. Think I'll endure the Match Thread on SWF if that's ok. I quite like my life right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Kariat 3 - 0 Alashkert FT So if it is that tie who would have the balls to book Kazakhstan tomorrow? Nobody, given that when I looked up flights to Kazakhstan on the possible dates of the tie a month ago the only way to do it was a 10 hour stopover in Moscow or Latvia and you had to leave lunchtime on Wednesday even to get there in time... on the bright side, they are a lot nearer than the other Kazakh sides who are out already. Oh no, wait, they're not. They're on the Kyrgyzstan border. Rest assured that would be one of the few games I'd be waiting to see what Saints offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Nobody, given that when I looked up flights to Kazakhstan on the possible dates of the tie a month ago the only way to do it was a 10 hour stopover in Moscow or Latvia and you had to leave lunchtime on Wednesday even to get there in time... on the bright side, they are a lot nearer than the other Kazakh sides who are out already. Oh no, wait, they're not. They're on the Kyrgyzstan border. Rest assured that would be one of the few games I'd be waiting to see what Saints offered. Maybe the Armenians will pull back a 3 goal deficit next week, then booking flights to Kazak would be a bit of a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 FWIW I think even I'd baulk at Kazakhstan. Just tapped in the commercial flights, leave London at 18:35 on Wednesday, 17 hours flight time with a layover in Moscow in order to arrive at 17:15 on matchday and then fly back at 6am on the Friday morning arriving back at Heathrow at 4pm Friday afternoon after another Moscow layover. About £500 for the privilege, this is without considering any visa faffery. And that's into Alamaty to play Aktobe or Kairat (both start in 1QR). If it's Shimkent for FC Ordabasy (also start in 1QR) it's £875 for a one stopper, or £717 for a two-stopper which basically is the same route as above plus an internal Kazakh flight. Pretty sure that would HAVE to be a charter flight jobbie, and we should be grateful all of them have to win two ties just to get to us. Here we go ^^^^^^^ Re: tonight's scores, Apollon Limassol are 4 up after their home leg so they look a safe bet for the next round. Cyprus would be alright... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Maybe the Armenians will pull back a 3 goal deficit next week, then booking flights to Kazak would be a bit of a waste. My biggest problem with the whole "booking flights" is that at the point when we're probably finding out who we're playing, next week, I'm going to be in Rotterdam at De Kuip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 inverness CT would be an easy one to get to. if they get through and we can actually play them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jim Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Vaduz 2-0 up, perhaps a nice trip to Liechtenstein! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laughba Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Does anyone what time the POTS for the drawer (1PM) are released tomorrow... It's at some point in the morning... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 (edited) Does anyone what time the POTS for the draw (1PM) are released tomorrow... It's at some point in the morning... Not 100% sure but it's usually a few hours before the draw, maybe 9am-ish. Edited 16 July, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Charleroi's 5-1 win against Beitar Jerusalem gives us a nice nearby potential tie and all but bumps one of the longer trips out of the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 West Ham are making a meal of it against Birkirkara, who have a keeper that can only parry the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 West Ham are making a meal of it against Birkirkara, who have a keeper that can only parry the ball. I assume there's a stream somewhere? I'm watching Aberdeen, who are 2 up at Rijeka. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint si Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Not 100% sure but it's usually a few hours before the draw, maybe 9am-ish. Also, be aware that's 1pm CET, so the draw is NOON in the UK. Is it 1pm CET or 1pm local time in Switzerland (which would be CET+1)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 So draw tomorrow at 1pm or 2pm Tickets go on sale? 1st leg away on July 30th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 (edited) Is it 1pm CET or 1pm local time in Switzerland (which would be CET+1)? 