Marsdinho Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Obviously, this could be a bit short lived, especially now that I have started this thread....anyway. I'm a bit of a nerd at times, and have a particular interest in maps / geography etc; so, over the last week or so, I have mapped all of the grounds of the teams taking part in this season's Europa League (I know, its sad!) If you click on the link below, you should be able to see the locations in Google Maps. Some of the locations may be incorrect, if a team has built a new ground recently, or they play in a different stadium for Euro games for example. I am prepared to be MLG'd on this and will try and correct any mistakes. As I was doing it, I did think that (once we know who we are playing) it may be useful in planning travel, or even finding where hotels / pubs are in relation to the ground etc. Like I say, it may of use to some.... Some "interesting" observations: - Sturm Graz have a Hooters attached to the stadium! - FC Batumi's ground is about 100 meters from the black sea, bring your Speedo's. - FC Kairat is only about 270 kms from China, and is further away than most of Iran and Afghanistan! https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z-oVzRKP0zxY.kq10sHl2JPmk&usp=sharing I'll try and keep it updated as the tournament progresses and may include extra data like hotels, pubs etc once we have more details. I guess this thread could be where we share any travel info we may find, like hotel deals, flights, trains, boats etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Thanks for taking the time to do that and good idea about sharing travel info closer to the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Really appreciate the effort that's gone on the map - really interesting seeing the potential destinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Interesting, cheers! If you think Kairat is a long way then at least we can't get Vladivostok! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Big saturday night Marsy old chap?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Obviously, this could be a bit short lived, especially now that I have started this thread....anyway. I'm a bit of a nerd at times, and have a particular interest in maps / geography etc; so, over the last week or so, I have mapped all of the grounds of the teams taking part in this season's Europa League (I know, its sad!) If you click on the link below, you should be able to see the locations in Google Maps. Some of the locations may be incorrect, if a team has built a new ground recently, or they play in a different stadium for Euro games for example. I am prepared to be MLG'd on this and will try and correct any mistakes. As I was doing it, I did think that (once we know who we are playing) it may be useful in planning travel, or even finding where hotels / pubs are in relation to the ground etc. Like I say, it may of use to some.... Some "interesting" observations: - Sturm Graz have a Hooters attached to the stadium! - FC Batumi's ground is about 100 meters from the black sea, bring your Speedo's. - FC Kairat is only about 270 kms from China, and is further away than most of Iran and Afghanistan! https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z-oVzRKP0zxY.kq10sHl2JPmk&usp=sharing I'll try and keep it updated as the tournament progresses and may include extra data like hotels, pubs etc once we have more details. I guess this thread could be where we share any travel info we may find, like hotel deals, flights, trains, boats etc. Fair play, that is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Very good, and some teams even more obscure than Southampton! I'd hate to admit how many I hadn't heard of! Worth a pint of anybody's money, although not at Norwegian prices.;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 That's really good. Thank you. FC Kairat it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 That's really good. Thank you. FC Kairat it is then. Quite fancy a trip to Almaty and quite fancy Kairat, seeing as I'm managing them to glory on FM15. Yagshemash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 I wonder what Iceland is like in july? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Obviously, this could be a bit short lived, especially now that I have started this thread....anyway. I'm a bit of a nerd at times, and have a particular interest in maps / geography etc; so, over the last week or so, I have mapped all of the grounds of the teams taking part in this season's Europa League (I know, its sad!) If you click on the link below, you should be able to see the locations in Google Maps. Some of the locations may be incorrect, if a team has built a new ground recently, or they play in a different stadium for Euro games for example. I am prepared to be MLG'd on this and will try and correct any mistakes. As I was doing it, I did think that (once we know who we are playing) it may be useful in planning travel, or even finding where hotels / pubs are in relation to the ground etc. Like I say, it may of use to some.... Some "interesting" observations: - Sturm Graz have a Hooters attached to the stadium! - FC Batumi's ground is about 100 meters from the black sea, bring your Speedo's. - FC Kairat is only about 270 kms from China, and is further away than most of Iran and Afghanistan! https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=z-oVzRKP0zxY.kq10sHl2JPmk&usp=sharing I'll try and keep it updated as the tournament progresses and may include extra data like hotels, pubs etc once we have more details. I guess this thread could be where we share any travel info we may find, like hotel deals, flights, trains, boats etc. Are you going to update that after each round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Dude if the NERD is strong enough in you can you keep up dating the first post as a point of reference. As CB says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Can you imagine trying to organise FC Kairat away with about 6 days notice?