trousers Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport #saintsfc boss Ronald Koeman just confirmed to me that @AlderweireldTob dislocated his shoulder. was put back in place - early sign positive BBC Solent Sport @solentsport REACTION: #saintsfc boss Ronald Koeman speaks to @bigadamsport after 2-1 defeat at Stoke https://audioboom.com/boos/3097705-reaction-saintsfc-boss-ronald-koeman-speaks-to-bigadamsport-after-2-1-defeat-at-stoke … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Agreed Yuki, and congratulations on suddenly having a full command of the English language. Glasgows been working really hard today bless him, what he lacks in ability he more than makes up for with workrate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gammon cheeks Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 How the hell did we lose the game? Davis should have put the ball over for the first goal but defenders also slow to react:rolleyes: Europa league here we come:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Agreed Yuki, and congratulations on suddenly having a full command of the English language. Brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Given how almost everyone on here thinks boruc did no wrong here last season it's only fair to give Davis the same benefit surely I thought that sliced cross was sailing into row Z, was amazed to see it come down and hit the bar. I'm sure plenty will blame KD, but it looked to me a bit like the begovic goal last season; one of those things you can't legislate for. Also, wtf was happening with the surface?? I can't remember the last prem game I saw where so many of our players were losing their footing and so many passes went wildly astray. That late chance for stoke saw Yoshi and Fonte (I think?) both slip over trying to intercept, and that was happening all game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Another shocking performance from Steven Davis unfortunately. Preach brother preach. All I want for next season is an AM who scores goals. Phrases like "good work" "unseen job" are phrases to describe someone who cannot score a goal, something which is the basic function of their job. In no particular order of random AM's we could afford in fee and wages: Winjaldum Vilhena Myer (Schalke) Piazon Just to name a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just one of the games. The result, fortunately, has no real consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 I would just say for the money he cost Steve Davis has been brilliant but we need the occasional goal to really nail down that position his one weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd_barrett_saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Jesus ****ing Christ. How the hell did we lose that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Glasgows been working really hard today bless him Azhaz Yebda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Also, wtf was happening with the surface?? I can't remember the last prem game I saw where so many of our players were losing their footing and so many passes went wildly astray. That late chance for stoke saw Yoshi and Fonte (I think?) both slip over trying to intercept, and that was happening all game. Has to be those ridiculous bright orange/yellow boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
os862saints Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Very unhappy. We really should have got at least 1 point. We should have put the game to bed. 1st stoke goal was f***ing luck, misjudged by kelvin but still really lucky. Not much to say about the second. I like pelle but I think he needs a break. Now on to tadic. posted that I wanted him to start, he was good against hull. Today- woeful. Really didn't impact the game, not creative and gave away possession. That miss was shocking, my gran could have done better. Mane was good imo. We need to freshen up the squad and the players need a summer holiday. WE MARCH ON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just seen this on Twitter: That's annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just so ineffective upfront. Even if we had a 3 v 1 situation in attack I still wouldn't feel confident that we'd put the ball in the net. Great season and all that, but we need some genuine firepower up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just seen this on Twitter: That's annoying. Didn't our defender head it which played him onside ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Didn't our defender head it which played him onside ? yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Didn't our defender head it which played him onside ? Crouch is onside there, and the header doesnt matter if the original pass found him in an offside position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Pelle gave the ball away too much which left us under too much pressure, Tadic was poor, he is too inconsistent. Koeman takes blame for todays defeat, he could of done more to win or draw the game by brining on Long and Elia about 10-15 minutes before he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA SaintsFan Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Didn't our defender head it which played him onside ? Yes but it was still affecting the play, therefore the linesmen should've flagged him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizzpop Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 What's happened to filip djuricic? have i missed something? think he's a better option than Elia on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 What's happened to filip djuricic? have i missed something? think