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Saints set to sign Juanmi - according to SUR, daily newspaper of Malaga

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CityRanger

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If we do sign this guy I can't see us going for Austin as well.

I wouldn't rule out Pelle leaving though. There were a few reports of Serie A sides sniffing around at the end of last season. Whether they have the dosh is another thing. Could be a revamped front line and style of play then.

 

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RW-Long/Tadic AM-Tadic/Juanmi/JWP LW-Mane/Rodriguez

 

ST-Pelle/Long/Rodriguez

 

Looks pretty good depth to be fair, but just lacking that 15/20 goals a year striker unless we rely on Rodriguez coming back even better and playing up top?

 

...and a fully fit Gallagher and an eager Seager for squad depth.

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Bermuda Saint

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Just spoken to a Spanish sport journalist about him (what type of player, what can he bring, is it a good move for us and him) - that, plus some details, are here...

 

http://stmarysmusings.sbnation.com/2015/6/15/8784073/transfer-lowdown-juanmi

 

tks for the info! I hope the Spanish J was not his undercover agent, what a positive report!

 

Well if this is done I am very excited about it! I was wondering how we could get a Spanish maestro, but any ready made Spanish star is way out of price range. The promising young stars seemed the only way to go. But that is fraught with danger, there are quite a few clubs transfer committees with egg on their face after the next Silva failed to make it! due to being too light weight for our PL.

 

Now our legendary black box/transfer committee have pinpointed the Spanish star that fits their high standards. A striker being groomed for the Spanish team shows huge potential, and a player who will be driven to keep that place in the national squad. The next RAUL!! now that would be something to see, a future Spanish star that we develop into a world class striker!:D, won't be here for long if he progresses as hoped but the $$$$$ we will get for him will break a record for SFC in the future.

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Lallana's Left Peg

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So then, with this looking to be sorted do you still think we will sign someone to compete with Pelle up the top? I would say we need to.

 

Depends on how Koeman wants to play next season and the degree to which he thinks Jay Rod can play up front.

 

In the 4-2-3-1 I would be wary of Jay Rod's ability to play as a lone frontman with his back to goal. We know Long gives it a go but isn't great with the ball, so that would mean Pelle is our only option and dangerous. When we go two up front (either in the flat 'Atletico' 4-4-2 or in the 3-5-2) we know we can play Pelle, Jay Rod, Long, and Mane in those two so we have plenty of options there.

 

If 4-2-3-1 is the default then it's all down to whether or not Jay Rod could cover Pelle as the long striker if required. Personally I'm not convinced but you never know.

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Depends on how Koeman wants to play next season and the degree to which he thinks Jay Rod can play up front.

 

In the 4-2-3-1 I would be wary of Jay Rod's ability to play as a lone frontman with his back to goal. We know Long gives it a go but isn't great with the ball, so that would mean Pelle is our only option and dangerous. When we go two up front (either in the flat 'Atletico' 4-4-2 or in the 3-5-2) we know we can play Pelle, Jay Rod, Long, and Mane in those two so we have plenty of options there.

 

If 4-2-3-1 is the default then it's all down to whether or not Jay Rod could cover Pelle as the long striker if required. Personally I'm not convinced but you never know.

 

Judging by how loathe he was to drop Pelle during his bad run of form and experiment with a more mobile front three, Koeman definitely seems to prefer sending out a team with a genuine target man. Juanmi definitely doesn't fit that bill, and I don't think contesting high balls is really JRod's game.

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Dig Dig

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So then, with this looking to be sorted do you still think we will sign someone to compete with Pelle up the top? I would say we need to.

 

I don't think so. Pelle did really well last year and there is no reason for him not to have another good season. This is based on the fact that Rodriguez is back and can play through the middle which can ease some of the burden on Pelle at times. With Juami and Mane thrown into the mix, that's a pretty flexible forward line to have.

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I don't think so. Pelle did really well last year and there is no reason for him not to have another good season. This is based on the fact that Rodriguez is back and can play through the middle which can ease some of the burden on Pelle at times. With Juami and Mane thrown into the mix, that's a pretty flexible forward line to have.

