S-Clarke Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Anyone aware if Reading have done better or worse since Adkins left? Not really much difference to be honest, which kind of shows that Adkins wasn't really bad - he was just working in a tough environment. That's what fans don't seem to understand sometimes, Sunderland being a prime example - they go through managers like nobody's business, yet I can pretty much be sure that they're not all crap. What is crap is the club structure above the manager, which doesn't exactly create an environment for anyone to thrive. Exactly the same as Newcastle with Pardew and now Carver, Keegan before them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy_Saint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 I still love Nigel This. Hes a great guy and did a tremendous amount for us, and i LOVED his post match interviews. Mr. Positive and always had the players playing for him. I still believe we would have stayed up with him in the Prem. @Saint-Armstrong, great write up and an interesting read! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 Not really much difference to be honest, which kind of shows that Adkins wasn't really bad - he was just working in a tough environment. That's what fans don't seem to understand sometimes, Sunderland being a prime example - they go through managers like nobody's business, yet I can pretty much be sure that they're not all crap. What is crap is the club structure above the manager, which doesn't exactly create an environment for anyone to thrive. Exactly the same as Newcastle with Pardew and now Carver, Keegan before them. A little while ago I saw a comparison chart on SSN comparing Nige & Clarke after 20+ games. Nigel came out on top. I work in Reading and there are about a dozen STH in my office. Adkins has come up in conversation quite frequently and ALL of them say Reading are far better under Clarke than they were Adkins. Unanimous agreement that Reading play better football, are defensively better and the players look more fired up since NA left the club. They also highlight how much better Clarke is tactically than Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 Not really much difference to be honest, which kind of shows that Adkins wasn't really bad - he was just working in a tough environment. That's what fans don't seem to understand sometimes, Sunderland being a prime example - they go through managers like nobody's business, yet I can pretty much be sure that they're not all crap. What is crap is the club structure above the manager, which doesn't exactly create an environment for anyone to thrive. Exactly the same as Newcastle with Pardew and now Carver, Keegan before them. While I appreciate the essence of what you say I find the strength of your feeling there a little baffling. How the only manager in our history to achieve back-to back promotions cannot be considered a legend is something of a mystery! Nigel Adkins is someone I personally hold in the same esteem as Le God, Rickie and any other hero figure I've known in my Saints supporting lifetime. Adkins did well at Saints, there's no denying that, however he isn't a legend. He inherited a good side from the Pardew regime which the foundations were already laid. Granted he still had to get us promoted but the cynic in me still feels he cost us the championship title due to his naivety. It's also key to remember that as quickly as NA took a side from League 1 to the Premier league, he very nearly took a side from the Premier League to League 1 as quick (all RFC fans I know think they would have been relegated this season under him!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 (edited) Adkins did well at Saints, there's no denying that, however he isn't a legend. He inherited a good side from the Pardew regime which the foundations were already laid. Granted he still had to get us promoted but the cynic in me still feels he cost us the championship title due to his naivety. It's also key to remember that as quickly as NA took a side from League 1 to the Premier league, he very nearly took a side from the Premier League to League 1 as quick (all RFC fans I know think they would have been relegated this season under him!) We will have to agree to disagree. Nigel Adkins is a legend for the reasons I have previously stated, doesn't matter what he inherited, or what he didn't do, he did give me and thousands others a story to hold onto for the rest of our days as we went up twice in two seasons. He made it happen. And as for Reading, really couldn't care less about that rabble... that you have gone a little native has clearly clouded your judgement. Edited 22 May, 2015 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 Adkins did well at Saints, there's no denying that, however he isn't a legend. He inherited a good side from the Pardew regime which the foundations were already laid. Granted he still had to get us promoted but the cynic in me still feels he cost us the championship title due to his naivety. It's also key to remember that as quickly as NA took a side from League 1 to the Premier league, he very nearly took a side from the Premier League to League 1 as quick (all RFC fans I know think they would have been relegated this season under him!) "Granted he still had to get us promoted". Twice. He got us promoted twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 "Granted he still had to get us promoted". Twice. He got us promoted twice. And undefeated at home for 12 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 Adkins did well at Saints, there's no denying that, however he isn't a legend. He inherited a good side from the Pardew regime which the foundations were already laid. Granted he still had to get us promoted but the cynic in me still feels he cost us the championship title due to his naivety. It's also key to remember that as quickly as NA took a side from League 1 to the Premier league, he very nearly took a side from the Premier League to League 1 as quick (all RFC fans I know think they would have been relegated this season under him!) Summed up perfectly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 Summed up perfectly. