The9 Posted 24 February, 2016 Share Posted 24 February, 2016 He will return to premier league with middlesbrough. He is at least better than Juanmi. He might and he isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2016 Share Posted 24 February, 2016 Boro fans loving him ! "And Ramirez. Wow. What an absolute signing this guy is already turning out to be. I can't stop watching his goal. It's like time just froze as the ball came to him, he had all the time in the world just to take that down, square up his body and place it right into the top corner. He was running at players, getting himself involved, looking for the killer pass. He won a penalty in which he forced the defender into a stupid tackle as a last ditch attempt or he had a clear sight of goal." And that's why he's not a consistent enough Prem player - because he needs it. Glad he's getting a game, but he's not good enough at the moment to play for Saints regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 24 February, 2016 Share Posted 24 February, 2016 With the new TV deal if Boro get promoted and want to keep him I'd be surprised if they couldn't outbid anyone who would realistically want him in Italy or Spain wages-wise... Quite, people don't seem to have grasped how much the new Prem tv deal gives PL clubs compared to all but the most successful continental European sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 February, 2016 Share Posted 24 February, 2016 Boro fans loving him ! "And Ramirez. Wow. What an absolute signing this guy is already turning out to be. I can't stop watching his goal. It's like time just froze as the ball came to him, he had all the time in the world just to take that down, square up his body and place it right into the top corner. He was running at players, getting himself involved, looking for the killer pass. He won a penalty in which he forced the defender into a stupid tackle as a last ditch attempt or he had a clear sight of goal." He doesn't get that time in the prem and there in lies the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Mulgrew Posted 25 February, 2016 Share Posted 25 February, 2016 Although Ramirez is starring for Boro, Gaston plays in goal for Morton and kept a clean sheet a couple of days ago. What a versatile player! We obviously played him in the wrong position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonb Posted 26 February, 2016 Share Posted 26 February, 2016 Ramirez at Boro has got Saganowski written all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 26 February, 2016 Share Posted 26 February, 2016 Wonder if the deal we have with Boro over Gaston pays more if they get promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 February, 2016 Share Posted 26 February, 2016 Wonder if the deal we have with Boro over Gaston pays more if they get promoted. Isn't he out of contract at the end of the season? I suppose this doesn't preclude some sort of deal over promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 26 February, 2016 Share Posted 26 February, 2016 (edited) And that's why he's not a consistent enough Prem player - because he needs it. Glad he's getting a game, but he's not good enough at the moment to play for Saints regularly. I think that the original boro poster was implying that he made it LOOK like he had all the time in the world."It was like time just froze" might have given you a clue on that. Perhaps he is now playing for a coach that knows how to use him. Only time will tell. Edited 26 February, 2016 by St_Tel49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 26 February, 2016 Share Posted 26 February, 2016 I think that the original boro poster was implying that he made it LOOK like he had all the time in the world."It was like time just froze" might have given you a clue on that. Perhaps he is now playing for a coach that knows how to use him. Only time will tell. Jesus Christ, he isn't good enough for the Prem. Billy Sharp looked good for us in the Championship and scored plenty of goals at that level. Not sure why people think Gaston is a special case just because he's foreign and came with a big billing. The fact he was pretty poor for Hull last year, to the point that he ended up on the bench, should hint to you that he's clearly not suited to the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 March, 2016 Share Posted 1 March, 2016 Wonder if the deal we have with Boro over Gaston pays more if they get promoted. good thought angelman ...not exactly a sell-on clause but if they wanted him badly enough, and we subsidizes his salary, then we might be able to claw a back few K. if they go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Playing well tonight. Good goal Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Playing well tonight. Good goal Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk My mate who's a Boro season ticket holder recons Gaston has been running nearly every game he's played in so far , That goal takes Boro top! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Good stuff he was still a waste of 12m plus for us Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 2-0 & Scored again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 2-0 & Scored again. It 4 years time the Middlesborough web will be reminiscing about that Wolves game where Ramirez showed he clearly has talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 It 4 years time the Middlesborough web will be reminiscing about that Wolves game where Ramirez showed he clearly has talent. He's been their best player since he's joined them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 It 4 years time the Middlesborough web will be reminiscing about that Wolves game where Ramirez showed he clearly has talent. If only the 3 Saints managers had realised what a talent they ignored Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Commentary from the BBC "Wow. What. A. Goal.