he's a better option than Elia on the bench He's injured. And he hasn't shown anything to suggest he's a better option than anyone, to be honest. I think, hope, that both loanies are sent back pretty sharpish once the season ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Don't post much but we were comfortable today first half, Stoke caused us no problems. It's seems we play too much in front of the opposition these days whether that is down to them finding us out and defending deep I don't know. Early second goal killed us and we couldn't respond. The only thing I could take away from the game was that Schneiderlin is too good for us it is ridiculous. When he leaves next season be interesting to see how we cope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Hugely disappointing. The simple fact is that we have not scored enough goals since January. Pelle doesn't look good enough and neither do a fair few of the others (eg Elia and Steve Davis and Tadic). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 FM16 is going to be a real beyatch to play after all our players have been downgraded accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 We deserved no more than a point from a terrible game. Kudos to the fashion kid in front of me with the ginger 'fro and grey brushed cotton Nike 2 piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Cheerio Morgan, Nat and Toby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 We seem to be making a habit of playing better football than the other team but coming out on the losing side this season. This team with a prolific striker would be a great team. Still a good season to be a saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 I don't mind losing to a better team on the day.Stoke were not the better team.As so many times in the recent past the Referee lost us the match.Clattenberg was abysmal.How the hell we got four yellows and Stoke none will remain a mystery.From our lofty position in the away end we saw foul after foul by Stoke and no bookings. They only had to fall over and out came a yellow against us.Pelle was obstructed,wrestled,elbowed and kicked but neither the Ref or the Lino on our side saw anything.Roll on next Saturday when I sincerely hope we can give Spuds their cum-uppence.With a neutral Ref we can actually win a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 How did Stoke manage not to get a yellow. Odd Incredible really. They are thuggish but because it's the whole team doing it they seem to get away with it, rather than having a Keane/Barton/Costa character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Had we had a natural goalscorer within our ranks then I feel we could still be in with a shout of the Champions League but as it is we have a midfield that, by and large, couldn't hit the proverbial cows arse and a forward line (Pelle, Long, Mane) that blow hot and cold when it comes to sticking the ball in the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Didn't our defender head it which played him onside ? That only counts if it is a deliberate back pass. Crouch was offside when the original ball was played and therefore should have been flagged when he became 'active'. That goal was just an absolute slapstick though. Fonte should have left it for a g/k and I can only assume wasn't aware of the players around him and didn't get a call. He should have booted it into the stands, rather than the tame clearance 20 yards to a Stoke defender. Then Crouch was offside and it wasn't give, everyone watched the ball, nobody picked up Mane and Davis really should have saved the shot. I know he always gets beaten low at the near post but this was chest height and almost in the middle of the goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Been back a while. Thought Pelle, Mane, Davis & in particular Tadic were poor today. Think Koeman got the formation wrong. They had 5 in midfield & if it were not for the outstanding Morgan we would have been beaten worse. I said in the pre match thread I thought Reed would have been perfect for this game. The worst of the lot................Clattenburg! Have we ever won when he has refereed? How did we get 4 bookings & them none at all? The inconsistency is amazing. Very disappointed.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just so ineffective upfront. Even if we had a 3 v 1 situation in attack I still wouldn't feel confident that we'd put the ball in the net. Great season and all that, but we need some genuine firepower up top. If we had just one decent striker then it really would have been a great season. Pelle was a gamble that did not pay off and Long was and still is only a six goal a season striker. What a pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Think Sparky got his tic tacs right and a shovel of luck today. The back weren't that good today and the front were Jaffa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Incredible really. They are thuggish but because it's the whole team doing it they seem to get away with it, rather than having a Keane/Barton/Costa character. stoke are still very much stoke. They're very, very good with what they do and are well versed on how they want to play and what's gets results. One aspect of that is being physical, but knowing just what they can and cannot get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Incredible really. They are thuggish but because it's the whole team doing it they seem to get away with it, rather than having a Keane/Barton/Costa character. stoke are still very much stoke. They're very, very good with what they do and are well versed on how they want to play and what's gets results. One