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 15 of those Europa League sides aren't in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 20 June, 2015 Share Posted 20 June, 2015 Looking forward to it. Lots of grounds I haven't been to before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 I can see the FC Kairat messageboards saying "I hope we don't draw Southampton FC, it's ****ing miles away!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLiam Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 15 of those Europa League sides aren't in Europe Israel are in the Euro qualifiers too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsland Codger Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 15 of those Europa League sides aren't in Europe And one of them is in Perth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Can you imagine trying to organise FC Kairat away with about 6 days notice?! Near on impossible! We might get a bit more of a clearer picture of who's likely to be in our draw after tomorrow's 1st and 2nd round draws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Fair play, that map is brilliant. Seriously, you can keep the Champions League. This is where the action is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoozer Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Not sure I fancy Hapoel Ironi Kiryat Shmona F.C to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Great map! An idea. You could do different coloured flags for teams entering in different rounds or teams Saints could or could not play because of seeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Near on impossible! We might get a bit more of a clearer picture of who's likely to be in our draw after tomorrow's 1st and 2nd round draws. Following on from that, the Wikipedia page has been really well updated to show who will be seeded in the 3rd round. Useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellify Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Good effort that, would be useful to update it after each round, if that's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Quite fancy a trip to Almaty and quite fancy Kairat, seeing as I'm managing them to glory on FM15. Yagshemash. If we're lucky it will coincide with Almaty folk festival and we can take in Right Said Fred and Corky Bulzseck whilst we're there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Really looking forward to a European tour. Just hope it lasts more than one game like last time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 drawn with Red Star Belgrade would be pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 I wonder what Iceland is like in july? Was there last July....pleasant temperatures, rained once in two weeks and never went dark! Expensive though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 drawn with Red Star Belgrade would be pretty cool [emoji106] that would do nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Was there last July....pleasant temperatures, rained once in two weeks and never went dark! Expensive though.... I think an influx of a few hundred Saints fans, each with a bottle of duty free could make quite a good party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 I wonder what Iceland is like in july? Reminiscent of Lidl in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Not sure I fancy Hapoel Ironi Kiryat Shmona F.C to be honest. One of the more likely opponents at the moment as it happens, they're already in the 3QR AND they're already unseeded whilst we're seeded. I'd just like to extend a massive thanks to the OP for doing this, the mentalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Following on from that, the Wikipedia page has been really well updated to show who will be seeded in the 3rd round. Useful. Happened a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 (edited) Here's a list of the teams in the 3QR we CAN'T play in that round: Germany Borussia Dortmund CC: 99.883 Russia Rubin Kazan CC: 57.099 Spain Athletic Bilbao CC: 56.999 Netherlands AZ CC: 46.695 Winners of match involving Denmark Copenhagen CC: 40.960 Winners of match involving Greece PAOK CC: 40.880 Winners of match involving Turkey Trabzonspor CC: 36.520 Belgium Standard Liège CC: 25.440 Winners of match involving Poland Legia Warsaw CC: 24.800 France Bordeaux CC: 24.483 Italy Sampdoria CC: 18.102 Portugal Vitória de Guimarães CC: 17.776 France Saint-Étienne CC: 16.983 Switzerland Zürich CC: 16.875 Czech Republic Slovan Liberec CC: 16.325 England Southampton CC: 16.078 (obviously) Russia Krasnodar CC: 15.099 Winners of match involving Croatia Rijeka CC: 13.700 Portugal Belenenses CC: 12.276 Ukraine Vorskla Poltava CC: 11.033 Ukraine Zorya Luhansk CC: 10.533 Greece Atromitos CC: 10.380 And here are the teams we are more likely to be playing (lots of TBCs here due to the unseeded sides mostly coming from 2QR): Unseeded teams Winners of match involving Poland Śląsk Wrocław or first round