Jack the Saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 It's intresting how many people post on a rumour that a player is leaving, which is just that, a rumour. There is nothing confirmed but so many people are taking it as fact. Get a ****ing grip, he might well stay and if he goes to Watford then don't blame anybody, it's out of our hands.
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 The Titanic crashed in New York, get ya facts rights. Actually........ it never quite reached New York and the loss of life was a tragedy for many families in Southampton.
TopGun Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 We were lucky to have Cork for half a season really. Time to move on. Or you can all wring your hands and blame Lowe and go "woe is me".
eelpie Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 We were lucky to have Cork for half a season really. Time to move on. Or you can all wring your hands and blame Lowe and go "woe is me". Thank you, thank you, thank you. Is that enough? We are flucked
alpine_saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Seeing as the lad was quoted only a couple of weeks ago saying that he desperately wanted to stay at Saints, three possibilities exist : 1. Chelsea think we suck, are not good enough and are shambolic, and think he will learn more at Watford. A damning endictment 2. We have completely ballsed-up the discussions about extending the loan. Would not surprise me with Lowe and JP at the helm. Also a damning endictment 3. The article about Cork wanting to stay was pure PR spin, a complete fabrication. This would also not surprise me. Yet another damning endictment. The club comes out of this looking like a second- (or third-) rate outfit whichever way you look at it. And we go into the New Year fixtures with no defence.....
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Don't care if its true or not. Won't make a difference. We get stuffed most weeks anyway. Administration please.
RMoo2 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 He has gone to Watford. My brother works for them and was with Cork the other day finalising the deal. I think it is the Watford managers Chelsea connection that sealed it, plus we're rubbish.
brmbrm Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Seeing as the lad was quoted only a couple of weeks ago saying that he desperately wanted to stay at Saints, three possibilities exist : 1. Chelsea think we suck, are not good enough and are shambolic, and think he will learn more at Watford. A damning endictment 2. We have completely ballsed-up the discussions about extending the loan. Would not surprise me with Lowe and JP at the helm. Also a damning endictment 3. The article about Cork wanting to stay was pure PR spin, a complete fabrication. This would also not surprise me. Yet another damning endictment. The club comes out of this looking like a second- (or third-) rate outfit whichever way you look at it. And we go into the New Year fixtures with no defence..... .............all of which is the fault of Lowe. Run the place as a joke operation and you get what you deserve. We are ****ed. Lowe is the ****er and we just have to take it.
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Actually........ it never quite reached New York and the loss of life was a tragedy for many families in Southampton. Come on Grandad, can't you tell a post from Salvadore Dali when you read one?
NickG Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 nothing metioned on radio solent sports news this morning
saintwarwick Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 He has gone to Watford. My brother works for them and was with Cork the other day finalising the deal. I think it is the Watford managers Chelsea connection that sealed it, plus we're rubbish. Is your brother Cork's agent
SNSUN Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Bad news. Been a very consistant, versatile player. Will be sad to see him go.
surrey1saint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I fear this will be confirmed soon....very very bad for us,Cork is a very good player. We desperately need another loanee or 2 now.
krissyboy31 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Nothing on Watford site, nothing on OS, nothing on Sky and nothing on BBC. Is this just more BS on this site only?
trousers Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 We must be closer to administration than even us pessimists ever imagined....
mattyg Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Seeing as the lad was quoted only a couple of weeks ago saying that he desperately wanted to stay at Saints, three possibilities exist : 1. Chelsea think we suck, are not good enough and are shambolic, and think he will learn more at Watford. A damning endictment 2. We have completely ballsed-up the discussions about extending the loan. Would not surprise me with Lowe and JP at the helm. Also a damning endictment 3. The article about Cork wanting to stay was pure PR spin, a complete fabrication. This would also not surprise me. Yet another damning endictment. The club comes out of this looking like a second- (or third-) rate outfit whichever way you look at it. And we go into the New Year fixtures with no defence..... How about Watford offered Chelsea and Cork considerably more money than saints have. Oh I forgot that doesn't fit in with your agenda, so let gloss over any other options.
fish fingers Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I'm not sure why people think this is down to Saints if true. His loan spell is coming to an end, Chelsea can accept loan bids from other clubs. Cork may want to work with a coach he knows at Watford.
