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Can anyone please tell me how much the train costs from Amsterdam to Arnhem and how far Amsterdam train station is from the airport? Thanks

Direct train from Schipol airport to Arnhem which is directly underneath the airport terminal. Costs about €35 return

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Can anyone please tell me how much the train costs from Amsterdam to Arnhem and how far Amsterdam train station is from the airport? Thanks

 

Schipol airport has its own station right underneath the airport (all well signed). Automated Ticket machines are easy to find & use (in Englush & take credit cards).

 

We paid 14 euros each way for intercity express to Rotterdam(took 20 mins), normal fare was 12 euros.

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Schipol airport has its own station right underneath the airport (all well signed). Automated Ticket machines are easy to find & use (in Englush & take credit cards).

 

We paid 14 euros each way for intercity express to Rotterdam(took 20 mins), normal fare was 12 euros.

"Reisplanner" app is worth downloading. Gives time and info on platforms etc

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I'd download b-europe app instead, Belgian website with the exact same format as the Dutch site and all the same information, but allows pre-printing of tickets and payment via card in advance. I've had my trains booked for weeks, very flexible tickets.

 

The one problem we had getting to De Kuip last week was the bloody Dutch ticket machines at the train station, which are random as hell and would not give me what I needed despite being multi-language. I think afterwards I worked out that the discrepancy in the price was due to it automatically charging me for a travelcard (possibly an OV-chipkaart, but don't quote me on that), which you don't need to buy at all if you pre-book and pre-print.

 

Also, if someone Dutch could give some advice about whether that ov-chipkaart IS the one you need for travel between cities in Netherlands, or what else you'd need to get, that would be handy. But I suspect they're all off here now they've already visited. :D

 

I have just looked in my wallet, which currently contains Euros, ov-chipkaart for Rotterdam and GVB tram card from Amsterdam, tickets for the match, debit cards and my season tickets. 3 days away yet! :D

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You can get deals on the trains similar to the 4 for 2 or 4 for 3 deals that we used to have here. Last week it cost only 10 euros each for our return trip by train to Rotterdam and I think this week our Dutch friend has got us tickets to Arnhem for 8 Euros each.

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Just wondering really, but who do you think is covering the cost of the "fanzone" in Arnhem (assuming there is one)?

 

I'm guessing its one of: Hants Police, Dutch Police, Saints, Vitesse or Arnhem Town Council?

Mainly the council and tourist board, if they're even separate entities, I'd have thought. Maybe a sponsor if there's only one brand of beer on sale or something like that?

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I will be heavily reliant on the bus services in Arnhem with my hotel being quite a way from the GelreDome, my hotel is in Bakenbergseweg (?) Can any one help with what buses to get? (If it ends up being too much hassle I might just get a taxi!)

 

Trolleybus 105 goes from Bakenbergseweg to the centre of Arnhem.

http://9292.nl/en/journeyadvice/arnhem_bakenbergseweg/arnhem_jansplaats/departure/2015-08-03T1610

 

Me....... I'd take a taxi!

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@SouthamptonFC 2 minutes ago

The eligibility criteria for official travel to @MijnVitesse has been updated – http://sfcne.ws/VitesseA060815 #saintsfc

 

Season Ticket holders who attended five away games last season now qualify to purchase a package, which includes a match ticket. #saintsfc

 

Only 167 travel club spaces, which they predicted would sell out quickly, and they're still trying to shift them. Just put the tickets on general sale.

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It's not really? Those with 7 aways can still get one as part of the package? The club have put a few aside for travel packages. You would be moaning if the club didn't offer any sort of package at all.

 

If there are some left, they will go on general ticket only sale.

 

Of course it's a complete joke, mental for anyone to suggest otherwise. Very poor from the club.

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I'd download b-europe app instead, Belgian website with the exact same format as the Dutch site and all the same information, but allows pre-printing of tickets and payment via card in advance. I've had my trains booked for weeks, very flexible tickets.

 

The one problem we had getting to De Kuip last week was the bloody Dutch ticket machines at the train station, which are random as hell and would not give me what I needed despite being multi-language. I think afterwards I worked out that the discrepancy in the price was due to it automatically charging me for a travelcard (possibly an OV-chipkaart, but don't quote me on that), which you don't need to buy at all if you pre-book and pre-print.

