david in sweden Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 in part of a published interview in the Daily Mail...(where he recommends Arsenal should sign Morgan Schneiderlin)....Glenn Hoddle is quoted as saying; "my former club...... is something of a breeding ground for Arsenal players....(naming Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chambers etc) ..." Whilst he may be literally correct....where on Earth does he have the gall to even remotely suggest that their success has anything to do with him. (Some of our present-day young talents were still in nursery school at the time that Hoddle was manager of Saints). Those of us who think back the 15-odd years ago to when Hoddle ( then unemployed).. was offered the Saints' job.. can recall that his rather short stay was just a "time-filler" before he returned to his " spiritual home " at White Hot Lane ..(only to be booted out when Saints beat Spuds on their home turf). This has to be one of the most hypocritical statements I've seen this season ...and there have been a few more of those, too. It almost ranks with the now defunked Mauricio Pochettino, who in the midst our Saints' good early season run suggested that; (wait for it )..... that " ..Ronald Koeman's job had been made a lot easier ......because he had inherited a good team... (from him.") (Pochettino)... MP obviously didn't look too closely at what happened at SMS after he jumped ship last May, as Koeman's regular side barely contains half-a dozen of the squad that finished the previous season under Pochettino. Perhaps he ought to consider that despite inheriting £100 million-worth of players at Spuds... had it not been for their reserve team centre-forward (one Harry Kane).. Pochettino's new-look Spuds might be wallowing in a mid-table Prem spot ..or worse. ......and let's not forget Harry Redknapp's outrageous declaration that...." he had discovered Theo Walcott " whilst at SMS. Wherever Saints players end up...the real groundwork for the success of our Academy belongs with the Saints training staff, and not the " temporary" managers. We are surely well-used to the media b*llsh*t that is regularly pumped out on fans, but this is surely the height of hypocrisy. Shame on you Hoddle. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Hoddle is a tw**t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Self preservation society. Far better he talk about Saints than his latest employer, QPR, where he promoted three at the back with spectacular success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Um. Think you need to look up the meaning of the word hypocrite. I thought this thread was going to refer to the recent Football Mavericks programme where he moans that England have never utilised their creative players - despite being the manager to continually overlook Le Tiss. Actually, reading the thread again. I'm not sure what the f**k you're on about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 He's always had that side to his character, a good manager in his sojourn at Saints, but the ego was always going to intervene at some point. I do wonder, given Rodriguez recent new contract and the positive speculation with Clyne's contract, whether the big franchises' are being scared off with Lallanaesque price tags being attached to our players - no more bargains for Wenger, that is for sure. The real Spurs nutter though, is Pochettino, who seems to be under a great deal of pressure in recent weeks - perhaps Levy has given him his school report and horoscope? To attempt to take credit for Koeman's success after the press led hyena attack last summer is despicable, and the recent comment about how much Van Gaal and Koeman's had to spend compared to him (at 'big time' Tottenham) shows a breathtaking lack of respect and what looks like sheer panic. I am praying that Man City win today and we win at Man City next week, alongside chokes from Spurs and the dippers - what a season that will be, and we will be on our way from plucky player supplier for the big franchises to perpetual thorn in their sides! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 I think you're reading something into his comments that isn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 in part of a published interview in the Daily Mail...(where he recommends Arsenal should sign Morgan Schneiderlin)....Glenn Hoddle is quoted as saying; "my former club...... is something of a breeding ground for Arsenal players....(naming Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chambers etc) ..." Whilst he may be literally correct....where on Earth does he have the gall to even remotely suggest that their success has anything to do with him. (Some of our present-day young talents were still in nursery school at the time that Hoddle was manager of Saints). Those of us who think back the 15-odd years ago to when Hoddle ( then unemployed).. was offered the Saints' job.. can recall that his rather short stay was just a "time-filler" before he returned to his " spiritual home " at White Hot Lane ..(only to be booted out when Saints beat Spuds on their home turf). This has to be one of the most hypocritical statements I've seen this season ...and there have been a few more of those, too. It almost ranks with the now defunked Mauricio Pochettino, who in the midst our Saints' good early season run suggested that; (wait for it )..... that " ..Ronald Koeman's job had been made a lot easier ......because he had inherited a good team... (from him.") (Pochettino)...