1pm CET. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2016/draws/index.html That's a good question, the current time in Nyon is an hour ahead of us but it's CET+1 (GMT+2, BST+1)... so, um... maybe it's 1pm actually. Edited 16 July, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 So draw tomorrow at 1pm or 2pm Tickets go on sale? 1st leg away on July 30th? Have you been in a bunker or something? Tickets on sale on Monday irrespective of whether we know who we're playing or not, 1st leg is July 30th and could be home or away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Have you been in a bunker or something? Tickets on sale on Monday irrespective of whether we know who we're playing or not, 1st leg is July 30th and could be home or away. I see. Thanks. Presume we find out tomorrow if home or away on July 30th Really hope the 1st leg is away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 inverness CT would be an easy one to get to. if they get through and we can actually play them There are seventeen teams currently left in the competition who are closer to Southampton than Inverness (albeit some of them don't enter until after the 3QR and some will be out by then). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 There are seventeen teams currently left in the competition who are closer to Southampton than Inverness (albeit some of them don't enter until after the 3QR and some will be out by then). That's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 I see. Thanks. Presume we find out tomorrow if home or away on July 30th Really hope the 1st leg is away Yes, the draw will tell us home/away. All questions are answered here (other than what UEFA are playing at giving the draw time in a timezone that isn't the timezone the draw is being made in)... http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2264495.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Fulham supporting mate went to all their European ties the year they got to the final - including Amkar Perm which was "quite far" http://calculate-distance.com/Southampton,UK/Perm,Russia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 (edited) Quick update on how the ties have gone: These are the unseeded teams... away leaders or home leaders with more than 1 goal lead in bold. • Vitesse • Inverness Caledonian Thistle 0-1 Astra Giurgiu • Cherno More Varna 1-1 Dinamo Minsk • Jablonec • Slovan Bratislava 1-0 UCD • Sturm Graz • AIK 2-0 Shirak • Mladá Boleslav 1-2 Strømsgodset • Ślask Wroclaw 0-0 IFK Göteborg • Dacia Chisinau 1-2 Žilina • AEK Larnaca • Skonto 2-2 Debrecen • Beroe Stara Zagora 0-1 Brøndby • Charleroi 5-1 Beitar Jerusalem • Ironi Kiryat Shmona • Shakhtyor Soligorsk 0-1 Wolfsberger AC • Istanbul Basaksehir • Vojvodina 3-0 Spartaks Jürmala • Spartak Trnava 2-1 Linfield • FH 1-2 Inter Baku • Ferencváros 0-1 Željezničar • Târgu Mures • Shamrock Rovers 0-2 Odd • Rheindorf Altach • Jelgava 1-0 Rabotnički • Vaduz 3-1 Nōmme Kalju • Čukarički 1-0 Gabala • Kukësi 0-1 Mladost Podgorica • Kairat 3-0 Alashkert Edited 16 July, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 That's great. Thought I'd go a little MLG there, I know how people love it. The point being there are easier places to get to than Inverness. I think Charleroi is probably the most likely "near game" at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Would be nice to play Odd just for the fun of it For those of you who are not familiar with them, shame on you ! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odds_BK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 I will be genuinely minorly perturbed if FH lose to Inter Baku. I want to go to Iceland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Linfield would be good, they got a good result there. Shame to see some fans not embracing the true beauty of this competition is drawing teams in the middle of nowhere and the fun you then have trying to get there, the most convenient trip is dull. Shame to see Jerusalem thrashed, they'll need a miracle in 2nd leg back in the holy land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adysaint Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Looks