 

Also, if someone Dutch could give some advice about whether that ov-chipkaart IS the one you need for travel between cities in Netherlands, or what else you'd need to get, that would be handy. But I suspect they're all off here now they've already visited. :D

 

I have just looked in my wallet, which currently contains Euros, ov-chipkaart for Rotterdam and GVB tram card from Amsterdam, tickets for the match, debit cards and my season tickets. 3 days away yet! :D

Thanks for that. All sorted with mobile tickets - no need even to print.

 

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Hello all,

 

I'm a long time viewer of the forum, but only just registered. I'm doing the same as a lot of you one here, have tickets in the vittesse end.

 

I contacted vittesse who have said that the tickets have been sent out and if they do not arrive before Wednesday, email them and they will duplicate them to pick up at the ground.

 

So all this talk of stuff being cancelled is obviously rubbish, but seems they are going to be ok with picking up on the day if they have not arrived via post.

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It's not really? Those with 7 aways can still get one as part of the package? The club have put a few aside for travel packages. You would be moaning if the club didn't offer any sort of package at all.

 

If there are some left, they will go on general ticket only sale.

 

it's more than a few tickets, it is over 10% of the away allocation being reserved for a organised trip that was announced so late anyone who was thinking of going had already booked up travel independently. The ironic thing of this is we could be left with empty seats in the away end when hundreds of fans who met the criteria would have loved to purchase them.

 

if they try pulling a stunt like this again for an away game where we have an even smaller allocation there will be a lot of angry regular away fans missing out.

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It's not really? Those with 7 aways can still get one as part of the package? The club have put a few aside for travel packages. You would be moaning if the club didn't offer any sort of package at all.

 

If there are some left, they will go on general ticket only sale.

 

I certainly wouldn't be moaning. Quite why people are incapable of organising travel to Holland themselves is frankly bizarre.

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Hello all,

 

I'm a long time viewer of the forum, but only just registered. I'm doing the same as a lot of you one here, have tickets in the vittesse end.

 

I contacted vittesse who have said that the tickets have been sent out and if they do not arrive before Wednesday, email them and they will duplicate them to pick up at the ground.

 

So all this talk of stuff being cancelled is obviously rubbish, but seems they are going to be ok with picking up on the day if they have not arrived via post.

 

Not sure uefa would be too impressed with that, so maybe they're planning on making an announcement at the game that any Saints fans who make themselves known will be moved into the away end? I remember that happening once before somewhere.

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Of course it's poor.

Match tickets should not be tied in to these packages.

I don't entirely disagree, but you could not really sell a travel package that did not include a match ticket? So its inevitable that they keep as many match tickets as travel packages, otherwise they would not be able to sell the travel package. If they didn't offer a travel package then there would be uproar. Club can't win really.

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Not sure uefa would be too impressed with that, so maybe they're planning on making an announcement at the game that any Saints fans who make themselves known will be moved into the away end? I remember that happening once before somewhere.

 

True, and valid point. Just like some of the espanyol fans on Sunday.

 

The post was more aimed at the people who have purchased ticket in the home sections, that were worried about the tickets getting cancelled or refused entry, which seems to not be the case.

 

Fully expect to get segregated when in the stadium though

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I don't entirely disagree, but you could not really sell a travel package that did not include a match ticket? So its inevitable that they keep as many match tickets as travel packages, otherwise they would not be able to sell the travel package. If they didn't offer a travel package then there would be uproar. Club can't win really.

 

The Club have to be flexible and consider the context of each game. It should be obvious that a trip to Holland will mean more travelling independently and less requiring official travel.

 

Plus delaying the announcement of the official travel and price being quite steep means the demand was not going to be that high.

 

With people starting to travel on Wednesday, let's hope it's not too long before they make tickets available without having to do the official tour.

 

(I had one mate who was even considering buying the coach deal just to get the ticket and then fly, but apparently you only get the ticket during the journey!!!!)

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I don't entirely disagree, but you could not really sell a travel package that did not include a match ticket? So its inevitable that they keep as many match tickets as travel packages, otherwise they would not be able to sell the travel package. If they didn't offer a travel package then there would be uproar. Club can't win really.

 

That's fine at the beginning of the sale but now 3 days before the game it's wrong as they will not sell them now.

They could of continued to drop the restriction day by day rather than waiting to the last minute.

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Not sure uefa would be too impressed with that, so maybe they're planning on making an announcement at the game that any Saints fans who make themselves known will be moved into the away end? I remember that happening once before somewhere.

 

Exeter? They ended up cordoning off a section behind the goal in their biggest end for Saints fans and escorted plenty more from the side stands onto the terrace.