opponent CC: ≤8.800 Winners of match involving Slovakia Žilina or first round opponent CC: ≤8.750 Winners of match involving Kazakhstan Aktobe or first round opponent CC: ≤8.575 Cyprus AEK Larnaca CC: 8.460 Winners of match involving Netherlands Go Ahead Eagles or first round opponent CC: ≤8.195 Winners of match involving Serbia Red Star Belgrade or first round opponent CC: ≤7.775 Winners of match involving Hungary Debrecen or first round opponent CC: ≤7.700 Winners of match involving Denmark Brøndby or first round opponent CC: ≤7.460 Winners of match involving Belgium Charleroi CC: 7.440 Israel Ironi Kiryat Shmona CC: 7.200 Winners of match involving Belarus Shakhtyor Soligorsk or first round opponent CC: ≤7.150 Winners of match involving Georgia (country) Dinamo Tbilisi or first round opponent CC: ≤6.875 Winners of match involving Bulgaria Litex Lovech or first round opponent CC: ≤6.850 Turkey İstanbul Başakşehir CC: 6.520 Winners of match involving Serbia Vojvodina or first round opponent CC: ≤6.275 Winners of match involving Slovakia Spartak Trnava or first round opponent CC: ≤6.250 Winners of match involving Iceland FH or first round opponent CC: ≤6.100 Romania Târgu Mureș CC: 5.259 Austria Rheindorf Altach CC: 5.135 Plus some may or may not be seeded depending on what happens in the first 2 rounds: Seeding TBD (the 7 highest coefficients from these teams/ties at the time of the 2QR will be seeded, meaning we can't play them in 3QR). Winners of match involving England West Ham United or first round opponent CC: ≤16.078 (we can't play them anyway, even if it's not West Ham and they lose in the 2QR, as the draw is made before the winner is known, but we can play "first round opponent" in the unlikely event they lose to some semi-pros in early July) Winners of match involving Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol or first round opponent CC: ≤14.500 Winners of match involving Norway Rosenborg or first round opponent CC: ≤11.875 Winners of match involving Sweden Elfsborg or first round opponent CC: ≤11.545 Winners of match involving Croatia Hajduk Split or first round opponent CC: ≤11.200 Winners of match involving Cyprus Apollon Limassol or first round opponent CC: ≤10.460 Winners of match involving Cyprus Omonia or first round opponent CC: ≤10.460 Winners of match involving Switzerland Thun CC: 10.375 Netherlands Vitesse CC: 10.195 Winners of match involving Romania Astra Giurgiu CC: 9.759 Winners of match involving Belarus Dinamo Minsk CC: 9.650 Czech Republic Jablonec CC: 9.325 Winners of match involving Slovakia Slovan Bratislava or first round opponent CC: ≤9.250 Austria Sturm Graz CC: 9.135 Winners of match involving Sweden AIK or first round opponent CC: ≤9.045 Winners of match involving Azerbaijan Neftchi Baku or first round opponent CC: ≤9.000 Winners of match involving Czech Republic Mladá Boleslav CC: 8.825 Anyway... Edited 21 June, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Red Star Belgrade, Brondby, Dinamo Tblisi all sound annoyingly lose-able. Entirely because I'd heard of them. I'd heard of Steau Bucharest as well. So, stands to reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 FWIW I think even I'd baulk at Kazakhstan. Just tapped in the commercial flights, leave London at 18:35 on Wednesday, 17 hours flight time with a layover in Moscow in order to arrive at 17:15 on matchday and then fly back at 6am on the Friday morning arriving back at Heathrow at 4pm Friday afternoon after another Moscow layover. About £500 for the privilege, this is without considering any visa faffery. And that's into Alamaty to play Aktobe or Kairat (both start in 1QR). If it's Shimkent for FC Ordabasy (also start in 1QR) it's £875 for a one stopper, or £717 for a two-stopper which basically is the same route as above plus an internal Kazakh flight. Pretty sure that would HAVE to be a charter flight jobbie, and we should be grateful all of them have to win two ties just to get to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Red Star Belgrade, Brondby, Dinamo Tblisi all sound annoyingly lose-able. Entirely because I'd heard of them. I'd heard of Steaua Bucharest as well. So, stands to reason. Luckily most of them except Brondby are relatively poo® nowadays and the eastern europeans are not a patch on their iron curtain days. Going on our last European draw luck we'd (again) pull the only European Cup winners in the competition who we could actually draw at that stage, which is indeed FK Crvena Zvezda aka Red Star Belgrade. Though Dortmund are also in there we can't get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lickierambert Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Luckily most of them except Brondby are relatively poo® nowadays and the eastern europeans are not a patch on their iron curtain days. Going on our last European draw luck we'd (again) pull the only European Cup winners in the competition who we could actually draw at that stage, which is indeed FK Crvena Zvezda aka Red Star Belgrade. Though Dortmund are also in there we can't get them. Let's not beat around the bush. It would be an awful result if we can't win against the unseeded 3RQ teams over two legs. The play off will be much tougher, especially if we're not seeded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 Let's not beat around the bush. It would be an awful result if we can't win against the unseeded 3RQ teams over two legs. The play off will be much tougher, especially if we're not seeded Some tricky ties against possible unseeded teams in the 3QR, we could get FC Thun, Rosenborg, Elfsborg or FC Sheriff (though Sheriff will probably be seeded they may not be), all of whom have recent Champions League pedigree, also Slovan Bratislava and Hajduk Split who have long-standing European experience. But yeah, mostly we'd expect to win the tie. FWIW I just looked and Azerbaijan offers no Accor chain hotels, a Wednesday flight out and an overnight transfer in Latvia on the way out for about £400 (direct) return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 21 June, 2015 Share Posted 21 June, 2015 I'd just like to extend a massive thanks to the OP for doing this, the mentalist. And there was I thinking exactly the same about you! Either way, if I do make it to any away game I'll stand you both a drink! