Shance Posted 30 April, 2016 Posted 30 April, 2016 Billy Sharp never got a chance in the premier league! Because he wasn't good enough. Proven by what he's done since leaving.
Ice2Eskimos Posted 30 April, 2016 Posted 30 April, 2016 He's useless in the Prem. He's shone in the Championship because that's about his level.
david in sweden Posted 1 May, 2016 Posted 1 May, 2016 He seems to be MOTM in every one of Boro's games nowadays. Maybe we need to reassess him. I must admit I never rated him when he was with us, but now he looks like someone we really need right now: an attacking midfielder who creates and scores goals consistently. http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-fc-man-match-vs-11265929 yes he does .......in the Championship. Perhaps the fact that he was ignored by three successive Saints managers says something more. Don't expect RK to suddenly re-sign him.
Mr Biscuits Posted 1 May, 2016 Posted 1 May, 2016 Yep, Ramirez had plenty of chances and he isn't good enough for the PL. he's doing really well in the championship which is great for him but he's not going to come back to Saints and suddenly set the world alight.
sadoldgit Posted 1 May, 2016 Posted 1 May, 2016 Yep, Ramirez had plenty of chances and he isn't good enough for the PL. he's doing really well in the championship which is great for him but he's not going to come back to Saints and suddenly set the world alight. Napalm, I just love it every time you talk about fire!
Saint Martini Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Boro's best player until he got kicked out by Dale Stevens. I hope he's not seriously injured. It looked nasty.
Saint Stimp Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Boro's best player until he got kicked out by Dale Stevens. I hope he's not seriously injured. It looked nasty.
Pamplemousse Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Alps finally has a legit reason to call him Gashton
VectisSaint Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Nasty gash, wasn't the most reckless challenge by Dale Stephens but still not very nice. Made Boro's goal that earned them promotion with a great free kick. Has been very influential in Boro's form since January. Will be interesting to see if Boro sign him now.
Crab Lungs Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Horrible sh1t, Dale Stephens. Hopefully he''ll gave the same done to him. Get well soon, Gaston.
VectisSaint Posted 7 May, 2016 Posted 7 May, 2016 Horrible sh1t, Dale Stephens. Hopefully he''ll gave the same done to him. Get well soon, Gaston. Horrible **** who could play in Kelv's testimonial?
scorchio21 Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 So how much can we salvage from Boro for him? If we can get £5m that would be an unexpectedly good outcome I think.
SaffaSaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 So how much can we salvage from Boro for him? If we can get £5m that would be an unexpectedly good outcome I think. Hes out of contract Sent from my HUAWEI GRA-L09 using Tapatalk
ericofarabia Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 So how much can we salvage from Boro for him? If we can get £5m that would be an unexpectedly good outcome I think. If we got 5 million, or even 5p it would be a masterstroke by Les Reed. He is out of contract at the end of the season. Getting him off the wage list, will go some way to paying towards VVD's improved contract though!
Redslo Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 If we got 5 million, or even 5p it would be a masterstroke by Les Reed. He is out of contract at the end of the season. Getting him off the wage list, will go some way to paying towards VVD's improved contract though! It should more than cover it, in fact.
VectisSaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 So how much can we salvage from Boro for him? If we can get £5m that would be an unexpectedly good outcome I think. We don't get anything. He's out of contract, a free agent. Still, some Boro fans are suggesting they give us 10 million :-))
doddisalegend Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 We don't get anything. He's out of contract, a free agent. Still, some Boro fans are suggesting they give us 10 million :-)) Sounds good. Can we interest them in any other players that are no longer ours to sell ??
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 We don't get anything. He's out of contract, a free agent. Still, some Boro fans are suggesting they give us 10 million :-)) I'd take it I have a bank account in Nigeria just waiting for it.
VectisSaint Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 I'd take it I have a bank account in Nigeria just waiting for it. Please forward the details.
st alex Posted 8 May, 2016 Posted 8 May, 2016 If we got 5 million, or even 5p it would be a masterstroke by Les Reed. He is out of contract at the end of the season. Getting him off the wage list, will go some way to paying towards VVD's improved contract though! He's 25, so too old for any compensation?
david in sweden Posted 9 May, 2016 Posted 9 May, 2016 Ron Koeman should get a knighthood ...perhaps Freedom of the City comes first!
david in sweden Posted 9 May, 2016 Posted 9 May, 2016 Gaston has become a folk hero for 'Boro, and it'll be pre-season before he's back properly fit. They'll want to keep him. A good guess is that he will sign on and play for them in the Prem. ......Italy and Uruguay can wait a bit longer........
Shance Posted 9 May, 2016 Posted 9 May, 2016 I really don't think Boro will be able to afford his wages.