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Buying a card cost 7.50euro

 

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I was trying to work out if the €7.50 charge makes it worth getting one or not but then gave up.

 

Do they check tickets on the trams in Amsterdam? Last time I was there I just hopped on and off without paying figuring I could plead ignorance if asked for a ticket.

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There are 4 games tomorrow in the Champions League so I thought I'd summarise the situation regarding which teams we want to win in those matches to ensure the best possible chances of us being seeded in the play-off round.

 

Southampton's co-efficient is 16.078 so we need teams in the Champions League with a higher co-efficient than that to win their leg and teams with a lower co-efficient to lose. The losers of each Champions League tie will be in the play-off round for the Europa League.

 

Monaco (31.483) v Young Boys (31.375) - It doesn't really matter because both teams have a higher co-efficient than Saints. Monaco won the first leg 3-1 so it seems likely that Young Boys will drop into the Europa League.

 

APOEL (35.460) v Midtjylland (7.960) - APOEL won the first leg 2-1 so it looks likely that Midtjylland will drop into the Europa League, which is a good news from our point of view.

 

Molde (10.375) v Dinamo Zagreb (24.700) - The first leg ended in a 1-1 draw. Molde have an away goal but we could do with a Dinamo Zagreb win.

 

Ajax (66.195) v Rapid Wien (15.635) - The first leg ended in a 2-2 draw. Ajax have two away goals so are in a decent position to win their leg, which is what we want.

 

So to clarify, in tomorrow's Champions League matches, we want wins for APOEL, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

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Hello all,

 

I'm a long time viewer of the forum, but only just registered. I'm doing the same as a lot of you one here, have tickets in the vittesse end.

 

I contacted vittesse who have said that the tickets have been sent out and if they do not arrive before Wednesday, email them and they will duplicate them to pick up at the ground.

 

So all this talk of stuff being cancelled is obviously rubbish, but seems they are going to be ok with picking up on the day if they have not arrived via post.

 

Thanks for the note - what email address should we send that to if they don't arrive?

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Hello all,

 

I'm a long time viewer of the forum, but only just registered. I'm doing the same as a lot of you one here, have tickets in the vittesse end.

 

I contacted vittesse who have said that the tickets have been sent out and if they do not arrive before Wednesday, email them and they will duplicate them to pick up at the ground.

 

So all this talk of stuff being cancelled is obviously rubbish, but seems they are going to be ok with picking up on the day if they have not arrived via post.

 

On the face of it this sounds like good news for those of us who've booked tickets in the home areas. However, I can't help wondering why they're spending money on setting up a big screen if they're going to allow away fans in with the home. A quick check on Vitesse's Ticketbox shows there are loads of seats left in most parts of the ground so anyone wanting a ticket will be able to get one and will not need to watch it on the screen, if the above is true.

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On the face of it this sounds like good news for those of us who've booked tickets in the home areas. However, I can't help wondering why they're spending money on setting up a big screen if they're going to allow away fans in with the home. A quick check on Vitesse's Ticketbox shows there are loads of seats left in most parts of the ground so anyone wanting a ticket will be able to get one and will not need to watch it on the screen, if the above is true.

 

In all honesty, unless we are all rocking up with saints shirts on, there's no way they are going to tell between us and Arnhem fans. If I pick the tickets up, a nod of the head and a smile will do

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That's a bit of a joke. There are ST holders with 7 aways who missed out. Now someone with 5 aways can get one with a travel package?!

 

The ones with 7 aways have been able to buy that exact travel package for a week without those with less than that being able to buy it.

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Buying a ov chipkaart might be handy. Everyone in Holland use them, there are machines on the stations and schiphol aswell where you can upload money on the card. You can use the card on busses/trains etc.

 

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Buying a card cost 7.50euro

 

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G800F met Tapatalk

 

Thanks - I think for most people only visiting for the one match it's probably better to buy the tickets online (if they can) and get either pre-printed or use the QR code you can get through on the b-europe app. I printed mine to prevent any phone battery problems. :)

 

I found it REALLY annoying to have the cost of the card added to the cost of the ticket for very limited use (basically two trains) and decided to get a disposable one instead, it more than doubled the price of the journey to pay for the card AND the train and the disposable ones don't charge a "card" fee - might be useful if anyone is planning multiple visits to Holland though...