unlikely it will be any team in the British Isles. UCD and Linfield still in the ties with slender 1-0 and 2-1 away defeats but were both playing against 10 men for a considerable spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Please please AIK Stockholm - I can drive there in 1 1/2hrs : ) or Stromsundet in Norway would be fine - about 4hrs drive : ) And Jos now playing for AIK would make the game BIG here in Sweden that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Inverness would be brilliant for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 16 July, 2015 Share Posted 16 July, 2015 Here we go ^^^^^^^ Re: tonight's scores, Apollon Limassol are 4 up after their home leg so they look a safe bet for the next round. Cyprus would be alright... Flights won't be cheap, nice 4.5 hour flight!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Fulham supporting mate went to all their European ties the year they got to the final - including Amkar Perm which was "quite far" http://calculate-distance.com/Southampton,UK/Perm,Russia How much did it cost him altogether? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Charleroi is a sh*t hole. Just putting it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Flights won't be cheap, nice 4.5 hour flight!! Limassol would be a 3 minute drive for me as I'm there now. 39c bloody hot today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Thought I'd go a little MLG there, I know how people love it. The point being there are easier places to get to than Inverness. I think Charleroi is probably the most likely "near game" at the moment. All I said was Inverness would be easy to get to. Not the easiest or the best. Not paid much attention to who we can play but noticed a team in our wider nation is in this competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Even after the draw we may not know where we are going as there are still more games next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 We will be playing one of these: 7 Vitesse (NED) 8 SK Sturm Graz (AUT) 9 R. Charleroi SC (BEL)/Beitar Jerusalem FC (ISL) 10 FK Vojvodina (SRB)/FK Spartaks Jūrmala (LVA) 11 Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)/Odds BK (NOR) 12 FK Kukësi (ALB)/FK Mladost Podgorica (MNE) From here: http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2264495.html#third+qualifying+round+draw+preview Group 1 Seeded: 1 FC Girondins de Bordeaux (FRA) 2 AZ Alkmaar (NED) 3 FC Zürich (SUI) 4 FC Vorksla Poltava (UKR) 5 HNK Rijeka (CRO)/Aberdeen FC (SCO) Unseeded: 6 PFC Cherno More Varna (BUL)/FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) 7 FC Dacia Chisinau (MDA)/MŠK Žilina (SVK) 8 AEK Larnaca FC (CYP) 9 İstanbul Başakşehir (TUR) 10 FC Kairat Almaty (KAZ)/Alashkert FC (ARM) Group 2 Seeded: 1 FC København (DEN)/Newtown AFC (WAL) 2 AS Saint-Étienne (FRA) 3 NK Lokomotiva Zagreb (CRO)/ PAOK FC (GRE) 4 CF Os Belenenses (POR) 5 Hapoel Beer Sheva FC (ISR)/FC Thun (SUI) 6 KR Reykjavík (ISL)/Rosenborg BK (NOR) Unseeded: 7 WKS Śląsk Wrocław (POL)/IFK Göteborg (SWE) 8 FK Jablonec (CZE) 9 Skonto FC (LVA)/Debreceni VSC (HUN) 10 FC Spartak Trnava (SVK)/Linfield FC (NIR) 11 FC Vaduz (LIE)/Nõmme Kalju FC (EST) 12 ASA Târgu Mureş (ROU) Group 3 Seeded: 1 FC Rubin Kazan (RUS) 2 Legia Warszawa (POL)/FC Botoşani (ROU) 3 UC Sampdoria (ITA) 4 Southampton FC (ENG) 5 Randers FC (DEN)/IF Elfsborg (SWE) 6 FC Zorya Luhansk (UKR) Unseeded: 7 Vitesse (NED) 8 SK Sturm Graz (AUT) 9 R. Charleroi SC (BEL)/Beitar Jerusalem FC (ISL) 10 FK Vojvodina (SRB)/FK Spartaks Jūrmala (LVA) 11 Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)/Odds BK (NOR) 12 FK Kukësi (ALB)/FK Mladost Podgorica (MNE) Group 4 Seeded: 1 Atromitos FC (GRE) 2 Apollon Limassol FC (CYP)/FK Trakai (LTU) 3 FC Slovan Liberec (CZE) 4 West Ham United FC (ENG)/Birkirkara FC (MLT) 5 R. Standard de Liège (BEL) 6 Borussia Dortmund (GER) Unseeded: 7 Inverness Caledonian Thistle FC (SCO)/FC Astra Giurgiu (ROU) 8 AIK Solna (SWE)/FC Shirak (ARM) 9 FC Shakhtyor Soligorsk (BLR)/Wolfsberger AC (AUT) 10 Hapoel Kiryat Shmona FC (ISR) 11 Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)/FK Željezničar (BIH) 12 FK Čukarički (SRB)/Qäbälä FK (AZE) Group 5 Seeded: 1 Vitória SC (POR) 2 Trabzonspor AŞ (TUR)/FC Differdange 03 (LUX) 3 Athletic Club (ESP) 4 FC Krasnodar (RUS) 5 NK Koper (SVN)/HNK Hajduk Split (CRO) 6 Jagiellonia Białystok (POL)/AC Omonia (CYP) Unseeded: 