Saint-Armstrong Posted 5 June, 2015 Posted 5 June, 2015 http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/thomas-eichin/wen-wird-werder-los-41227230.bild.html Koeman still wants Elia, but the transfer committee at Saints are unconvinced. The set fee was €5m, which Saints don't want to pay - but they may still do a deal if Koeman still wants the player and they can get him for €2m-€3m.
Bewildered Posted 5 June, 2015 Posted 5 June, 2015 http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/thomas-eichin/wen-wird-werder-los-41227230.bild.html Koeman still wants Elia, but the transfer committee at Saints are unconvinced. The set fee was €5m, which Saints don't want to pay - but they may still do a deal if Koeman still wants the player and they can get him for €2m-€3m. Makes sense. Not set the world alight, but could be a handy squad player to have with all the extra games we may have to play, if we can get him for the equivalent of £1.5-2m
Lighthouse Posted 5 June, 2015 Posted 5 June, 2015 I've been pretty underwhelmed with him overall so can't say I'm surprised or disappointed. He's not a 'handy squad player' that just seems to be a byword for not being good enough. A decent squad player should be able to offer something useful, Elia doesn't.
Colinjb Posted 5 June, 2015 Posted 5 June, 2015 Aside from that Newcastle game, he was quite sh*te. Would rather have Djuricic.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 He has shown some flashes of adequacy, could develop, Koemans call.
lifeintheslowlane Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Bookmark this thread! If he signs the consensus here is so damning he could well set the Premier League alight next season.
Red Alert Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Cant say I am either surprised or bothered by this. Never was impressed (Newcastle apart) anyway. Must be a better was to spend £2million around Europe.
sotonist Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 In summary: Marek Saganowski what, the guy who always played brilliantly on loan, earned permanent transfers, and then turned to ****? not seeing the connection.
doddisalegend Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 The PL version of Jonathan Forte one good game, two goals zip all else.
Faz Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Cant say I am either surprised or bothered by this. Never was impressed (Newcastle apart) anyway. Must be a better was to spend £2million around Europe. We could have got Jed Wallace for £175k. Similar standard?
Saint Charlie Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 We could have got Jed Wallace for £175k. Similar standard? No.
Saint Charlie Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 For £2-3m he is a good squad option. Can play on both sides and with a good pre season he would do a job. Worth remembering he came into the side when Pelle was out of form and the whole team were struggling slightly.
Eric The Red Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Have to agree with most other posters. Yes he won the game at Newcastle but he really has had minimal or even negative impact when used as sub particularly in the away games. Can't believe some of the youth squad could do any worse. I would rather spend the money on a couple of lower league players with potential and hope that at least 1 of them comes off
krissyboy31 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 The PL version of Jonathan Forte one good game, two goals zip all else. He wasn't that quick!
krissyboy31 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Sometimes players just don't settle that quick. With a full pre-season with Saints who knows?? Not saying he would be the answer but if Koeman believes in him, I'm happy to go with that. Obviously the board aren't prepared to take the risk at that price.
Gorgiesaint Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 For £2-3m he is a good squad option. Can play on both sides and with a good pre season he would do a job. Worth remembering he came into the side when Pelle was out of form and the whole team were struggling slightly. For once, I agree with Saint Charlie. At the right price, given we some squad depth this season with the Europa League, I think he is good option. Remember that Elia himself wasn't in form when he joined us. Given a decent pre-season, I think he could be a bargain.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 He wasn't that quick! I agree. He got out paced by Jordan Henderson i recall, so he is hardly blessed with decent pace. Not even sure what his stronger foot is either.
Supersubpuckett Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 seems flakey......not worth it, esp with j rod coming back
ART Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 2.8 million salary!!!! I wouldn't give him the time of day. Just shows the type of rubbish Koeman's going to leave us lumbered with if the transfer committee don't put their foot down. To bring in crap like Elia would never take us to the next level.
Window Cleaner Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 2.8 million salary!!!! I wouldn't give him the time of day. Just shows the type of rubbish Koeman's going to leave us lumbered with if the transfer committee don't put their foot down. To bring in crap like Elia would never take us to the next level. Euros though I expect, 2 million quidish. 40K a week in popular parlance. Obviously still cashing in on a WC final appearance.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Thank god for that. I'd have been gutted if we'd paid £5m for him.
