Plumstead_Saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Looks like we'll be finishing 8th if we continue our current run of form
S-Clarke Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Arsenal just have too many of the same player. Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wiltshire. They're all the same player. Jinking number 10's, who like to cut inside. I'm not sure why he thinks he can have all of those in one team, it will never work as it will just be a frustrating watch.
Mr Saints Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 I won't be blaming Arsenal. I'll be blaming one win from six against some very average sides.
monosaint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Swansea did exactly the same to Arsenal as they did to us. Defended the edge of their penalty area and looked for the break. Arsenal tried to walk it in at times and their goalie had a great game. Oh well. Man City at home for them and they'll want to cement second place. Even if Swansea draw they are still behind us. Let's not get too depressed. Anyway, if we beat Villa makes it very likely that we keep 7th.
Jonnyboy Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Swansea did exactly the same to Arsenal as they did to us. Defended the edge of their penalty area and looked for the break. Arsenal tried to walk it in at times and their goalie had a great game. Oh well. Man City at home for them and they'll want to cement second place. Even if Swansea draw they are still behind us. Let's not get too depressed. Anyway, if we beat Villa makes it very likely that we keep 7th. Villa are on fire, dont fancy our odds.
BotleySaint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 At least we have something to play for these last 2 games. Could go down to the last day.
Dalek2003 Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 At least we have something to play for these last 2 games. Could go down to the last day. Don't forget that Spuds have the advantage of a worse goal difference than us.
Saint Charlie Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 (edited) We may well need more than 3 points now from the next two. Away form in 2015 will have cost us, especially of late if we don't get 7th. 5th was there for the taking this season. When Spurs and Liverpool inevitably improve next year it will be hard to have that chance again. Edited 11 May, 2015 by Saint Charlie
Plumstead_Saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Author Posted 11 May, 2015 Villa are on fire, dont fancy our odds. Yep and unless RK can stir the boys up I can see us getting 1 point from last 2 games. We look poor ATM and are leaking goals.
SO16_Saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Funny if they catch us and spurs and we finish above spurs too
Block34 Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 So does this mean we can play mostly on Saturday's now? Oh goody!! (can never find the 'dripping sarcasm smilie' when you need to)
Trout-Tickler Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Would be disappointing to finish below them considering we were 10 points clear of them not so long ago. Been a better season than expected but in danger of going out with a whimper!
Dalek2003 Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 TBH, the Europa Cup is poison chalice. I can also imagine that Swansea will want to put the brakes on winning any more points and Spuds will be thinking along the same lines.
Turkish Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 If only we'd got knocked out of the cups early so we could get plenty of rest inbetween games. We'd be nailed on for the top 6.
hackedoff Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Whether you think that the Europa league is a waste of time or not, I , at the beginning of the season would have regarded getting into Europe as a success. Success for Saints appears to be developing young players to sell to other clubs and not a lot more matters.
Dr Who? Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 (edited) I give up predicting this lot. Beat Villa and we 'should' be fine! All ifs and buts. But, if only we beat Spurs and at least drew with Swansea at home. These 4 points would probably have seen us 6th with a chance of 5th! We have really screwed up, but we have one real last chance of getting 3 points at home to Villa...... Then we are in the hands of fate! Edited 11 May, 2015 by Dr Who?
fanimal Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 What a cack way to get 6 points, hate it, can't believe they did to Arsenal what they did to us! Feel sick at the thought they may finish above us.
SaintLiam Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 (edited) What a cack way to get 6 points, hate it, can't believe they did to Arsenal what they did to us! Feel sick at the thought they may finish above us. Arsenal's victory against us was arguably more of a technicality. Two players forced off through being hacked at by Arse players so when Toby pulled up with an injury we had to finish with 10 men. Fraser had a stormer that game though. Swansea's victory was more like ours at OT...don't get much posession, score late, defend well hell they did the exact same thing at SMS Edited 11 May, 2015 by SaintLiam
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 What a cack way to get 6 points, hate it, can't believe they did to Arsenal what they did to us! Feel sick at the thought they may finish above us. But the blames lies with us and our wretched recent form. For me Monk is a better manager than Koeman or at least he has done a better job this season.