[emoji38] MP obviously didn't look too closely at what happened at SMS after he jumped ship last May, as Koeman's regular side barely contains half-a dozen of the squad that finished the previous season under Pochettino. Perhaps he ought to consider that despite inheriting £100 million-worth of players at Spuds... had it not been for their reserve team centre-forward (one Harry Kane).. Pochettino's new-look Spuds might be wallowing in a mid-table Prem spot ..or worse. ......and let's not forget Harry Redknapp's outrageous declaration that...." he had discovered Theo Walcott " whilst at SMS. Wherever Saints players end up...the real groundwork for the success of our Academy belongs with the Saints training staff, and not the " temporary" managers. We are surely well-used to the media b*llsh*t that is regularly pumped out on fans, but this is surely the height of hypocrisy. Shame on you Hoddle. .. Apart from three words (the factually correct "my former club") does he actually claim credit for those players? You seem to have got yourself into a bold text/italics fury about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Apart from three words (the factually correct "my former club") does he actually claim credit for those players? You seem to have got yourself into a bold text/italics fury about nothing. Plus he just highlights random words in bold for no particular reason. Comedy geniius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Apart from three words (the factually correct "my former club") does he actually claim credit for those players? You seem to have got yourself into a bold text/italics fury about nothing. well CB....perhaps it's just the proverbial straw ....in my dislike of the man ...... if he wasn't seeking to claim some sort of personal credit....why must he seek to remind everyone that he was manager here for a short time ....15 years ago? nothing that he did in his time at SFC has any bearing on the present success / attention that Saints are getting in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 in part of a published interview in the Daily Mail...(where he recommends Arsenal should sign Morgan Schneiderlin)....Glenn Hoddle is quoted as saying; "my former club...... is something of a breeding ground for Arsenal players....(naming Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chambers etc) ..." Whilst he may be literally correct....where on Earth does he have the gall to even remotely suggest that their success has anything to do with him. (Some of our present-day young talents were still in nursery school at the time that Hoddle was manager of Saints). Those of us who think back the 15-odd years ago to when Hoddle ( then unemployed).. was offered the Saints' job.. can recall that his rather short stay was just a "time-filler" before he returned to his " spiritual home " at White Hot Lane ..(only to be booted out when Saints beat Spuds on their home turf). This has to be one of the most hypocritical statements I've seen this season ...and there have been a few more of those, too. It almost ranks with the now defunked Mauricio Pochettino, who in the midst our Saints' good early season run suggested that; (wait for it )..... that " ..Ronald Koeman's job had been made a lot easier ......because he had inherited a good team... (from him.") (Pochettino)... MP obviously didn't look too closely at what happened at SMS after he jumped ship last May, as Koeman's regular side barely contains half-a dozen of the squad that finished the previous season under Pochettino. Perhaps he ought to consider that despite inheriting £100 million-worth of players at Spuds... had it not been for their reserve team centre-forward (one Harry Kane).. Pochettino's new-look Spuds might be wallowing in a mid-table Prem spot ..or worse. ......and let's not forget Harry Redknapp's outrageous declaration that...." he had discovered Theo Walcott " whilst at SMS. Wherever Saints players end up...the real groundwork for the success of our Academy belongs with the Saints training staff, and not the " temporary" managers. We are surely well-used to the media b*llsh*t that is regularly pumped out on fans, but this is surely the height of hypocrisy. Shame on you Hoddle. .. Nothing about that is hypocritical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 (edited) well CB....perhaps it's just the proverbial straw ....in my dislike of the man ...... if he wasn't seeking to claim some sort of personal credit....why must he seek to remind everyone that he was manager here for a short time ....15 years ago? nothing that he did in his time at SFC has any bearing on the present success / attention that Saints are getting in the media. So that's a no then. It's highly likely that bit was added in by the journalist ghost writing the piece anyway. "Hoddle in not claiming credit for something he knows he can't claim credit for scandal." String him up. Edited 17 May, 2015 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 If it was a ghost written piece by, say, Micky Channon, using those exact same three words would he be a hypocrite too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 For once I agree with CB Fry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Apart from three words (the factually correct "my former club") does he actually claim credit for those players? You seem to have got yourself into a bold text/italics fury about nothing. Plus he just highlights random words in bold for no particular reason. Comedy geniius I actually clicked view post just to get the link to whatever swedish dave was banging on about. Wish I hadn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Where does it say he is taking credit for the players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadesmith Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Errr Saints are his former club. Glenn is correct. Not sure the point you are trying to make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Lej Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 This and the bizarrely random Swedish domestic league update should be golden threads. More of this please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 This has to be one of the most hypocritical statements I've seen this season ...and there have been a few more of those, .. Which bit do you mean? Genuine question, I can't figure it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Classic 'Grasping at Straws to find something to moan about' Stuff. Saints won 6-1, and we can't go through the weekend without having a good old moan about something. Nice Try, but really have no idea what got you so riled up about Hoddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 20 May, 2015 (edited) This and the bizarrely random Swedish domestic league update should be golden threads. More of this please! ....was my mistake, should have been posted on Overseas Saints...... (it was obviously of no interest to you, but I was surprised to see that it has had over 700 hits so far ...) Edited 20 May, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Which bit do you mean? Genuine question, I can't figure it out. partly the fact that Hoddle and some of media "experts" came out of the woodwork to ally themselves with Saints' recent success ...