southamptonfc Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Tadic is quite one footed and links up with Bertrand very well. Why does Ron always put him on the right? Long and Mane can play either side (although Mane should be up top). I've played and watched football for 20 years and I don't understand it. I need a football genius to talk me though it please!
S-Clarke Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 It's the cutting inside aspect which all managers these days seem to prefer. You don't usually see wingers on their natural sides this days. I thought he made a positive change when he came on, wanting the ball, moving into space, gave us a bit of spark.
southamptonfc Posted 11 April, 2015 Author Posted 11 April, 2015 Yes he did OK today but remember when Tadic was top quality at the start of the season? That's when he was on the left. Since Ron started playing him on the right before xmas, things have changed. If I were manager, it would be Mane and Pelle up front with Tadic on the left and WP or Long on the right. I really think we play best with that formation.
Dig Dig Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 FB's are often the main wide outlet, having players cutting in helps to get players on the overlap and is more difficult for defenders to decide which way they should cover.
Batman Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Yes he did OK today but remember when Tadic was top quality at the start of the season? That's when he was on the left. Since Ron started playing him on the right before xmas, things have changed. If I were manager, it would be Mane and Pelle up front with Tadic on the left and WP or Long on the right. I really think we play best with that formation. didnt he start the season on the right?
Dig Dig Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 I think he's always swapped between left and right during games.
Goatboy Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 FB's are often the main wide outlet, having players cutting in helps to get players on the overlap and is more difficult for defenders to decide which way they should cover. Didn't see Toby bombing past Tadic on the overlap though.
S-Clarke Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 He's always roamed and switched sides. He played on the right side against Arsenal in the cup win, and was terrific.
Dig Dig Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Didn't see Toby bombing past Tadic on the overlap though. He did a couple of times and put a great cross in which Davis blazed over
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 It's the cutting inside aspect which all managers these days seem to prefer. You don't usually see wingers on their natural sides this days. I thought he made a positive change when he came on, wanting the ball, moving into space, gave us a bit of spark. Yup, I think Ron likes our wide players to be able to come inside with the ball on their stronger foot - especially as he put Long on the left and Tadic on the right when those are both their weaker sides. We're not the type of team that gets to the byline and whips the ball in, most of our supply from out wide comes from deep when players cut in off the flank to deliver the ball.
El Shano Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Tadic decent when he came on. Setup the open play goal. Always works well with the full back compared to other wide men and has a lot more composure than Long. Did well on the right today and has been good on the right in many games this season. Should be a starter at the moment.
Wade Garrett Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Didn't see Toby bombing past Tadic on the overlap though. We must have been at different games then.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 didnt he start the season on the right? Might have. The goal he set up at Liverpool was on the right.
Goatboy Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 We must have been at different games then. Twice maybe? Not Toby's best position for me.
SuperMikey Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Twice maybe? Not Toby's best position for me. To be fair to Toby, we haven't seen Clyne bomb forward down that right as much as we did last season - i'm not sure Ron is keen on getting the full-backs as high up the pitch as Poch did.
Turkish Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Because He plays on the left He plays on the right Dusan Tadic makes Lallana look ****e
El Shano Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Because He plays on the left He plays on the right Dusan Tadic makes Lallana look ****e Thought you had a rest during the Intl break. Very poor. **** in fact. Hope you have some new material for next season.
The Cat Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 I liked it when he turned their defender inside out 4 times when he didn't need to. Nothing came of it but so what? It was a lovely bit of skill.
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 To be fair to Toby, we haven't seen Clyne bomb forward down that right as much as we did last season - i'm not sure Ron is keen on getting the full-backs as high up the pitch as Poch did. Clyne said in a major national paper interview last Saturday that the main difference between Koeman and MP is that Ronald gives him more license to get forward and trusts his attacking play more rather than sticking rigidly to a team shape. Maybe we are just more selective of when to do it.
Turkish Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 Thought you had a rest during the Intl break. Very poor. **** in fact. Hope you have some new material for next season. How would you know? You be only been posting on here for a maximum of 11 days.
Leo_ARG Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 I liked it when he turned their defender inside out 4 times when he didn't need to. Nothing came of it but so what? It was a lovely bit of skill. That had me standing up and clapping. Hats off to you, Dusan Tadic, you bring the best of football to this team. Come on RK, enough of this benching nonsense.
Redslo Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 I thought I saw Tadic beat his man towards the end line several times and then stop and pull back as if he didn't want to risk a right footed cross. Is that what was happening or did I misunderstand?
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 I thought I saw Tadic beat his man towards the end line several times and then stop and pull back as if he didn't want to risk a right footed cross. Is that what was happening or did I misunderstand? He beat his man and put in a left footed cross? Does it matter? Surely the point is he got a cross in rather than shank it out of play or hit it at the keeper ala Long.
Redslo Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 He beat his man and put in a left footed cross? Does it matter? Surely the point is he got a cross in rather than shank it out of play or hit it at the keeper ala Long. The point is/was I a trying to understand the game better. I thought he had the chance for a right footed cross and then pulled back to put in a left footed cross. Also, while I do not remember for certain, I am not sure he always got the left footed cross in. I am not saying he did anything wrong. I am just trying to figure out what I was seeing.
Dig Dig Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 The point is/was I a trying to understand the game better. I thought he had the chance for a right footed cross and then pulled back to put in a left footed cross. Also, while I do not remember for certain, I am not sure he always got the left footed cross in. I am not saying he did anything wrong. I am just trying to figure out what I was seeing. He's very left footed
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Posted 11 April, 2015 He's very left footed Exactly. Better to have quality on his left than medicore on his right. As long as he can shift the ball to his better foot it is the same as any quality player - they want to use their best foot. As least he has one. A guy near me today wondered if either of Long's feet were decent. Harsh but (maybe) fair.
Wade Garrett Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 Twice maybe? Not Toby's best position for me. I agree that he's a better centre-back.
Verbal Kint Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 He should be playing on the left when Pelle is in the team. Pelle thrives on crosses and has a looked at his best when Bertrand and Tadic have got good crosses in from the left side, when the ball is curling away from the keeper and towards the oncoming striker. It's madness we aren't playing to his strengths IMO. if Ron doesn't want to play that way then play Long up front instead It's fine playing the likes of Bale and Robben on the wrong side because they are brilliant at cutting inside at pace and shooting but there aren't many players good enough to do that.
Leo_ARG Posted 12 April, 2015 Posted 12 April, 2015 It's the cutting inside aspect which all managers these days seem to prefer. You don't usually see wingers on their natural sides this days. I thought he made a positive change when he came on, wanting the ball, moving into space, gave us a bit of spark. Well, Dusan likes to go to the end of the pitch and cross for Pelle. Early on the season, that was how we created most of the chances. Tadic for Pelle is an effective formula. Having said that, it would help the team a lot if Dusan added that cut-in and shoot that other players do so well. It doesen't seem to come naturally for Tadic, but if he can work on it, it would do wonders for him, for the team, because it would also create more space for Pelle.
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