IOWSaintDaz Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 It looks like we are throwing the Euro place away on purpose after mediocre performances in our last 2 away games , only a win against Villa on Saturday will convince me otherwise, even if we do manage a 7th place finish based on Arsenal's performance tonight I think Villa will do a Wigan and will win the cup anyway. Spurs are also trying hard to finish 8th too But I think we have the best chance Who else thinks we are throwing it away so we don't screw ourselves like Everton next season?
saint lard Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 So when we don't gain a European place.....who do we blame. Never know,we may just scrape it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 That's us finishing 8th then. I questioned why Jack Cork would move to a club like Swansea and now it looks like they're going to finish above us. This is just another event that will take the shine off this season. I still think letting Cork go is the biggest mistake Koeman's made. We'll really miss him next season.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Koeman should come out and state if he wants Europa or not. That way if we don't we can all do something else instead of bothering to turn up at SMS on Saturday to watch the same tripe again. We need to study how other teams score goals and try to do the same things ourselves. Passing sides to death with no end result is just garbage.
SuperMikey Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 I'm genuinely worried about finishing 8th - after the first half of the season we had it'd be such a kick in the balls not to have a shot at Europe (and realistically our only shot now is for Arsenal to win the cup, unless we win our last 2 games and Spurs don't). Kudos to Swansea though, I wasn't sure Monk would be up to much as a manager but he's shown some real nous and has produced results without compromising on how they play. Yeah they've shut up shop and sat deep against a few teams and got results that way but they've also completely destroyed other teams with their passing game too. With proper additions in the summer they could be a real force next season with our own Jack Cork making their midfield tick.
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 I find it a complete joke that clubs are trying to avoid qualifying for the Europa league. I know teams who have been in it haven't had particularly good domestic seasons but it's good experience if you want to be breaking into the Champions League. Isn't there even a place in the Champions League for the winner of the Europa League?
SarniaSaint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Koeman should come out and state if he wants Europa or not. That way if we don't we can all do something else instead of bothering to turn up at SMS on Saturday to watch the same tripe again. We need to study how other teams score goals and try to do the same things ourselves. Passing sides to death with no end result is just garbage. So the dreaded long ball game...............just bypass midfield.......that will work
Dark Munster Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Why would Saints lose on purpose to avoid Europa? Each position higher in the league is worth a million or so extra, and if Saints are worried about the effect of Europa all they have to do is play the kids/fringe players. Or if that gets them in trouble, play some 1st team players, but lose in the first round on purpose (as some are suggesting we are doing now).
saintalan Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Why would Saints lose on purpose to avoid Europa? Each position higher in the league is worth a million or so extra, and if Saints are worried about the effect of Europa all they have to do is play the kids/fringe players. Or if that gets them in trouble, play some 1st team players, but lose in the first round on purpose (as some are suggesting we are doing now). This!
vince Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Swansea have two tough but winnable games, we have 1 winnable game I'd say. Probably 50/50 who will come higher. Although I could see spurs losing both their games too, depends how much fight is less in hull. Or Swansea lose to Man City, Man U beat Arsenal, City are therefore almost definately second when they play us and we defy the odds and actually win at home to Villa, job done......glass being half full, obviously.
rallyboy Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Villa are safe and have a cup final to think about....that's the positive thought I'm going with.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 We don't want Europa League as a club - I thought that was pretty obvious? As soon as Liverpool didn't get to the Cup Final there was a chance that 7th wouldn't get Europa, hence Saints and Spurs form...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 That's us finishing 8th then. I questioned why Jack Cork would move to a club like Swansea and now it looks like they're going to finish above us. This is just another event that will take the shine off this season. I still think letting Cork go is the biggest mistake Koeman's made. We'll really miss him next season. He wasn't even a starter, not sure how we miss him so much.
