Bermuda Saint Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 The transfer circus is rolling in, and the speculations of ins and outs give every fan joy and fear. Many rumors abound, but the one hint that RK stated rings true, the biggest crack of truth from the normally veiled club, we need QUALITY AND EXPERIENCE (we need our own QE like the USA). Now that seems like an obvious statement that every coach makes. But for SFC and RK I think it carries more meaning to our transfer targets. We were pushing for a top 4 with a very good 11. To get experience to challenge at that level, we will need to buy the type of players that is rarely mentioned in the same sentence as SFC. I think RK knows what a world class player is, a game changer. We are close to having a great team, a few more quality additions will be the next step forward. So how do we achieve this with our best players departing and subs not making the grade. Without the financial clout of the big boys, buying our way to the top is not the way. We built from the ground up, developing young future stars and polished a few outcast till they shined. But to me, we have probably rode that model far enough. We cannot develop young stars in the PL like we did in the lower leagues. We will not give JWP, Reed, Gallager etc. the time to develop, not the coaches, WE the fans. Unless these kids hit the ground running and be a wonder kid, we won't have the patience we gave to spydy, lalla, fonte, etc as they played in the lower leagues. JWP is a perfect example, he seem to me to be tipped for big things, he has been in the England squad u17/19/20/21. He is not the finished article and has to now learn/develop/make mistakes in the hardest league in the world with fickle fans with short memories. How many skips, tricks did we watch lalla or bale cock up before they matured into consistent skill. If we persist in grooming to many of our academy youths into the first 11 we will not have the quality to maintain a top 7. Very difficult for the academy, our success mean a higher skill entry level for them. But if the rails fall off , they are our safety net to rebuild. Back to RK master plan........so we have moved the bar higher and I feel RK has a real taste for a run at the CL, laughable for many, but maybe not too far fetched. If we were to keep all our players this season, and add 2 quality and experienced (QE) players to that 11 we would be stronger again, theoretically. But the Fans reality is Spydy, Clyne, Toby and possibly Wya is on their way out! optimistic fans, like myself, are hoping we can sell high and buy low gems that everyone missed. Hey its worked so far!! But that may be on hold for now, as the weeks roll on, things are becoming a little clearer. Maybe we can push for the CL!!! Has the Power of RK surpassed all expectations?? could he really convince Clyne, Toby and maybe even spydy to stay! the first two look likely and wih Jrod on board this is starting to take shape. Why, because RK got serious! he has paddle with a team constantly reinventing itself and re-learning team ethos. He sees our puzzle is just missing a few pieces to do what should be the impossible, for SFC to go to CL!! He has a three year contract and probably bigger fish to fry. If he honors it and then moves to a mega club, I think he would like a good go at pushing this team to the CL places, not spend 3 years replacing and re-coaching new players in a grind to stay relevant. What would you say to the board? let our best players go to sit on a bench? buy more mediocre players in the hope they will come good?......No! offer who is here some real wages, buy two QE players, give belief back to the players that they can reach the CL with SFC, I am sure they will take pride in the David versus goliath triumph. Time to add real QE , instead of 4 mediocre players for 40 mill, give me 2 x20 mill , must be internationals. A few fill ins/hopefuls for a few mill and we should have a very good 11 with a thin bench of good players and youth. SO, we are no better off than this year! you nag....but we are! a bit, and that bit might be enough! We will not at this point in our history, be able to have a great 11 with just as good backup 11, we will have to rely on a small, quality, very good 11-14 squad with good and youth players and rely on. LUCK will be needed, there is no dilution that we will not need luck to reach the CL with such a small squad but it can be done. We will need luck so that our squad can remain healthy or key injuries are adequately filled. RK knows we have a good squad, I think he is pressing for the stars to stay with offering good money (60-80k?) and big promises, like a couple QE players. I hope this is the direction, it is plausible, and I could see us even stronger than last year. MARCH ON, SAINTS, MARCH ON! Was just reading our transfer targets, not many reaching that QE level. Although lots are sensible purchases, few reach that level that brings instant QE. A lot of players out there that I think would come to RK and SFC, we are looking for a QE ACM, one that will shoot, work hard, skill and QE, how about James Milner, if he is not wanted by the CL clubs he could be the implausible star we could need. Wants the AM role and constantly impresses me with his attitude and footballing no matter how unfashionable he is..........oops just went to look up what club he used to play for as a teen (villa) and see Liverfool are in for him.......oh well, many more out there, who could they be........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 You have just exactly explained why we cant make the CL. All that talk abou what we can do, all that positivity, and then the best realistic tarhet you can come up with is James Milner. James Milner is going to take us to the Champions League. James Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 So to summarise we need to buy quality proven players if we're going to make the top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Riveting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 James Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 James Milner is a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 James Milner City signed milner in 2010 and qualified for the CL for the first time in his first season. Coincidence? I THINK NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Too many words makes Wrensup brain go hurt hurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Why don't we sign Nani and Andersen as well. Both got champs league experience. We could have a midfield of Andersen Milner JWP Nani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 The transfer circus is rolling in, and the speculations of ins and outs give every fan joy and fear. Many rumors abound, but the one hint that RK stated rings true, the biggest crack of truth from the normally veiled club, we need QUALITY AND EXPERIENCE (we need our own QE like the USA). Now that seems like an obvious statement that every coach makes. But for SFC and RK I think it carries more meaning to our transfer targets. We were pushing for a top 4 with a very good 11. To get experience to challenge at that level, we will need to buy the type of players that is rarely mentioned in the same sentence as SFC. I think RK knows what a world class player is, a game changer. We are close to having a great team, a few more quality additions will be the next step forward. So how do we achieve this