(especially after the 6-1 result), but also that Hoddle (in particular) chose the phrase "my former club " when he walked out us for greener pastures without a word of apology or regret in 2001. I've nothing against anyone wanting to further their career, but IMO....the manner of his going was disgraceful and left a nasty taste in the mouth for many. Almost 15 years later, he "lovingly" refers to us as "his former club", especially when he also prised away Dean Richards, R.I.P.... soon afterwards, when Deano was (argueably) one of the best CB 's we had in a decade. (Like Lovren), Deano's career nose-dived soon afterwards....and let's not go into the MLT World Cup omission either. As you can surmise, he is not one of my favourite pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 We are one of his former clubs, he did a bloody good job here, he hasn't air brushed us off his CV like some Sandbanks resident we all know and detest, and he isn't taking credit for our young players. calm down OP ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 (edited) Couple of points 1. We are a former club ? So where is the hypocrisy 2. Arsenal are suited to Morgan, and would benefit greatly from that signing (really dont see why you're getting your knickers in a twist, its an opinion he isnt their lead scout) 3. Koemans tactics really arent far from poch, who himself was a great manager for us 4. Redknapp did play Walcott first, so whether or not he 'discovered' him he could probably get away with saying it Were you drunk when the rant took over David ? As it just goes to show the fickleness of football supporters, are we going to see a post berating Koeman in a couple of years ? Edited 20 May, 2015 by Smirking_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 I'm just wondering when Andy Townsend will admit to having played for us; it still rankles that he just stopped performing as he wanted away. But I don't lose any sleep over it, or Saggy or Hoddle or Pocchetinos behaviour.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Couple of points 1. We are a former club ? So where is the hypocrisy 2. Arsenal are suited to Morgan, and would benefit greatly from that signing (really dont see why you're getting your knickers in a twist, its an opinion he isnt their lead scout) 3. Koemans tactics really arent far from poch, who himself was a great manager for us 4. Redknapp did play Walcott first, so whether or not he 'discovered' him he could probably get away with saying it Were you drunk when the rant took over David ? As it just goes to show the ficality of football supporters, are we going to see a post berating Koeman in a couple of years ? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 What? Its a new word i made up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 Its a new word i made up The correct word is fickelaneousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 partly the fact that Hoddle and some of media "experts" came out of the woodwork to ally themselves with Saints' recent success ...(especially after the 6-1 result), but also that Hoddle (in particular) chose the phrase "my former club " when he walked out us for greener pastures without a word of apology or regret in 2001. I've nothing against anyone wanting to further their career, but IMO....the manner of his going was disgraceful and left a nasty taste in the mouth for many. Almost 15 years later, he "lovingly" refers to us as "his former club", especially when he also prised away Dean Richards, R.I.P.... soon afterwards, when Deano was (argueably) one of the best CB 's we had in a decade. (Like Lovren), Deano's career nose-dived soon afterwards....and let's not go into the MLT World Cup omission either. As you can surmise, he is not one of my favourite pundits. Ah, okay. That's not actually what hypocritical means, so it was a bit confusing. The word you were looking for is ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 20 May, 2015 Share Posted 20 May, 2015 partly the fact that Hoddle and some of media "experts" came out of the woodwork to ally themselves with Saints' recent success ...(especially after the 6-1 result), but also that Hoddle (in particular) chose the phrase "my former club " when he walked out us for greener pastures without a word of apology or regret in 2001. I've nothing against anyone wanting to further their career, but IMO....the manner of his going was disgraceful and left a nasty taste in the mouth for many. Almost 15 years later, he "lovingly" refers to us as "his former club", especially when he also prised away Dean Richards, R.I.P.... soon afterwards, when Deano was (argueably) one of the best CB 's we had in a decade. (Like Lovren), Deano's career nose-dived soon afterwards....and let's not go into the MLT World Cup omission either. As you can surmise, he is not one of my favourite pundits. How you've divined "lovingly" from nothing more than the phrase "my former club" will remain a mystery. You don't like Hoddle, fine. Lots of us don't. Why not dislike for stuff he has done, rather than getting furious about stuff he clearly hasn't done? Just a bit of advice for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 21 May, 2015 . You don't like Hoddle, fine. Lots of us don't. .....that just about sums it up for me. End of rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 21 May, 2015 I'm just wondering when Andy Townsend will admit to having played for us; it still rankles that he just stopped performing as he wanted away. But I don't lose any sleep over it, or Saggy or Hoddle or Pocchetinos behaviour.. ......yet another who chooses his words and never mentions us as one of " his former clubs " - even though he got his break into League football with Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 21 May, 2015 Share Posted 21 May, 2015 Nice edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 21 May, 2015 Share Posted 21 May, 2015 Nice edit. Did he put it in bold italics, then underline it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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