aspect of that is being physical, but knowing just what they can and cannot get away with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Just seen this on Twitter: That's annoying. It's offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adysaint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 3 away games against mid table teams: Lets see how everyone else did against those teams: Arsenal WBA EVE STO 3 1 0 Man C 3 1 3 Man U 1 - 1 Liv - 1 - Spur 3 - - Saints 0 0 0 And that my friends is why we didn't qualify for the CL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 (edited) http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/243023/rate-hughes-southampton http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/243005/performance-great-result Pretty honest bunch. Edited 18 April, 2015 by cellone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Tbh, I thought we played a lot better than we did in the game against Hull. Should never have lost that match. Personally, I'd have Tadic on the bench from now on as he's complete powderpuff, brushed off the ball far to easily and doesn't work hard enough. Not Shane Long's greatest fan but at least he gives 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Kudos to the fashion kid in front of me with the ginger 'fro and grey brushed cotton Nike 2 piece. And the old bloke in the suit who spend 80 mins of the game asleep - ****ed presumably. Thought JWP looked good for the first few minutes after he came on. Stoke fans were shockingly quiet for 85 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Based purely from Motd highlights my scapegoat is Kelvin. Beaten at the near post for the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 I love how Steven Davis gets blamed. Last season he often had 4 players and much more attacking-minded FBs to pass the ball to. Now he has to figure out where to go with the ball as all he's got is an island of a striker in Pelle and two wingers who unless they're given 3000 miles ahead of them don't seem up for it. Worse than that, unlike earlier in the season, our FBs don't seem to get that much involved in our attacks. Yet this forum, much because he keeps JWP out of the side and got Cork out of the squad, has decided he is the reason Bloody Sunday happened. If any player has been hard done by Koeman's tactics this year, and has had to put up with the most rubbish of jobs, it's Steven Davis. Not that people like verlaine (Swansea not at their sharpest today eh?) or others who've decide he's the illness will see that. After all, this is still the same forum that claimed Ramirez was a superstar and that Hooiveld was the only PL-worthy player of our promotion season defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Clattenburg away is always a massively tricky fixture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 I f*cking hate not winning games against Stoke. I also f*cking hate Clattenburg who never gives Saints anything However I can't complain about the season we have had, it's been fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 I f*cking hate not winning games against Stoke. I also f*cking hate Clattenburg who never gives Saints anything However I can't complain about the season we have had, it's been fantastic. And can't complain about Clattenburg because amongst a sea of big sweaty turds he is the least smelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 It's offside It used to be, but not these days, I'm afraid. Once the defender heads it then we're into another phase. It used to be that there was no such thing as 'played-on' but they keep changing the offside interpretation. I don't like it but it's the same for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 19 April, 2015 Share Posted 19 April, 2015 Don't post much but we were comfortable today first half, Stoke caused us no problems. It's seems we play too much in front of the opposition these days whether that is down to them finding us out and defending deep I don't know. Early second goal killed us and we couldn't respond. The only thing I could take away from the game was that Schneiderlin is too good for us it is ridiculous. When he leaves next season be interesting to see how we cope Very true and the reason for playing 'in front' of the opposition? Pelle's lack of movement...... How on earth Koeman persists with him week in week out is mystifying ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 19 April, 2015 Share Posted 19 April, 2015 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/243023/rate-hughes-southampton http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/243005/performance-great-result Pretty honest bunch. Fair posts. Best summary I saw on there: "We created more chances than they did and both sides made some pretty big errors" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 19 April, 2015 Share Posted 19 April, 2015 Very true and the reason for playing 'in front' of the opposition? Pelle's lack of movement...... How on earth Koeman persists with him week in week out is mystifying ... The movement (lack of) I can put up with but why when we find him with a ball does it have to bounce off him by about 2 feet. It's a similar role to the one Rickie played last season but Rickie would hold the ball well at his feet until someone came up to lay it off too. Pelle expects others to pick up sooner. Also, pelle's flick one rarely seem to find a Saints player. But that is how we are set up to play and little point in blaming Pelle. We should also be seeing a better support from midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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