SaintLiam Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Woy should have been sacked after Brazil. He showed how inept and devoid of ideas he was, so he ain't suddenly going to change. Looks like we'll just have to wait till we go out at the group stages next year.
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 We are a good, not great, side. We achieve about what we should expect to do. We are, as it goes, the best team in qualifying if you take the stats for what they are. We have some decent young players in and around the side. The Netherlands has a population of just 16.8 million, Germamy 80, France 66, Italy 59, and Spain 47. England has a population of 53 million we haven't made the semis of a world cup in 24 years that is not achieving what we should do. Something is very wrong with the game in this country, well not something, many things.
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 If there's one incident which totally sums up England it's Calum Chambers. Didn't get a look in after a string of very good performances for Saints two years ago. Then last season he signs for Arsenal and bang, straight into the England team after two games. The team is riddled with that kind of thing. Rooney on the left side at the World Cup instead of Lallana. Utterly bizarre.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 It's all a bit of a joke isn't it. Laughable really. So sh!t.
UpweySaint Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 The Netherlands has a population of just 16.8 million' date=' Germamy 80, France 66, Italy 59, and Spain 47. England has a population of 53 million we haven't made the semis of a world cup in 24 years that is not achieving what we should do. Something is very wrong with the game in this country, well not something, many things.[/quote'] That is absurd logic. Why are China, Russia and the USA not in your figures? Simply not how it works. We all know there are issues with our national game but why people expect us to be all conquering despite these issues is beyond me!
alpine_saint Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Hope my neighbours over the border give England a right shoeing after that criminal team selection...
Golac's Iron Gonads Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 That is absurd logic. Why are China, Russia and the USA not in your figures? Simply not how it works. We all know there are issues with our national game but why people expect us to be all conquering despite these issues is beyond me! Not the national sport in 2 of those countries, granted Russia's disappointing record is a conundrum, I chose those countries because they are European, have similar sized populations and historically strong domestic league competitions. Since England last graced a semi final 4 of those 5 have won the competition, Italy, France and Germany have been in 2 finals each. Other national teams that have made the world cup semis since England last did include Sweden, Bulgaria, South Korea, Turkey, Croatia, Uruguay. We are not performing as well as we should be, I don't expect us to be all conquering but it's a similar record in the Euros, it's poor stuff!
supersonic Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Always worth a laugh this forum and the #Saintsfc hashtag on twitter at England games. If RH doesn't select the who Saints team he's clueless....
krissyboy31 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 That is absurd logic. Why are China, Russia and the USA not in your figures? Simply not how it works. We all know there are issues with our national game but why people expect us to be all conquering despite these issues is beyond me! You do not think England are perennial under performers?
BotleySaint Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Bit strange that Clyne has been dropped really. Must have looked poor in training.
The Cat Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 My 9yo "I don't really care if England win or not, it's just England, not Saints"
sadoldgit Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Holland are supposed to be all that's good about football. How many World Cups have they won?
St.JonB Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Is this Andy Townsend's last game? And hopefully his 'decent for England' sons last game as well.
Saint Charlie Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 England so much better with Wilshere in midfield, only central midfielder we have with the required composure and technique.
The9 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 I'm watching the Man U "Class of 92" film in preference at the moment. Granty's at his 5th match in 3 days, or something mad like that, over there.
krissyboy31 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 (edited) Holland are supposed to be all that's good about football. How many World Cups have they won? Been in more finals than England, France or Spain. They've also won the Euros and we've never made the final it that. Edited 14 June, 2015 by krissyboy31
nta786 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Bit strange that Clyne has been dropped really. Must have looked poor in training. Nope- it's obvious why Roy didn't give Clyne a game. It's because he isn't at a top 4 club. Roy has told him that to play- you have to go to Man U. So basically, Roy is integral to helping the top 4 clubs tap up our players, and ultimately, means Clyne will leave. #andrantover Lol soz guys im just pis*ed off and angry and literally that was my thinking right now. I actually hope we lose- Roy needs to go. Simple as that.