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 We don't want Europa League as a club - I thought that was pretty obvious? As soon as Liverpool didn't get to the Cup Final there was a chance that 7th wouldn't get Europa, hence Saints and Spurs form... You jest I trust, we're sliding down the table because we can't score and we don't defend as well as we might, because we don't want to is utter bolloaks as far as EL qualification is concerned.
hasper57saint Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Why would we want not to be higher in the table? I thought the higher we finish the more dosh we get.Apologies if I'm wrong.
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 He wasn't even a starter, not sure how we miss him so much. Still he started 5 games and scored 2 goals, better than Davis who's started loads and not scored at all, or JWP with 1 penalty to his credit.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 You jest I trust, we're sliding down the table because we can't score and we don't defend as well as we might, because we don't want to is utter bolloaks as far as EL qualification is concerned. Have to agree to disagree then.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Still he started 5 games and scored 2 goals, better than Davis who's started loads and not scored at all, or JWP with 1 penalty to his credit. But he wouldn't have played ahead of Davis, they play in different positions?
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 But he wouldn't have played ahead of Davis, they play in different positions? Davis has played DM on occasions this season I think, when both Morgan and Victor were out. Can't remember which games, when they were both injured I suppose. We let Cork go before his time, there was no point in selling him off for a pittance before this summer, he's a good pro and would have done his best, we wanted the money that's all.
the saint in winchester Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Arsenal just have too many of the same player. Ozil, Ramsey, Cazorla, Wiltshire. They're all the same player. Jinking number 10's, who like to cut inside. I'm not sure why he thinks he can have all of those in one team, it will never work as it will just be a frustrating watch. Agree. Similar type of player, the attacking midfielders and an unwillingness to shoot at goal, preferring to walk it in. A bit like us. I watched a whole game of attack v defence and then heard the Swindon v Sheff Utd score! I could have been watching a goalfest on SS2!!!
the saint in winchester Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Villa are safe and have a cup final to think about....that's the positive thought I'm going with. Sherwood doesn't think that way. He said he was targetting 2 wins, and didn't even mention Wembley. Sorry to rain on your parade.
oldsarum Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Agree. Similar type of player, the attacking midfielders and an unwillingness to shoot at goal, preferring to walk it in. A bit like us. I watched a whole game of attack v defence and then heard the Swindon v Sheff Utd score! I could have been watching a goalfest on SS2!!! yes Swindon game was top notch Despite letting in 5 goals I though Jack Stephens looked very good for Swindon
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Villa are safe and have a cup final to think about....that's the positive thought I'm going with. Safe ? Not if they lose both matches and with us playing at 12 45 on Saturday they won't know the Hull/Newcastle/Sunderland results or even have any idea how those games are going. So they'll try to win and certainly won't be slacking off. the week after perhaps when their safety is assured or at least visible during the game.
aintforever Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 7th or 8th, I don't think it will make any difference, Arsenal will f*ck it up against Villa anyway. Tippy tappy sh!te.
Roo1976 Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Why would Saints lose on purpose to avoid Europa? Each position higher in the league is worth a million or so extra, and if Saints are worried about the effect of Europa all they have to do is play the kids/fringe players. Or if that gets them in trouble, play some 1st team players, but lose in the first round on purpose (as some are suggesting we are doing now). yes id be happy with that unless were challenging in europa league with a big squad that is capable of winning to gain champions league qualification then its a no no from me why suffer potential key injuries just to say we played in the europa league ,christ no one wants to play in that apart from say middle ranking italian clubs or russian only chelsea took it seriously when they played in the semis a couple of years ago no one from this league is interested.
Graffito Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Sherwood doesn't think that way. He said he was targetting 2 wins, and didn't even mention Wembley. Sorry to rain on your parade. He would say that wouldn't he.
The9 Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Koeman should come out and state if he wants Europa or not. That way if we don't we can all do something else instead of bothering to turn up at SMS on Saturday to watch the same tripe again. We need to study how other teams score goals and try to do the same things ourselves. Passing sides to death with no end result is just garbage. The numerous times he's already said it not enough for you then? Also, some of us have already bought Season Tickets for next season irrespective of where we are and what we're challenging for, never mind the last home match of this...
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