*Gaston Ramirez*strolls through the Wolves defence far too easily, plays a clever one-two with George Friend and curls a lovely ball into the back of Carl Ikeme's net. That is quite a finish." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKD Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 If only the 3 Saints managers had realised what a talent they ignored Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Starting to show the benefit of a decent run in the team. He was a bit unlucky with injury and never really suited our style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Commentary from the BBC "Wow. What. A. Goal.*Gaston Ramirez*strolls through the Wolves defence far too easily, plays a clever one-two with George Friend and curls a lovely ball into the back of Carl Ikeme's net. That is quite a finish." It's the Championship he can't hack it in The Prem. Doesn't get same space and time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Starting to show the benefit of a decent run in the team. He was a bit unlucky with injury and never really suited our style. You can say unlucky......our team at Staplewood may call that differently. He didn't get a run because he was **** even at Hull!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 You can say unlucky......our team at Staplewood may call that differently. He didn't get a run because he was **** even at Hull!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I've watched a few Boro games and you can see he's a class above everyone on the pitch ! http://oneboro.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?tid=7946&page=28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Yes in the Championship remind me how he was in the Prem??? How did he do in a crap Hull team??? How many games did he show that class for us and how many games where he couldn't be arsed? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 It's the Championship he can't hack it in The Prem. Doesn't get same space and time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Not saying he is good in the PL but isn't it often said you get more space and time in the PL than the Championship which is more in your face and aggressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Often a player clicks at a certain club at a certain time Be interesting how he gets on should boro go up and he stays, compared to our first year back up. He did well that season IMO Pretty crap there after. Much of that is because he is in no way a Poch type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Often a player clicks at a certain club at a certain time Be interesting how he gets on should boro go up and he stays, compared to our first year back up. He did well that season IMO Pretty crap there after. Much of that is because he is in no way a Poch type of player. Or Adkins, Koeman or Bruce have a search back on Koemans statements on him. He couldn't be arsed yet now he is playing for a contract or back to Bologna on half the money. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 So to be clear every time he pulled on a Saints shirt I had great expectations and cheered him to do well. He let us down couldn't be bothered. Feigned injuries etc yes he looks good in Champ but why???? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 What I don't get is how is lauded on here by some as "always showing great effort when he's played" or "you can never fault his effort". Err what? When was all this effort? As far as I can he's sat on his Arse for 60k per week, consistently performed way below his maximum for 2-3 years......but yet still seen as under appreciated by many on here. Is it because he's always compared to Osvaldo, who was without one of the biggest ****s in world football thus making Gaston look like an absolute grafter in comparison? I honestly don't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Not too late to offer him an extension. If Koeman goes in the summer (in the event he doesn t want to commit further) , why not give him a new lease of life here. Majority of the time its a confidence thing, he had less game time here, couldn t contribute as his confidence was low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 So to be clear every time he pulled on a Saints shirt I had great expectations and cheered him to do well. He let us down couldn't be bothered. Feigned injuries etc yes he looks good in Champ but why???? I find it bizarre how excited people get when he's playing against players everyone knows he's supposed to be MUCH better than anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Not too late to offer him an extension. If Koeman goes in the summer (in the event he doesn t want to commit further) , why not give him a new lease of life here. Majority of the time its a confidence thing, he had less game time here, couldn t contribute as his confidence was low. Yep, I'd offer him an extension. Great idea after years of doing nothing in the premiership I'd definitely tie the club down to another year or 2 of 60k a week on the back of 2 goals at a level lower than what would be required for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 Yep, I'd offer him an extension. Great idea after years of doing nothing in the premiership I'd definitely tie the club down to another year or 2 of 60k a week on the back of 2 goals at a level lower than what would be required for us. To be fair it'll probably take him another 10 years on the slippery slope until he ends up in Scotland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 4 March, 2016 Share Posted 4 March, 2016 To be fair it'll probably take him another 10 years on the slippery slope until he ends up in Scotland. Haha I knew the moment I put that, someone would pick up on it. Genuine error but no edit feature unless I sign up and pay the fiver! Too tight for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Good stuff he was still a waste of 12m plus for us Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He really was. Just the same, the boy can play