Bucks Saint Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 what, the guy who always played brilliantly on loan, earned permanent transfers, and then turned to ****? not seeing the connection. The guy who also scored on the last day against Sheff Utd to keep us up
Lets B Avenue Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 2.8 million salary!!!! I wouldn't give him the time of day. Just shows the type of rubbish Koeman's going to leave us lumbered with if the transfer committee don't put their foot down. To bring in crap like Elia would never take us to the next level. March Hare.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 As we will need a bigger squad, I'd take him for a couple of million, but he'd have to lower his wage demands.
Lighthouse Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Why are so many clinging to the notion that somehow preseason training will make him better? All it does is build fitness and teamwork ahead of the new season, it wont make anyone suddenly a better player. It's not as if fitness is an issue here. If he was overweight, out of shape or coming back from a bad injury then a pre-season would probably sort him out but it wont make him a better player.
S-Clarke Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 As we will need a bigger squad, I'd take him for a couple of million, but he'd have to lower his wage demands. But we risk filling the squad up with pointless clutter, who we will struggle to shift. I'm happy to go with the notion of letting the academy players provide the majority of the squad depth.
Batman Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 He was gash. Unless in a free with low wages, then no for me
niceandfriendly Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Why are so many clinging to the notion that somehow preseason training will make him better? I've seen one person suggest that might help. One. Could just say loads though, yeah why the f*ck not? This seems fun let me have a go. Why are f*cking sh*t loads of you saying this is a similar situation to Marek Saganowski? It's like every single season ticket holder at SMS is saying the Elia situation is the same as Marek's was. Mentaaaaal. ****in' mental maaaaaaate.
Lighthouse Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 I've seen one person suggest that might help. One. Could just say loads though, yeah why the f*ck not? This seems fun let me have a go. Why are f*cking sh*t loads of you saying this is a similar situation to Marek Saganowski? It's like every single season ticket holder at SMS is saying the Elia situation is the same as Marek's was. Mentaaaaal. ****in' mental maaaaaaate. I would suggest you need to improve your literacy or mathematics. Maybe he thinks with a pre season he could do something. I'd go for that. with a good pre season he would do a job. With a full pre-season with Saints who knows?? Given a decent pre-season, I think he could be a bargain.
Shance Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 I don't think he's all that bad. He's more direct and for that price I'd take him and see how we can develope him. If it doesn't work out then it's no huge loss.
The9 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Makes sense. Not set the world alight, but could be a handy squad player to have with all the extra games we may have to play, if we can get him for the equivalent of £1.5-2m Completely agree - if we can get him cheaply or arrange another loan he's worth having if we get to the group stages.
The9 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 March Hare. So very hatstand in every situation I'm starting to think he's some kind of genius troll.
The9 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Euros though I expect, 2 million quidish. 40K a week in popular parlance. Obviously still cashing in on a WC final appearance. Even if we got him for nothing I wouldn't pay him that.
The9 Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 We could have got Jed Wallace for £175k. Similar standard? They have an equal number of legs, after that I'm failing to see the similarity.
shurlock Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Would rather have on a cheap deal than overpaying for the likes of matty phillips.
Cascadia Saint Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 So very hatstand in every situation I'm starting to think he's some kind of genius troll. No was just thinking the very same thing!
hypochondriac Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 So very hatstand in every situation I'm starting to think he's some kind of genius troll. Nope I know someone who knows him. He really is like that.
Batman Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Would rather have on a cheap deal than overpaying for the likes of matty phillips. What the player 2nd to messi in assists this calendar year?
Edmonton Saint Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Awful player. Glad he will never don Saints shirt again.
david in sweden Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Completely agree - if we can get him cheaply or arrange another loan he's worth having if we get to the group stages. I go along with that, too...
gammon cheeks Posted 6 June, 2015 Posted 6 June, 2015 Been the same at most clubs ...starts off ok then becomes pretty average.
hutch Posted 7 June, 2015 Posted 7 June, 2015 Why do we think that the purchase price is a factor on whether we should sign him or not? If he's any good we'll get our money back when we sell him on. If he isn't then we shouldn't sign him in the first place. The only money issue to consider is his wages.
Andy Durman Posted 7 June, 2015 Posted 7 June, 2015 It's that Word Potential. I think we haven't seen him Play to his Potential. Can Koeman unlock him? I think he's got something. Certainly brings alot to Training. I like him. The Question is are there better options first to pursue??
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