Redslo Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 I suspect people shouting "stop trying to hit long diagonal passes" at him for the first 6 weeks he was here did plenty for him too. I doubt it. It probably sounded like "Stop asdfoawehno;ahg passes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 FWIW Wanyama does say how much of a fan of Man U he is, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2862997/Victor-Wanyama-recovering-burgled-Southampton-star-looking-continue-Champions-League-dream-stealing-victory-against-Manchester-United.html , along with saying he'd like to play in the Champions League again. You'd have to work pretty hard at taking those out of context to come to the conclusion he wants to leave though. Even if the Mail mentions how many of our players have been burgled as of December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 Vic is a strange one. There are things he does brilliantly, and there are things he needs a lot of work on. He is still developing and didn't play much football as a kid. But when you look at what he does brilliantly, is it something that a top team is going to want? Are they things that a top team needs considering 80% of their games are against inferior opposition and they need their midfielders to contribute attacking more than defending? A Spurs, a Liverpool, probably. A team currently in the Top 4? I don't think so at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 £25m max for Morgan. It's not as if we are trying to keep him. I'm glad that you are not handling negotiations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 At least £25 million for Clyne - Shaw went for £27 million. Shaw was 18, Clyne is 24. We wont get anything like £25m for Clyne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 I'm glad that you are not handling negotiations. He has 1 year left on his contract. We hold few cards really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 He has 1 year left on his contract. We hold few cards really He's got 2 years hasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 He's got 2 years hasn't he? Morgan has 2 years, Clyne has 1. So we have more power over Morgan than we do over Clyne, that's for sure. Should still be able to get a top fee for Morgan, but don't believe it will be high as some are anticipating (£35m+, no chance) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Morgan has 2 years, Clyne has 1. So we have more power over Morgan than we do over Clyne, that's for sure. Should still be able to get a top fee for Morgan, but don't believe it will be high as some are anticipating (£35m+, no chance) £16m for Clyne, £26m for Morgan. Yeah, Batman was talking for Morgan though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 £16m for Clyne, £26m for Morgan. Yeah, Batman was talking for Morgan though... you are right, I meant clyne had 1 year left. not morgan even so, we will not be getting £35m for morgan at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 you are right, I meant clyne had 1 year left. not morgan even so, we will not be getting £35m for morgan at all The problem with the impending Schneiderlin transfer is that everyone knows we're selling, and that we'll want to replace him, so we'd rather sell quickly to help firm up our transfer budget. Often when there's an influx of money from a new tv deal you get prices creeping up as the summer goes on, other benchmark fees are set, and clubs get used to the new level of transfer costs - if you sell early you run the risk of getting in before the inflation starts - though equally you can buy early and potentially avoid it too. I don't think we'd get £35m for him at last summer's prices, who knows what might happen with the new tv money washing around every club though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 you are right, I meant clyne had 1 year left. not morgan even so, we will not be getting £35m for morgan at all No, course we won't. Ridiculous assertion that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 The problem with the impending Schneiderlin transfer is that everyone knows we're selling, and that we'll want to replace him, so we'd rather sell quickly to help firm up our transfer budget. Often when there's an influx of money from a new tv deal you get prices creeping up as the summer goes on, other benchmark fees are set, and clubs get used to the new level of transfer costs - if you sell early you run the risk of getting in before the inflation starts - though equally you can buy early and potentially avoid it too. I don't think we'd get £35m for him at last summer's prices, who knows what might happen with the new tv money washing around every club though. Buy Clasie at the beginning of summer, sell Morgan towards the end. Sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Anything above £25m for Schneiderlin will be good business; anything below £20m will be disappointing. Meh to anything in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Buy Clasie at the beginning of summer, sell Morgan towards the end. Sorted. I guess we won't get any more "you need to sell" transfer fee deflation than we will anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Buy Clasie at the beginning of summer, sell Morgan towards the end. Sorted. And Feyenoord will be thinking exactly the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 And Feyenoord will be thinking exactly the same thing. Perhaps, but I think if we were to buy Clasie that he would be a done deal very soon after the end of the season. No doubt everything has been agreed apart from the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Clyne in John Terry's team of the year. Along with Bertrand and Mané. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Wouldn't overly shock me if Chelsea came in for Mane at some stage. Was excellent in both games against them, could play wide on either side for them and wouldn't cost a lot by their standards. Very good player and should do really well next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Clyne in John Terry's team of the year. Along with Bertrand and Mané. & Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Clyne in John Terry's team of the year. Along with Bertrand and Mané. Wow. This is making me want to like John Terry now. God please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Does anyone know if players are not allowed to vote for players on their team? Seems odd he'd go for 4 Saints and no Chelsea otherwise. Half surprised he didn't put himself in. Though in fairness, he's had a p good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 & Fonte Bit of a gung ho midfield don't you think, can any of them tackle or head the ball ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Does anyone know if players are not allowed to vote for players on their team? Seems odd he'd go for 4 Saints and no Chelsea otherwise. Half surprised he didn't put himself in. Though in fairness, he's had a p good season. Ah, yes good point. Might be a bit of tactical voting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Bit of a gung ho midfield don't you think, can any of them tackle or head the ball ?? I like it. Good ol fashioned we don't care how many you score, we'll score more. I'm all for the reintroduction of this approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Ah, yes good point. Might be a bit of tactical voting! He probably figures that Clyne will win so he might as well vote for him. Notice the lack of a vote for Schneiderlin--the player most likely to compete with the better players from Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 He probably