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 The Titanic crashed in New York, get ya facts rights. Get a lot of icebergs off Staten Island do they?
OLYMPIC Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Molyneux is a left full back mate not a centre half. This wont matter by the time we have played him out of position at centre half a few times and destroyed his confidence should fit right in.
miserableoldgit Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 The Titanic crashed in New York, get ya facts rights. Boy, is the lack of proper history on the National Curriculum starting to show!
SW5 SAINT Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 The Titanic crashed in New York, get ya facts rights. Nonsense, the Titanic was a Southampton disaster( large proportion of the crew were Sotonians), the only connection with New York was the ship was headed there, and maybe a few of the passengers came from there, like hundreds of other places in the world.
NickG Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 This wont matter by the time we have played him out of position at centre half a few times and destroyed his confidence should fit right in. tell Chelsea http://www.chelseafc.com/page/TheReservesProfiles/0,,10268~912198,00.html
PokingFun Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Seeing as the lad was quoted only a couple of weeks ago saying that he desperately wanted to stay at Saints, three possibilities exist : 1. Chelsea think we suck, are not good enough and are shambolic, and think he will learn more at Watford. A damning endictment 2. We have completely ballsed-up the discussions about extending the loan. Would not surprise me with Lowe and JP at the helm. Also a damning endictment 3. The article about Cork wanting to stay was pure PR spin, a complete fabrication. This would also not surprise me. Yet another damning endictment. The club comes out of this looking like a second- (or third-) rate outfit whichever way you look at it. And we go into the New Year fixtures with no defence..... Or Chelsea want to send him to one of their ex employees, or Jack Cork fancies working with someone he knows from his time at Chelsea....
OldNick Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Or Chelsea want to send him to one of their ex employees, or Jack Cork fancies working with someone he knows from his time at Chelsea....I expect it is down to money as much as anything.Watford are paying more and at the same time helping weaken us.Cork would be settled here now and so I dont expect it is anything to do with knowing the Chelsea man ,as he has been away from Chelsea for a season and a half.
Dan83 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4015159.Saints_lose_Jack_Cork_to_Watford/ Looks like the Echo's confirmed it!
Under Weststand Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 It will be a real shame if he does go as he's played well most of the time. But there is no evidence YET that this has happened. Lets all wring our hands & wail when it does Eh! Having said that if he goes it will leave us very short at the back. oh just seen this . http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4015159.Saints_lose_Jack_Cork_to_Watford/. Feel free to wring Hands & wail
trousers Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/search/?mo...&page_id=11152 "Head coach Jan Poortvliet is pleased with the level of competition for places in his squad ahead of the expiry date of a number of loan players at the club. "We will see on the 1st January what the situation is with the loan deals," he said. Reading defender Alex Pearce has already extended his stay at St. Mary's by a further month, but there may be further movement in and out with Chelsea player Jack Cork's future high on the Dutchman's list of priorities. "As far as I know, we want to keep Jack and Jack wants to stay here," he stated. "He feels comfortable and likes it here and we hope that he stays". Dear Jan, Probably best to keep shtum the next time the OS come knocking for an interview. Regards, Trousers
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 (edited) Will be a big miss but does it really matter? The clueless direction the club are following with a egotistic board,clueless coach and massive lack of what it takes to compete in this league means we will be relegated whether he stayed or not. Edited 2 January, 2009 by ALWAYS_SFC
SW5 SAINT Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 This just shows the disadvantage of not having a manager with a decent network of contacts - Poorto unlike Rogers will be unable to attract the decent fringe players of prem clubs!
benjii Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 So does this mean it's better to have a manager with good contacts in the English game than an amateurish nobody? I don't get it. Rupert, please help us see the bigger picture.
Leicestersaint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 This is a major blow to our chances. He has been one of our few classy players - and now he's gone.
SNOWY Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/search/?mo...&page_id=11152 "Head coach Jan Poortvliet is pleased with the level of competition for places in his squad ahead of the expiry date of a number of loan players at the club. "We will see on the 1st January what the situation is with the loan deals," he said. Reading defender Alex Pearce has already extended his stay at St. Mary's by a further month, but there may be further movement in and out with Chelsea player Jack Cork's future high on the Dutchman's list of priorities. "As far as I know, we want to keep Jack and Jack wants to stay here," he stated. "He feels comfortable and likes it here and we hope that he stays". Dear Jan, Probably best to keep shtum the next time the OS come knocking for an interview. Regards, Trousers The "As far as I know" comment says it all really.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 This is a major blow to our chances. He has been one of our few classy players - and now he's gone. More to follow out of the door no doubt!!