a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Lets offer him a new contract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Starting to show the benefit of a decent run in the team. He was a bit unlucky with injury and never really suited our style. He was on the bench the other day when they played Blackburn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Some of the comments are so annoying when Gaston has a good game. Lets be honest, any player can have a good game. Cook was brilliant for Bournemouth against us, but in general he's an average player. Gaston played very well last night but for anyone watching the game you'd have seen that he was allowed far too much time on the ball to turn and make a decision, time that he never did and never would get in the PL. He's a very good player and a talent for sure but he is useless against a team who press and in a league where he can't stroll about a bit. (although he did put in a shift last night tbf but was knackered and subbed at the end) I wish people would stop moaning when he has a good game elsewhere tbh. He's not suited to our league at all, proven even more so when he failed massively to make an impact at Hull. Good luck to the lad, but I hope some of our fans get over him soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Not too late to offer him an extension. If Koeman goes in the summer (in the event he doesn t want to commit further) , why not give him a new lease of life here. Majority of the time its a confidence thing, he had less game time here, couldn t contribute as his confidence was low. Jesus H Christ. Why don't we find ten other players that have managed to score three goals in the second tier and offer them contracts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Not too late to offer him an extension. If Koeman goes in the summer (in the event he doesn t want to commit further) , why not give him a new lease of life here. Majority of the time its a confidence thing, he had less game time here, couldn t contribute as his confidence was low. I wish, as much as anyone, that GR had worked out. But if this is a serious suggestion you need your head read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 What we need is a truly objective view of Gaston on here. Alpine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 What we need is a truly objective view of Gaston on here. Alpine? lol. I can't wait. I think it is just nice to see at least one player leaving Saints and actually benefiting (other than financially). Well done Gaston. If you do get promoted, I suspect you will get a good reception back here next season. But please don't score.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 lol. I can't wait. I think it is just nice to see at least one player leaving Saints and actually benefiting (other than financially). Well done Gaston. If you do get promoted, I suspect you will get a good reception back here next season. But please don't score.... I agree and wish him all the best. It wasn't his fault that it didn't work out for him here. I don't believe that he was lazy or that he feigned injury. He just wasn't suited to our style and possibly not the Premiership either. He isn't the first and wont be the last. He can play though and it is good to see him getting games and being appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 The last couple of pages of this thread remind me of a Jasper Carrot joke. He once said he wouldnt like to survive a nuclear war because he couldnt stand the prospect of CND protesters running round saying "TOLD YOU SO !!!" Gashton failed spectacularly to convince 3 Saints managers and the Hull City manager of his ability / suitability to play at PL level and in their systems. End of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian H. Cope Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 I hope it works out for him at Boro and I also hope that I never see him in a Saints shirt ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-scooby Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 Surely he had long enough here to prove himself ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 I agree and wish him all the best. It wasn't his fault that it didn't work out for him here. **** me , of corse it was his fault . Who else was at fault ? He is not good enough . End of, it's nobody else fault . He wasn't given the rough end of the stick , he wasn't left out for political or any other reason . He is not good enough , that's it . It is nobody else's fault . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 **** me , of corse it was his fault . Who else was at fault ? He is not good enough . End of, it's nobody else fault . He wasn't given the rough end of the stick , he wasn't left out for political or any other reason . He is not good enough , that's it . It is nobody else's fault . It's not his fault he's not good enough is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 It's not his fault he's not good enough is it. Whose fault is it then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 March, 2016 Share Posted 5 March, 2016 I agree and wish him all the best. It wasn't his fault that it didn't work out for him here. I don't believe that he was lazy or that he feigned injury. He just wasn't suited to our style and possibly not the Premiership either. He isn't the first and wont be the last. He can play though and it is good to see him getting games and being appreciated. W...T....F........... He couldnt hack it for us, so took ages to recover from "injury", then made a miraculous recovery everytime there was a game in Montevideo so much so that he was training and playing within a couple of days of flying there, but bizarrely needed 2 months everytime he came back. F**k off with the bullshine that it wasnt his fault. He's been the biggest waste of money in Saints history (not corrected for inflation..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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