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There are 4 games tomorrow in the Champions League so I thought I'd summarise the situation regarding which teams we want to win in those matches to ensure the best possible chances of us being seeded in the play-off round.

 

Southampton's co-efficient is 16.078 so we need teams in the Champions League with a higher co-efficient than that to win their leg and teams with a lower co-efficient to lose. The losers of each Champions League tie will be in the play-off round for the Europa League.

 

Monaco (31.483) v Young Boys (31.375) - It doesn't really matter because both teams have a higher co-efficient than Saints. Monaco won the first leg 3-1 so it seems likely that Young Boys will drop into the Europa League.

 

APOEL (35.460) v Midtjylland (7.960) - APOEL won the first leg 2-1 so it looks likely that Midtjylland will drop into the Europa League, which is a good news from our point of view.

 

Molde (10.375) v Dinamo Zagreb (24.700) - The first leg ended in a 1-1 draw. Molde have an away goal but we could do with a Dinamo Zagreb win.

 

Ajax (66.195) v Rapid Wien (15.635) - The first leg ended in a 2-2 draw. Ajax have two away goals so are in a decent position to win their leg, which is what we want.

 

So to clarify, in tomorrow's Champions League matches, we want wins for APOEL, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

 

Nice work. :)

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I was trying to work out if the €7.50 charge makes it worth getting one or not but then gave up.

 

Do they check tickets on the trams in Amsterdam? Last time I was there I just hopped on and off without paying figuring I could plead ignorance if asked for a ticket.

 

You have to tap in and out on the trams, the touch pads are like London Tube ones but they're next to the driver or the conductor, you can only get on next to them, and you get off at different doors.

 

It was 6 Euros for a 24 hour card, which is about £4 for unlimited travel, don't be a scabby dog. They will all speak English, and they will also fine you. I didn't get on a tram last week which didn't have at least two people checking. You CAN buy a ticket on the tram itself, but if you're getting on more than one of them you're better off getting the 24, 48 or 72 hour card anyway. Time starts from first check-in.

 

You can buy the GVB cards for the Amsterdam local transport from a machine on the right as you go into the white pavilion-looking hut across the tramlines to the left as you come out of the front of Amsterdam Centraal Station - and probably from the concourse in Centraal as well, though I didn't check that.

 

The 7.50 Euro OV-chipkaart seems to be primarily for overland train travel, but it also worked on the RET (trams, buses etc) in Rotterdam , let's put it like that... though I have no idea if it would have been valid in Amsterdam on the GVB!

 

Suffice to say once you know you're getting nailed 7.50 Euros for a permanent "Oyster-style" card, you tend to look for other ways to get a valid ticket.

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Post has just arrived this morning and still no sign of the ticket for the home end that I ordered the day after the draw was made.

 

I've emailed Vitesse asking if they can reprint it and send to my hotel in Arnhem.

I now have a ticket in the saints section but would like to be able to pass it on the block 122 to someone who might be without and really don't want to have to go to the stadium during the day to collect it. (I'll be wearing my saints shirt so not sure they'd let me collect a home section ticket lol)

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There are 4 games tomorrow in the Champions League so I thought I'd summarise the situation regarding which teams we want to win in those matches to ensure the best possible chances of us being seeded in the play-off round.

 

Southampton's co-efficient is 16.078 so we need teams in the Champions League with a higher co-efficient than that to win their leg and teams with a lower co-efficient to lose. The losers of each Champions League tie will be in the play-off round for the Europa League.

 

Monaco (31.483) v Young Boys (31.375) - It doesn't really matter because both teams have a higher co-efficient than Saints. Monaco won the first leg 3-1 so it seems likely that Young Boys will drop into the Europa League.

 

APOEL (35.460) v Midtjylland (7.960) - APOEL won the first leg 2-1 so it looks likely that Midtjylland will drop into the Europa League, which is a good news from our point of view.

 

Molde (10.375) v Dinamo Zagreb (24.700) - The first leg ended in a 1-1 draw. Molde have an away goal but we could do with a Dinamo Zagreb win.

 

Ajax (66.195) v Rapid Wien (15.635) - The first leg ended in a 2-2 draw. Ajax have two away goals so are in a decent position to win their leg, which is what we want.

 

So to clarify, in tomorrow's Champions League matches, we want wins for APOEL, Dinamo Zagreb and Ajax.

 

I would've assumed we would want the opposite. We're borderline at the moment, the more teams with a higher co-efficient would push us into the bottom half and we'd be unseeded, no? How do this work then?

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