PokingFun Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I expect it is down to money as much as anything.Watford are paying more and at the same time helping weaken us.Cork would be settled here now and so I dont expect it is anything to do with knowing the Chelsea man ,as he has been away from Chelsea for a season and a half. To be honest Nick, it has now got to the stage where we should offload ANYONE we can get a good fee for and ensure that administration does not happen even though that will inevitably mean relegation. At least then finances might get back to an even keel and the club might be able to rebuild over a couple of seasons. If we are losing out based on money when competing for the signing of a premier league reserve team player (albeit a pretty good one) then what hope do we have of keeping or attracting players that might keep us up?
krissyboy31 Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Well, the only loanees that were any cop, were Cork and Pearce. The fans wanted to keep them and tbf Jan wanted to keep them. We have spectacularly managed to keep neither. All those advocating selling Surman and Lallana had better think again, because if they go we have no chance of surviving (not that I think we have much chance anyway!).
Under Weststand Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 More to follow out of the door no doubt!! That is the really disappointing thing If as expected we lose 2-3 of the better players (sold) as well then things are going to look a whole lot worse, Especially as this is a crucial month fixture wise.
OldNick Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 To be honest Nick, it has now got to the stage where we should offload ANYONE we can get a good fee for and ensure that administration does not happen even though that will inevitably mean relegation. At least then finances might get back to an even keel and the club might be able to rebuild over a couple of seasons. If we are losing out based on money when competing for the signing of a premier league reserve team player (albeit a pretty good one) then what hope do we have of keeping or attracting players that might keep us up?I agree that avoiding administratioj is number in priority. Cork played well but was not on our radar 6months ago. There must be other young players out there who will do well if we select well.Pekhart and Robertson were 1 goal wonders (I am saddened for Jordan and the poor person wh was killed in the accident) Robertson looked great against Norwich and then just looked lost after that. The margin between a average CCC player and top non league is not much and with the right coaching the difference can easily be made up.If you get a few PL reserve players then the margins are not there, but just experience is key. I have lost count of my favourite player over the years.I have learnt though 1 goes and soon another pops up.
benjii Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 I agree that avoiding administratioj is number in priority. Cork played well but was not on our radar 6months ago. There must be other young players out there who will do well if we select well.Pekhart and Robertson were 1 goal wonders (I am saddened for Jordan and the poor person wh was killed in the accident) Robertson looked great against Norwich and then just looked lost after that. The margin between a average CCC player and top non league is not much and with the right coaching the difference can easily be made up.If you get a few PL reserve players then the margins are not there, but just experience is key. I have lost count of my favourite player over the years.I have learnt though 1 goes and soon another pops up. That's us buggered then.
OldNick Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Well, the only loanees that were any cop, were Cork and Pearce. The fans wanted to keep them and tbf Jan wanted to keep them. We have spectacularly managed to keep neither. All those advocating selling Surman and Lallana had better think again, because if they go we have no chance of surviving (not that I think we have much chance anyway!).the Pearce thing is not our clubs fault to be fair.Both clubs announced that he was staying here until the 30th of jan and then Reading had a change of heart. Of course you could read that there has been a political falling out between the parties, or that we would not be able to pay up the loan fees as we were going into....
InvictaSaint Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 According to the Echo report JP was told two days ago! If this is the case, why the **** is there nothing on the OS? Pravda indeed.....
Fan The Flames Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Nothing on Watford site, nothing on OS, nothing on Sky and nothing on BBC. Is this just more BS on this site only? SWF BS my arse http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=7443
Saint 76er Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Trousers, old chap, how on earth did you get advance notice of our new club badge? This wasn't meant to be publicly released until next week. Still the new badge perfectly suits our current day persona, don't you think?
sadoldgit Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 More like Totally Footless Lowe is the worst disaster to befall this town since the Titanic. Did I miss something? Did hundreds of people just die???
Mole Posted 2 January, 2009 Posted 2 January, 2009 Did I miss something? Did hundreds of people just die??? If your hero Lowe died there would be street parties in Southampton.
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