with our best players departing and subs not making the grade. Without the financial clout of the big boys, buying our way to the top is not the way. We built from the ground up, developing young future stars and polished a few outcast till they shined. But to me, we have probably rode that model far enough. We cannot develop young stars in the PL like we did in the lower leagues. We will not give JWP, Reed, Gallager etc. the time to develop, not the coaches, WE the fans. Unless these kids hit the ground running and be a wonder kid, we won't have the patience we gave to spydy, lalla, fonte, etc as they played in the lower leagues. JWP is a perfect example, he seem to me to be tipped for big things, he has been in the England squad u17/19/20/21. He is not the finished article and has to now learn/develop/make mistakes in the hardest league in the world with fickle fans with short memories. How many skips, tricks did we watch lalla or bale cock up before they matured into consistent skill. If we persist in grooming to many of our academy youths into the first 11 we will not have the quality to maintain a top 7. Very difficult for the academy, our success mean a higher skill entry level for them. But if the rails fall off , they are our safety net to rebuild. Back to RK master plan........so we have moved the bar higher and I feel RK has a real taste for a run at the CL, laughable for many, but maybe not too far fetched. If we were to keep all our players this season, and add 2 quality and experienced (QE) players to that 11 we would be stronger again, theoretically. But the Fans reality is Spydy, Clyne, Toby and possibly Wya is on their way out! optimistic fans, like myself, are hoping we can sell high and buy low gems that everyone missed. Hey its worked so far!! But that may be on hold for now, as the weeks roll on, things are becoming a little clearer. Maybe we can push for the CL!!! Has the Power of RK surpassed all expectations?? could he really convince Clyne, Toby and maybe even spydy to stay! the first two look likely and wih Jrod on board this is starting to take shape. Why, because RK got serious! he has paddle with a team constantly reinventing itself and re-learning team ethos. He sees our puzzle is just missing a few pieces to do what should be the impossible, for SFC to go to CL!! He has a three year contract and probably bigger fish to fry. If he honors it and then moves to a mega club, I think he would like a good go at pushing this team to the CL places, not spend 3 years replacing and re-coaching new players in a grind to stay relevant. What would you say to the board? let our best players go to sit on a bench? buy more mediocre players in the hope they will come good?......No! offer who is here some real wages, buy two QE players, give belief back to the players that they can reach the CL with SFC, I am sure they will take pride in the David versus goliath triumph. Time to add real QE , instead of 4 mediocre players for 40 mill, give me 2 x20 mill , must be internationals. A few fill ins/hopefuls for a few mill and we should have a very good 11 with a thin bench of good players and youth. SO, we are no better off than this year! you nag....but we are! a bit, and that bit might be enough! We will not at this point in our history, be able to have a great 11 with just as good backup 11, we will have to rely on a small, quality, very good 11-14 squad with good and youth players and rely on. LUCK will be needed, there is no dilution that we will not need luck to reach the CL with such a small squad but it can be done. We will need luck so that our squad can remain healthy or key injuries are adequately filled. RK knows we have a good squad, I think he is pressing for the stars to stay with offering good money (60-80k?) and big promises, like a couple QE players. I hope this is the direction, it is plausible, and I could see us even stronger than last year. MARCH ON, SAINTS, MARCH ON! Was just reading our transfer targets, not many reaching that QE level. Although lots are sensible purchases, few reach that level that brings instant QE. A lot of players out there that I think would come to RK and SFC, we are looking for a QE ACM, one that will shoot, work hard, skill and QE, how about James Milner, if he is not wanted by the CL clubs he could be the implausible star we could need. Wants the AM role and constantly impresses me with his attitude and footballing no matter how unfashionable he is..........oops just went to look up what club he used to play for as a teen (villa) and see Liverfool are in for him.......oh well, many more out there, who could they be........... What the he'll is wrong with you? ..... ..... No, words fail me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Reading the title, I wondered what Koeman's connection with Cunard's flaships past and present was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 RK wants quality and experience? Game changers, with real quality and experience of the CL and St Mary's? The Real hidden message in the Player Integrated Stripes Strategy videos? Our little Prince is coming home!!! Nurse, I need my medication............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 James Milner is a very good player. Isn't he signing for Liverpool ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Isn't he signing for Liverpool ? Apparently so, Liverpool won the chase to sign him over Arsenal. That's how **** he is. He is so **** despite the Man City millions he has been a fixture in their side for the last five season and has racked up 11 seasons of 35 plus games in the premier league. Yeah he's ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Steven Davis with a big neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 I thought this was a thread about Ocean Liners........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Saint Posted 16 May, 2015 Author Share Posted 16 May, 2015 You have just exactly explained why we cant make the CL. All that talk abou what we can do, all that positivity, and then the best realistic tarhet you can come up with is James Milner. James Milner is going to take us to the Champions League. James Milner Not he best option, but one very damn good one, if you can't see the qualities of Milner and what he could bring to a team, then we are on completely different football worlds. Of you read the last line, there are many very good players, if we shop in the 20 mill range some very exciting players become obtainable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 16 May, 2015 Share Posted 16 May, 2015 Quiet in Bermuda is it? Never mind, Cup Match will be around soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Not he best option, but one very damn good one, if you can't see the qualities of Milner and what he could bring to a team, then we are on completely different football worlds. Of you read the last line, there are many very good players, if we shop in the 20 mill range some very exciting players become obtainable. I don't think we could pay the wages of 20 million pound players especially if we would have to give comparable wages to the better players who are already here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 17 May, 2015 Share Posted 17 May, 2015 Steven Davis with a big neck. He does have a remarkably big neck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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