mattsbignose Posted 14 June, 2015 Author Posted 14 June, 2015 Always worth a laugh this forum and the #Saintsfc hashtag on twitter at England games. If RH doesn't select the who Saints team he's clueless....[/quote My original post was a little bit insular but the main point was that you have two fullbacks who can't get a game at their own clubs yet are deemed better for England than two regular starters. If I am wrong, then Roy needs to have a word with LVG to tell him he doesn't need to buy Clyne as he has a better option already at United!
simo Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Always worth a laugh this forum and the #Saintsfc hashtag on twitter at England games. If RH doesn't select the who Saints team he's clueless.... Are you implying Jones and Gibbs deserve to start ahead of Clyne and Bertrand?
Yorkshire Saint Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 this England team would struggle for a mid table finish in the premier league....people forget we are playing bloody Slovenia. 3 points should not be a question but a certainty
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Bit strange that Clyne has been dropped really. Must have looked poor in training. He was pretty poor in the last two England games he played and not great for us in a chunk of the 2nd half of the season.
krissyboy31 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 He was pretty poor in the last two England games he played and not great for us in a chunk of the 2nd half of the season. And Sterling?
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Holland are supposed to be all that's good about football. How many World Cups have they won? In the half a century since England made the final of anything, the Dutch have been WC runners up three times and came third once. They've also won the Euros and been in the semis four times compared to our record of zero wins and two semis. Their record sh*ts all over England's.
Sour Mash Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 And Sterling? I'd have played Walcott personally.
The9 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Townsend has been decent for England. And only England.
trousers Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Oops Unless my eyes deceive me, that looked to be going wide until it hit a bump in the ground
Katalinic Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 So many average players in this England side - picked by the arch-dinosaur Hodgson.
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 That goal was beautifully worked by England.
USA SaintsFan Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 At this point I'm actually rooting for Slovenia so Hodgson will get the sack.
krissyboy31 Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 At this point I'm actually rooting for Slovenia so Hodgson will get the sack. They won't sack him or at least until after the Championships.
Katalinic Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 At this point I'm actually rooting for Slovenia so Hodgson will get the sack. That won't happen, it should have done after the Brazil debacle. What will happen is that we will qualify (via an easy group), then be a total disaster at a major tournament again at which point the FA will call for yet another "root and branches" review of English football (nothing will change as usual).
Lighthouse Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 So many average players in this England side - picked by the arch-dinosaur Hodgson. That's the thing through, I don't think they are average and Hodgson was a decent manager at Fulham and West Brom. Everyone associated with England seems to under-perform and it's been like that for a long time. We aren't a world beating team but the likes of Rooney are far better than the performances the churn out for the national side. I don't know if it's some ingrained coaching philosophy or just the pressure and psychology of playing for the national side but something is rotten to the core with our whole set up. Our tactics and organisation just aren't their collectively. It always just seems to be bodging the biggest name players who play for the big clubs into whichever formation is fashionable.
JakkoUK Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 I tend to find myself rooting for the opposition in England games. I think I've well and truly lost interest in England.
angelman Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 I don't why I did, but when they scored, I clapped. I have no idea how we played leading up to it, as I fell after about 5 minutes, woke up of and on, and woke up to see the pass leading up to the goal.
aintforever Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 How the **** does Walcott not get in that side. Garbage.
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 So rather than bring on Clyne, a proper RB, he moves Henderson to RB. You can't help but wonder about this big club bias sometimes.
aintforever Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 I'm still trying to work out what Henderson is good at.
Gorgiesaint Posted 14 June, 2015 Posted 14 June, 2015 Always worth a laugh this forum and the #Saintsfc hashtag on twitter at England games. If RH doesn't select the who Saints team he's clueless....[/quote My original post was a little bit insular but the main point was that you have two fullbacks who can't get a game at their own clubs yet are deemed better for England than two regular starters. If I am wrong, then Roy needs to have a word with LVG to tell him he doesn't need to buy Clyne as he has a better option already at United! This, and to make it worse Jones taken off at half time and we'll try Henderson at right back.
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