7 ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SVK)/University College Dublin AFC (IRL) 8 SCR Altach (AUT) 9 PFC Beroe Stara Zagora (BUL)/Brøndby IF (DEN) 10 FH Hafnarfjördur (ISL)/İnter Bakı PİK (AZE) 11 FK Mladá Boleslav (CZE)/Strømsgodset IF (NOR) 12 FK Jelgava (LVA) v FK Rabotnicki (MKD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 (edited) So on the basis of first leg results it will in all probability be one of: 7 Vitesse (NED) 8 SK Sturm Graz (AUT) 9 R. Charleroi SC (BEL) 10 FK Vojvodina (SRB) 11 Odds BK (NOR) 12 FK Mladost Podgorica (MNE) Bound to be Vitesse on the basis RK has managed them. Mladost Podgorica would probably be the easiest tie (stadium capacity is only 2000). Edited 17 July, 2015 by Katalinic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Cheers, big news that, with Charleroi 5-1 up after first leg and Odd winning 2-0 at Shamrock around half our possible opponents are basically already known. Vojvodina 3 up as well, and Podgorica leading by 1 from the away leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Vitesse or Charleroi please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Bit of a sod for Aberdeen, 3 up in the first leg and the Balkans or Slovakia is the nearest tie they can get, with the possibility of Kazakhstan looming as a 1/6 chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Vitesse or Charleroi please. Boring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillock69 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Current scores from the undecided matches: Charleroi 5 -1 Jerusalem Vojvodina 3-0 Jurmala Shamrock Rovers 0-2 Odd Kukesia 0-1 Porgorica Coefficients: Vitesse (10.195) Sturm Graz (9.135) Charleroi (7.440) Vojvodina (6.275) Shamrock Rovers (5.150) Beitar Jerusalem (4.200) Odd (2.875) Kukësi (2.825) Mladost Podgorica (2.125) Spartaks Jūrmala (0.850) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 How come it's only a small number of possible opponents? How does the draw work? Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 what teams CAN we get in the draw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Flights won't be cheap, nice 4.5 hour flight!! There are LOADS of holiday flights, can get there and back AND a week all inclusive for £300, not that we can play them now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 what teams CAN we get in the draw? It's pretty clear in one of the posts above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Don't fancy Sturm Graz or Vitesse at all! Hoping for Odd or Podgorica All from a football / hopes of progression perspective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 (edited) what teams CAN we get in the draw? Only the ones listed. We'll get paired with one of those 6 numbered 7-12 in the same pot as us. There are 6 seeds and 6 unseeded in each pot, they draw one from the seed pot and one from unseeded pot, mix them and pull the home team in first leg first. Because there are 4 sets of pots that number drawing applies across all 4 pots to give us 48 teams in 24 matches, then they draw the remaining pot (different number of teams) to add the final 5 matches. But because you can only play a team in your pot, our possible opponents are narrowed down already. As for any other questions about the draw, read the thread. Edited 17 July, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pillock69 Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Estimated Flight prices assuming we're playing first leg away: Vitesse: £100 to Amsterdam + Train Costs (will be super cheap to arrange bus travel there) Sturm Graz: £200 to Vienna + Train Costs Charleroi: £120 to Brussels + Train Costs (will be super cheap to arrange bus travel there) Vojvodina: £230 to Belgrade + Train Costs Shamrock Rovers: Super duper cheap bus would be easy to get on Beitar Jerusalem: £380 + Other Travel Costs Odd: £92 to Oslo + 3 Hour Train Costs Kukesi: £350 to Tirana + A lot of other travel costs to go north Podgorica: £400 direct Jurmala: £180 to Riga, minimal travel costs after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 July, 2015 Share Posted 17 July, 2015 Group 3 unseeded teams seem the toughest pot. Got to be hoping for Odd IMO. At the end of the day, with the PL starting, we want the easiest possible route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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