figures that Clyne will win so he might as well vote for him. Notice the lack of a vote for Schneiderlin--the player most likely to compete with the better players from Chelsea. Matic is better than morgan, there i said it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 Matic is better than morgan, there i said it I agree. I meant the other midfielders who would get votes since the ballot does not break up DM from AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 April, 2015 Share Posted 10 April, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11526017/Manchesters-dominance-of-English-football-is-over-but-United-have-the-derby-edge-over-ageing-City.html Gary Neville putting Morgan in the same sentence as Bale, Pogba and Hummels saying whoever gets him will massively boost their title chances. IMO he is easily worth £30m in todays market, maybe more due to the new TV deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Defensive midfielders rarely seem to go for more than the low twenties. Maybe there's a commercial consideration - fewer goals scored = fewer shirts sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-united/11526017/Manchesters-dominance-of-English-football-is-over-but-United-have-the-derby-edge-over-ageing-City.html Gary Neville putting Morgan in the same sentence as Bale, Pogba and Hummels saying whoever gets him will massively boost their title chances. IMO he is easily worth £30m in todays market, maybe more due to the new TV deal. but he wont go for £30m Not many do win world football for his position, let alone one that has not played a single minute of european/champions league football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 but he wont go for £30m Not many do win world football for his position, let alone one that has not played a single minute of european/champions league football Herrera was more and hasn't got a Spain cap or much of a European record. Schneiderlin is one of very, very few outstanding players in his position in the league. Fernandinho cost Man City 40m, Mangala over 30 too. With the new TV deal as well prices this summer will probably be higher and he is a proven class PL player. If there is a bidding war it will work in our favour but we shouldn't resign ourselves to taking less than he is worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Herrera was more and hasn't got a Spain cap or much of a European record. Schneiderlin is one of very, very few outstanding players in his position in the league. Fernandinho cost Man City 40m, Mangala over 30 too. With the new TV deal as well prices this summer will probably be higher and he is a proven class PL player. If there is a bidding war it will work in our favour but we shouldn't resign ourselves to taking less than he is worth. I thought the TV deal started the NEXT summer, not this we wont be getting £30m+ for a player who wanted out a year ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 I thought the TV deal started the NEXT summer, not this we wont be getting £30m+ for a player who wanted out a year ago Doesn't make a huge difference IMO. We know he is going but he has 2 years left on his contract so we hold the strong position, especially if multiple teams want him. France Intl, still young, proven PL quality. Probably the 2nd best of his type in the league. Less than 30m is disappointing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Doesn't make a huge difference IMO. We know he is going but he has 2 years left on his contract so we hold the strong position, especially if multiple teams want him. France Intl, still young, proven PL quality. Probably the 2nd best of his type in the league. Less than 30m is disappointing IMO. you will be disappointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 you will be disappointed Perhaps, one of the biggest problems in an future deal is that Cabaye will be available for not a lot as likely as not and that will fill a spot in a very limited market unless of course he (Cabaye) decides to opt for Marseille or Monaco for just the money. Khedira is for free (well and a lot of salary) and that takes up another place amongst the needy in the DM department. Just have to wait and see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Cabaye is not a DM. He's exactly what we could do with (he wouldn't come to us though) but he's not a DM. More of a deep lying playmaker. A footballing quarter back, if you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Considering the market, competition I'd easily expect over £30 million for Morgan. Anything less would be very weak from our board, to be honest they should be pushing closer to £40 million. Not many out there as good as him, none ready adjiusted to Prem football and he's a player the Utd & Arsenal in particular really need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 £30m would not surprise me. Some fans will be surprosed with price if he does go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 I can't see Schneiderlin going for less than 25M. He's our best player, a France international, and with 3 seasons excelling in the prem. If we get less than that for him I'd be very surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 I can't see Schneiderlin going for less than 25M. He's our best player, a France international, and with 3 seasons excelling in the prem. If we get less than that for him I'd be very surprised. Agree and would change your fee to 30m. Good to see you, Graeme and his nipper today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 I thought the TV deal started the NEXT summer, not this we wont be getting £30m+ for a player who wanted out a year ago doesn't it just come down to supply and demand though? Few teams might really want him, he'll go to the highest bidder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 £16m for Clyne, £26m for Morgan... Nice if there's any truth in this... http://www.squawka.com/news/man-united-gearing-up-a-e37million-transfer-for-nathaniel-clyne/352211 A lot of Euros for a player with just a year left on his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 Nice if there's any truth in this... http://www.squawka.com/news/man-united-gearing-up-a-e37million-transfer-for-nathaniel-clyne/352211 A lot of Euros for a player with just a year left on his contract. No chance. Love to be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 11 April, 2015 Share Posted 11 April, 2015 No chance. Love to be proven wrong. Probably, wonder how much Chelsea want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Latest Morgan rumour. About the only thing that would surprise people would be the price.... Arsenal have finalised a deal with Southampton for the transfer of Morgan Schneiderlin, according to reports in the Daily Star. Gunners scouts have been tracking the Frenchman all season and now look to be closing in on their man. Schneiderlin has starred for Saints this campaign on the back of a summer which saw him try and force a move away from St Mary's. The prospective deal will cost Arsenal a fee in the region of £15m. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/arsenal-news-transfers-gunners-agree-5540835#rlabs=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Chelsea and Spurs both 10/1: what b*****ks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 Chelsea and Spurs both 10/1: what b*****ks. why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 18 April, 2015 Share Posted 18 April, 2015 why is that? Do you genuinely believe Spurs have the same chance as Chelsea of signing him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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