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 First Qualifying Round draw later today btw, that should start to give us an idea of who isn't getting anywhere (and can be greyed out [?]) on the map? And yeah, I know what a pain it can be to change all the icons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 (edited) A quick break down of Visa Requirements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_European_Union_citizens PLEASE NOTE THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY, YOU MUST CHECK FOR YOURSELVES BEFORE TRAVELLING, AND I WILL NOT BE HELD LIABLE FOR GENERAL ASSHATTEDNESS ON THIS FRONT, DEPORTATION, SALT MINES, KIDNAPPING OR ANY STATELESS SCENARIOS LIKE THAT ONE IN THE FILM THE TERMINAL. Visas Required for EU residents: Azerbaijan Belarus (though they do limited visa on arrival if documents are with them 3 days before travel) Russia Visas Required for UK citizens (but not all EU residents) Turkey (can apply online; also limited visa on arrival, being phased out). TBC Kazakhstan (pre-approved visa pick-up has been possible previously, a visa-free pilot is running until 15 July 2015) Visas not required for EU citizens: basically everywhere else EU Countries: Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, United Kingdom (inc Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales) Non-European UEFA nations: Armenia, Georgia, Israel. Non-EU UEFA nations: Albania, Andorra, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Faroe Islands, Macedonia, Moldova, Montenegro, Monaco, San Marino, Serbia, Ukraine Non-EU UEFA nations who are European Free Trade Agreement Members: Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway. Non-EU UEFA nations who have a separate freedom of movement agreement: Switzerland. Non-EU nations in disputed areas who probably haven't got teams in this anyway: Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Kosovo, South Ossetia, Transnistria. Non-EU UEFA nations who are an overseas territory of the UK: Gibraltar I think that's everywhere... Edited 22 June, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 I'm going to be in Iceland on August 6th already! But unfortunately fly out again that afternoon, so it would probably be before the match if we happened to get drawn against an Icelandic team. But given that it's a small possibility, I'm going to check my flight booking terms and conditions to see about the possibility for changing to a flight the next day... would be so frustrating to be in Iceland on the same day as the match but not be able to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 Looks like the club will be assisting travel arrangements for away games this season: http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13345689.Saints_pledge_to_help_fans__European_away_days/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 Looks like the club will be assisting travel arrangements for away games this season: http://m.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/13345689.Saints_pledge_to_help_fans__European_away_days/ Sounds as though they may decide to screen the away games at St Mary's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 You can watch the draws live here http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/newsid=2258734.html 12.00 for the first qualifying round with the second qualifying round draw at 1.30pm Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 Saints have a seeding of 16.078 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2016/accesslist/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 I'm going to be in Iceland on August 6th already! But unfortunately fly out again that afternoon, so it would probably be before the match if we happened to get drawn against an Icelandic team. But given that it's a small possibility, I'm going to check my flight booking terms and conditions to see about the possibility for changing to a flight the next day... would be so frustrating to be in Iceland on the same day as the match but not be able to go. Well, all the teams are in Reykjavic so that should help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 West Ham will be playing one of this lot: Qäbälä FK (AZE) KF Renova (MNE) FC Lusitans (AND) Newtown AFC (WAL) FK Olimpic Sarajevo (BIH) I suspect they'll be begging for Newtown or Lusitans of Andorra for convenience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 June, 2015 Share Posted 22 June, 2015 Saints have a seeding of 16.078 http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/season=2016/accesslist/index.html Mentioned in post 34. (And on the previous two threads about this stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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