DuncanRG Posted 9 May, 2016 Posted 9 May, 2016 I really don't think Boro will be able to afford his wages. If we could afford them when we were promoted, they certainly can with the new TV deal.
VectisSaint Posted 9 May, 2016 Posted 9 May, 2016 I really don't think Boro will be able to afford his wages. You do realise that he is not on any wages after June? What we have paid him in the past is irrelevant. If Boro want him and offer him something sensible and no-one else offers him more then they will probably get him. Anyway with the new TV deal Boro like any other PL team probably can afford to pay him what we did (if they are mugs).
Avenue_Saint Posted 18 May, 2016 Posted 18 May, 2016 http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sign-gaston-ramirez-nearly-10000-11351156
doddisalegend Posted 18 May, 2016 Posted 18 May, 2016 http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/sign-gaston-ramirez-nearly-10000-11351156 Saints fans would probably have been the same if he had ever performed like he did for boro....
Saint IQ Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 I really don't think Boro will be able to afford his wages. New TV deal they definitely will, if he's a key player for them. Which he has been.
eelpie Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Did Gaston really score five goals in twelve Championship starts? What did we do wrong?
eelpie Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Because he clearly didn't have what it takes as judged everyday by the coaching staff. ...and Saints Web warriors
Bobbyboy Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Did Gaston really score five goals in twelve Championship starts? What did we do wrong? "We were in the Premier League" is probably the standard answer. That said, with some confidence maybe he could do a job for them next season.
saintwbu Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Did Gaston really score five goals in twelve Championship starts? What did we do wrong? I know everyone will say 'oh it's in the championship', which yes in parts is a lower standard league, but I think Bournemouth, Watford, Leicester show that the gap isn't what it once was. In the games I watched him in, he looked like he could see what nobody else could, which sometimes I felt was the case here when he set up chances that no one else saw coming (West Brom at home for Lallana), but understandably if that only happens once every game or two then it does give the appearance of being a passenger. Hopefully he stays with Boro and makes a Premier League career, never seemed to be a problem within the squad like Osvaldo was, so I think a lot of the criticism is slightly excessive, he just wasn't what the manager required.
eelpie Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 I know everyone will say 'oh it's in the championship', which yes in parts is a lower standard league, but I think Bournemouth, Watford, Leicester show that the gap isn't what it once was. In the games I watched him in, he looked like he could see what nobody else could, which sometimes I felt was the case here when he set up chances that no one else saw coming (West Brom at home for Lallana), but understandably if that only happens once every game or two then it does give the appearance of being a passenger. Hopefully he stays with Boro and makes a Premier League career, never seemed to be a problem within the squad like Osvaldo was, so I think a lot of the criticism is slightly excessive, he just wasn't what the manager required. Good summary. I guess we might know more when we play Borough.
eelpie Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Napalm, I just love it every time you talk about fire! Don't pour water on Napalm's opinions.
Saint IQ Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 (edited) Did Gaston really score five goals in twelve Championship starts? What did we do wrong? 7 in his first 15 games, according to this http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/im-enjoying-football-again-says-11349515 7 in 17 overall according to wiki Think we went wrong by buying him in a higher more demanding league. He has talent though I've always believed that but far more useful in a possession dominating attack minded side, a burden in a team say when we played Spurs away, we would of not won that game had he been on the team sheet Edited 20 May, 2016 by Saint IQ
ashnats Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Good summary. I guess we might know more when we play Borough. Brough. Middlesbrough.
SonicBoom Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Also he cost 15 mill. That didn't help him and he struggled with the expectation. Had we bought him for 4 mill then we would have looked at him favourably compared with for example Juanmi...
eelpie Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Brough. Middlesbrough. Thanks, should have known (Boro)
alpine_saint Posted 20 May, 2016 Posted 20 May, 2016 Get him back B*ll*cks. Anyway, his contract has finished. Thank f*k.
sadoldgit Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 So it has been announced that "Gashton" has finally been released by the club. This could be the first day in the history of The Saints Web that Alpine has cracked a smile.
Highfield Saint Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Boro' love him. Talking to one of theirs yesterday and they cant believe we've let him go.
nta786 Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Boro' love him. Talking to one of theirs yesterday and they cant believe we've let him go. And if he does shi*e for them next summer they'll be calling for his head.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Boro' love him. Talking to one of theirs yesterday and they cant believe we've let him go. Wait 'til they see him in the Prem.
Nordic Saint Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Wait 'til they see him in the Prem. He could be the next Jason Puncheon, showing occasional flashes of brilliance and making a point of scoring in games against us.
SNSUN Posted 26 May, 2016 Posted 26 May, 2016 Granted Ramirez did very little for us since that first half season in the Prem, but has he ever really thrown a paddy whilst he was here? I can't remember one.
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