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Lift up a paving stone and out he crawls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 "Legend" is used far too often these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 22 May, 2015 Share Posted 22 May, 2015 I work in Reading and there are about a dozen STH in my office. Adkins has come up in conversation quite frequently and ALL of them say Reading are far better under Clarke than they were Adkins. Unanimous agreement that Reading play better football, are defensively better and the players look more fired up since NA left the club. They also highlight how much better Clarke is tactically than Adkins. Clarke has had ample time and resources to turn that club around and hasn't. Reading fans are a strange bunch so quite why you'll respect their opinion and talk down a manager that did nothing but good for us is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 23 May, 2015 Share Posted 23 May, 2015 Not really much difference to be honest, which kind of shows that Adkins wasn't really bad - he was just working in a tough environment. That's what fans don't seem to understand sometimes, Sunderland being a prime example - they go through managers like nobody's business, yet I can pretty much be sure that they're not all crap. What is crap is the club structure above the manager, which doesn't exactly create an environment for anyone to thrive. Exactly the same as Newcastle with Pardew and now Carver, Keegan before them. Clarke has had ample time and resources to turn that club around and hasn't. Reading fans are a strange bunch so quite why you'll respect their opinion and talk down a manager that did nothing but good for us is beyond me. I was answering a question on how Reading have done post-Adkins, surely the opinions of Reading STH's who watch their team every week deserve to be respected as they'll know better than anyone how they have fared. It can also be argued that our fanbase is a strange bunch. As for Clarke, he's had one transfer window with zero funds and has inherited a squad with "a losing mentality" which he managed to get to the FA Cup semi-final (which they could so easily have won). As I've previously stated, Adkins did well for us, however I have an opinion on him and it's not that he's as perfect or legendary as others may feel. Not a club legend by any stretch of the imagination, to mention him in the same breathe as MLT is ludicrous. Paul Lambert did what NA did, and did it better, yet he has a pretty bad reputation at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 23 May, 2015 Share Posted 23 May, 2015 Any Reading fan I've ever met, knows nothing about football. Equally, I know plenty of S****horpe fans (family & friends who travel home and away with them) who are very knowledgable about football and they love Nigel too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintVanderbilt Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 He (Adkins),is being linked with the Sheffield United job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 That would be a great job for him, decent sized club, good infrastructure, decent potential to push up the leagues for sure. Hope he gets a crack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 hope he gets it. bit of a drop down for the next great English manager, new fergie etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 hope he gets it. bit of a drop down for the next great English manager, new fergie etc I dunno. He would be taking over from Clough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Nigel is now 1/6 to become the new Sheffield United manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 2 June, 2015 Share Posted 2 June, 2015 Nigel is now 1/6 to become the new Sheffield United manager. Due to be announced this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 2 June, 2015 Share Posted 2 June, 2015 Oh Nige, if only you'd waited and taken the imminently available Palace or West Brom jobs instead of getting stitched up at Reading, you could have dipped in and out of bottom half Prem jobs for years, your point already made. Instead of that you've got Reading's lies smeared all over your CV and will need to repeat the Saints job at Sheffield United to get yourself back to that level again. Draw a line under it, good luck, and see you in the Prem in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 2 June, 2015 Share Posted 2 June, 2015 Adkins named Sheffield United boss - A good match, I think. He shouldn't have jumped straight into Reading when he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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