angelman Posted 10 July, 2015 Posted 10 July, 2015 Presume that we get on quite well with Celtic having given them £22m in the past couple of seasons.
Bewildered Posted 10 July, 2015 Posted 10 July, 2015 Can't wait to read some posters reactions on here if we sign the names i have been told. My own opinion is i think they will be good additions. Football fans are so fickle that doesn't narrow it down much. What are we talking about here? Ron Vlaar or another freebie? A player from a big club that struggles to make the team and generally has a poor reputation with fans and press (examples: Jonny Evans, John Obi Mikel, Fabio Borini)? A lower league or SPL player that we can complain is unproven? A player from a foreign league who had previously failed to impress in England? A Foreign player nobody will have ever heard of A player with a reputation for bad behaviour/poor attitude. Andros Townsend? Whoever we end up bringing in, whether it ends up being the player everyone wants or someone seemingly less desireable, judgement should be reserved until they actually start playing competitive games for us.
Shance Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Would like one of them to be Van Beek. I'd much prefer him over Van Dijk.
Saint_Tony Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Sounds like it might be along the lines of another underwhelming (for some) Shane Long type signing, maybe Scott Dann, or Curtis Davies? Wouldn't mind either, although I'm only speculating and have no idea.Hopefully not Vlaar though. Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk
Batman Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Presume that we get on quite well with Celtic having given them £22m in the past couple of seasons. I'm sure scouser feel they have that relationship with us.
JoeShmoe Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Nice to see that this time, whoever we are looking at, their agents and clubs we are dealing with haven't spouted off to the press - be good to get some deals over the line but it always takes time. Have patience grasshoppers! FWIW I would be happy with any of VVD, Clasie, Moreno, Imbula , Austin or the guy from Seville and am hoping we could get two of these if we are lucky
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Doesn't matter of the cost but after Toby it needs to be a player of similar quality otherwise we won't be as good a team.
Sour Mash Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Can't wait to read some posters reactions on here if we sign the names i have been told. My own opinion is i think they will be good additions. You may as well stick the names up then.
Nolan Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Bound to be Vlaar and Elia then. Vlaar would be a good addition. Knows Koeman from feyenoord 11/12. As Iong as there are no issues with the persistant calf injuries would arguably be the easiest to slot into a Koeman defence. Last season he was arguably effected by his injury punctuated season. Sent from my HTC Desire 310 using Tapatalk
Saint_Tony Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 If we're looking at getting these deals soon, will this include a replacement for Morgan or will we wait? And whilst we are waiting I will guess another player - Redmond Sent from my D5803 using Tapatalk
wanyamaisatank Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 why is everyone convinced it's Vlaar? unless I'm missing something here??
jamesfp1 Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Reed and many trusted journos have said its not Vlaar.
van Hanegem Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 We should try and get a decent centreback, and just have a hunch that we will go for Clasie irrespective of the Morgan situation. After Cork's departure we were short anyway, and Clasie can play further forward if needed given his range of passes. That would be a great idea! Clasie will need time to adapt to the club and the PL and this way he will be ready for next year when Schneiderlin leaves. It will be more expensive than planned off course given the fact that Schneiderlin will be sold for a much lower fee while Feyenoord does want at least 10 million pounds. But with all the cash coming in last summer, that doesn't have to be a problem or is it?
diggs Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Ron Vlaar had a awful season last year just because he had a good 5 or 6 games at the world cup does not make him a decent player, there is a reason he has stayed at Villa fighting in the lower half of the table because he not good enough for the top half of the prem. Besiktas are in for him also hopefully they get him. Some chap on the Celticforum said Van Dijk was in talks with us and Swansea not sure how true that is but fits the bill with what we are looking for.
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 I can see Van Dijk being a target. And one which wouldn't ''underwhelm'' me what so ever. Terrific centre back. Was speaking to a Celtic fan I work with and he thinks van dijk wouldn't look out of place in the pl. but he did say that there had been no rumours and that due to them playing cl quals soon that anyone that doesn't want him cup tied needs to get a move on.
simo Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Posted 11 July, 2015 If he could avoid playing like he did at St Mary's last season, then that would be great. Probably the worst Cb to play at St Marys last season !
S-Clarke Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Probably the worst Cb to play at St Marys last season ! I dunno, Williamson pushes him close.
Saint Garrett Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Think I'd prefer Yoshida and Gardos to Vlaar.
simo Posted 11 July, 2015 Author Posted 11 July, 2015 Issue with vlaar is that he appears so friggin slow Is he called concrete Ron because it looks like his feet are set in the stuff when he runs!
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Bit unfair on vlaar - didn't look good at SMS admittedly but was not helped by sherwoods tactics. Any cb that gets turned that high up the pitch is going to struggle. I'm not saying we should buy him but let's not just look at him from a 90 min perspective.
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Was speaking to a Celtic fan I work with and he thinks van dijk wouldn't look out of place in the pl. but he did say that there had been no rumours and that due to them playing cl quals soon that anyone that doesn't want him cup tied needs to get a move on. Would playing in the CL cup tie him for the EL?
saint97 Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Can't believe Newcastle have signed Wijnaldum and almost Mitrovic. Doing better than us at the minute.
stevewanyamasfcs Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Can't believe Newcastle have signed Wijnaldum and almost Mitrovic. Doing better than us at the minute.