 

Although it's great that Rodriguez is on the mend, it would be foolish to expect too much from him straight away, so I still think Koeman may want more firepower and another option for the central target man striker. I would still say an injury to Pelle for any length of time would leave us looking a little lightweight in attack, and Koeman has been reluctant to use Long or Mane as a central striker up top in place of Pelle. It's possible we may still sign Austin but look to recoup some money by selling Long?

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Although it's great that Rodriguez is on the mend, it would be foolish to expect too much from him straight away, so I still think Koeman may want more firepower and another option for the central target man striker. I would still say an injury to Pelle for any length of time would leave us looking a little lightweight in attack, and Koeman has been reluctant to use Long or Mane as a central striker up top in place of Pelle. It's possible we may still sign Austin but look to recoup some money by selling Long?

 

I wouldn't be surprised either way tbh. If there is any concern over Rodriguez, then yes, there may be a bit of an issue in terms of options up top but with him having a whole pre-season ahead of him in addition to the time he's already spent on fitness, I'd be surprised if he wasn't able to come in and start making a positive impact from the off next season.

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Wouldn't be a huge suprise if one of the Italian sides come in for Pelle and he may well be keen as he hasnt ever established himself in his home country.

 

I would think Saints wouldn't actively look to sell, but would consider any offer of around what we paid for him.

 

My thought too. It must be really tempting to go back and prove yourself in your home country and make friends / family proud.

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Wouldn't be a huge suprise if one of the Italian sides come in for Pelle and he may well be keen as he hasnt ever established himself in his home country.

 

I would think Saints wouldn't actively look to sell, but would consider any offer of around what we paid for him.

 

I would think Pelle would want to continue playing for the manager who has total faith in him and has gotten more out of him than anyone else in his career.

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Sour Mash

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Bologna after Pelle according to Corriera Della Sport http://m.calciomercato.it/news/336008/calciomercato-bologna-saputo-vuole-un-grande-attaccante-occhi-su-pell.html He was also linked to Lazio recently.

 

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Can't see Bologna coming close to according Pellè, unless they've had a massive cash injection.

 

Pellè is playing for a very good Premier League side, a manager that he works very well with, starts for the Italian national team; I can only see it being a really top Italian team offering good money to tempt him.

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Depends on how Koeman wants to play next season and the degree to which he thinks Jay Rod can play up front.

 

In the 4-2-3-1 I would be wary of Jay Rod's ability to play as a lone frontman with his back to goal. We know Long gives it a go but isn't great with the ball, so that would mean Pelle is our only option and dangerous. When we go two up front (either in the flat 'Atletico' 4-4-2 or in the 3-5-2) we know we can play Pelle, Jay Rod, Long, and Mane in those two so we have plenty of options there.

 

If 4-2-3-1 is the default then it's all down to whether or not Jay Rod could cover Pelle as the long striker if required. Personally I'm not convinced but you never know.

 

Despite all the permutations and options, we still lack someone who can rely on to score consistently.

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Despite all the permutations and options, we still lack someone who can rely on to score consistently.

 

Well the goal poacher still exists but usually those sort of finishers contribute little else to the team. Great finishers who also contribute to the team will play for far better teams than us. So I guess we're taking the route of ensuring we have depth and options, which seems sensible to cover injuries, form, and fatigue.

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I reckon that will be it on the striker front. Jay Rod is like a new signing, and we also have Shane Long and Pelle. I would be amazed if we made a move for anyone else.

 

We also have Seager and Gallagher climbing the ranks. Mane can play there too.

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Sounds like he is very similar to Mane, which makes a lot of sense to me. I can see us rotating between the two of them early on in the season to cover the Europa league, maybe Juanmi playing on the thursday and Mane playing on the sunday. Will help with his integration into the rigours of the Premier League and will mean we don't have to keep changing our playing style/formation every other game. Clever clever purchase imho.

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I'd hope Pelle would improve and get 15 to be honest. I'd hope for at least double figures from Rodriguez and Mane too, any of them could have a good season and get more.

 

Would help but we've also got to get more goals out of the midfield. Morgan improved on that front in his time with us but Davis is better in a deeper role and JWP hasn't looked like getting one from open play. Victor is never going to be prolific either. For all the strengths of our overall excellent midfield, someone who can run in behind the opposition's defensive screen with a bit more composure would convert a few of those 1-0 defeats - like Everton - into draws or wins.

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