Bananaman Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Can't believe Newcastle have signed Wijnaldum and almost Mitrovic. Doing better than us at the minute. :mcinnes:
Saint IQ Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 In reference to signing Vlaar, John Terry isn't exactly fast and he is considered one of the best in the premier league
Batman Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 In reference to signing Vlaar, John Terry isn't exactly fast and he is considered one of the best in the premier league It also helps that he a much better defender
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Caulker could fit? Gets relegated all the time but Saints have been keen before.
verlaine1979 Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 They aren't bad signings to be fair... Potentially a cut above van Wolfswinkel and Fer anyway, so perhaps a little more legitimacy than the last time people on here were envious of another team's summer recruitment. Obviously, both Wijnaldum and Mitrovic could flop badly in the Prem, but the latter in particular seems to finish like a young Rickie Lambert if you watch his highlight reel, so I'd say whoever signs him could certainly justify approaching the season with a little optimism.
Shance Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Probably the worst Cb to play at St Marys last season ! Naaa, Vergini was much worse.
Window Cleaner Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Naaa, Vergini was much worse. Fantastic own goal though....put us on the road to 8.
Suhari Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Caulker could fit? Gets relegated all the time but Saints have been keen before. Wasn't he shown around Staplewood last Summer? I'd be happy enough with him coming in.
Stu Man Do Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Wasn't he shown around Staplewood last Summer? I'd be happy enough with him coming in. Pretty certain RK said at one stage that there had never been any interest in Caulker.
Matthew Le God Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 I'd be happy enough with him coming in. Really? He'd be a big drop in quality from what we are used to.
Saint IQ Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Enjoy relegation next year you ****, delusional rabble. Forever a selling club. So much hate, so little intelligence Poor you.
AdrianC Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Enjoy relegation next year you ****, delusional rabble. Forever a selling club. I guess Lemmings can't see the irony..... "To refer to an individual as a lemming thus became synonymous with calling them a follower of a large group--a community on an unthinking course towards mass destruction." Or...... "lemming A member of a crowd with no originality or voice of his own. One who speaks or repeats only what he has been told. A tool. A cretin."
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Would playing in the CL cup tie him for the EL? Dunno
Miltonaggro Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 Can't believe Newcastle have signed Wijnaldum and almost Mitrovic. Doing better than us at the minute. Wijnaldum would have been a strong signing for us. Have to trust that the Board have some gems lined up...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 July, 2015 Posted 11 July, 2015 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/everton-southampton-set-battle-out-6049644 Another Vlaar report.
saint_ed Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Wasn't he shown around Staplewood last Summer? I'd be happy enough with him coming in. No he wasn't, that was a claim from someone on here, which I know to be untrue. He would be a big drop from Toby and Lovren.
Badger Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 I know some people will disagree, but I think our attack is quality tbh. One of the most all round attacking units we've had since we've been back in the PL. Mane, Long, Jay, Pelle, Juanmi, Tadic, Hesketh, Isgrove, Gallagher (And then you've got Gaston as well, who I don't know if he will stay around) There's a bit of everything there. Pace, strength, height, mobility, technique, work-rate. Yes, there's a bit of everything... bar a proven goalscorer. I don't doubt our build up play will be great to watch, but fear we may still lack a cutting edge.
Saint Charlie Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Yes, there's a bit of everything... bar a proven goalscorer. I don't doubt our build up play will be great to watch, but fear we may still lack a cutting edge. Jay Rod got 16 or 17 in the PL the season he got injured (missing the last few games). Thats up there with anyone bar the Suarez, Aguero types. Mane has a good goal record. Pelle has scored pretty consistently at club level the last 3 years. Long will always miss presentable chances but otherwise our finishing is pretty good I would say. Juanmi its hard to say. Expect more goals from Tadic, JWP and Davis though this season.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Yes, there's a bit of everything... bar a proven goalscorer. Pelle, Mane and Rodriguez have all scored good amounts of Premier League goals in their last season in the league. How are they not "proven goalscorers"? Plus we have Long and Juanmi as options, and Gallagher and Seager progressing through the ranks.
svetigpung Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Expect more goals from Tadic, JWP and Davis though this season. This. Our midfield must start putting away their chances. Apart fron Mané, we suffer through the numerous misses by Misters Davis and WardProuse. Especially as two DM dont contribute much either. Hope they put in some shooting practice during the summer. And i dont mean dead-balls outside the area, but simpler side-footers under pressure.
Saint Charlie Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Pelle, Mane and Rodriguez have all scored good amounts of Premier League goals in their last season in the league. How are they not "proven goalscorers"? Plus we have Long and Juanmi as options, and Gallagher and Seager progressing through the ranks. So basically as I said, 6 minutes before? LOL.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 So basically as I said, 6 minutes before? I had the thread open for a while and didn't refresh it, so I had no idea what you said until I clicked post.
Saint_lambden Posted 12 July, 2015 Posted 12 July, 2015 Expect more goals from Tadic, JWP and Davis though this season. Davis couldn't finish his dinner.
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