Leicestersaint Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Very poor - our inability to score goals has proven very costly since early February. We're losing lots of points.
Batman Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 played well in parts. decent up till we get to the final 3rd. even then, we put some balls in the area. Vic my saints MoM Tadic good when came on JWP did well Not sure why we would keep Elia. Very very poor Djuricic seems a tad pointless too Pelle was very crap. We really would be better with him as an option on the bench. Just a crap lone striker
SuperMikey Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Everton defended well and sat really deep to stop us getting anything as soon as they went ahead. Made it very difficult for us to get anything from the game. Back to the drawing board, Top 4 is gone but lets focus on maybe snatching 5th.
S-Clarke Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 To be fair, the only way we were going to score was for someone to type 1 before our name. Good result.
BotleySaint Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Same system every week fails to deliver (except on the very very odd occasion). Tactically need to rethink. Starting with dropping Pelle.
Baird of the land Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Top 4 dream ended most likely with that result. One of those games where 1st goal was important and we conceded a very soft one. Everton are a decent team despite their current league position. First half we looked more threatening. Pelle should have done better(though it was a nice save by Howard) and JWP needs to get his free kicks on target. 2nd half we completely ran out of ideas. Was there even a shot on target. Struggling to see how Pelle deserves his place in the starting line up currently. Hopefully next week davis will be back and it'll be Tadic, Mane, Long up top.
Saints foreva Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Frustrating performance. Everton defended well but think that's more to do with our slow attacks. We were very easy to defend against.
nta786 Posted 4 April, 2015 Author Posted 4 April, 2015 To be fair, the only way we were going to score was for someone to type 1 before our name. Good result. aha oopsy. Mods please change that lol.
Roger Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 To be fair, the only way we were going to score was for someone to type 1 before our name. Good result. Good result? Are you am Everton fan?
Elias Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 hmmm, top 4 OVER. lets get top 6 lads Thanks for getting my hopes up with that title. Idiot.
kermitsaint Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Why does the entire team insist on attacking as slow as humanly possible ? We rarely look dangerous and seem to go out of our way to avoid scoring .
trousers Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Every chance we'd have got a result if Howard doesn't make a wonder save to deny Pelle early on. And theirs was a soft goal too. Fine lines, but that doesn't disguise a lacklustre performance.
tobes8 Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Toothless in the final third once again and once again our decision not to get a striker in the window has well and truly shown again. Top 4 probably not but we will nevet ever get a better chanc. Been a great season though but just a few things we should have built upon. Everton were pretty poor though but using an excuse that we never get anything there doesn't cut it.
redkeith Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Ellias was very poor today. At times we got into some good positions, but only put in one half decent cross, the one Howard made the worldie from form Pelle. Other than that, and the JWP long and Free kick , that was it really. Please Mr Reed can you get us a proper Number 10. Someone to score goals, create goals and also take free kicks and corners. However much everyone likes JWP and Davis there are no stats that suggest that they are remotely suited to that position, unless you want them to do a job, like JWP marking Carrick at Old Trafford.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Why does the entire team insist on attacking as slow as humanly possible ? We rarely look dangerous and seem to go out of our way to avoid scoring . Now, there`s a strange theory
S-Clarke Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Ellias was very poor today. At times we got into some good positions, but only put in one half decent cross, the one Howard made the worldie from form Pelle. Other than that, and the JWP long and Free kick , that was it really. Please Mr Reed can you get us a proper Number 10. Someone to score goals, create goals and also take free kicks and corners. However much everyone likes JWP and Davis there are no stats that suggest that they are remotely suited to that position, unless you want them to do a job, like JWP marking Carrick at Old Trafford. Elia is pointless. I don't see what he does. He doesn't seem to be able to beat a player, doesn't seem too quick, can't cross. Waste of a place If we buy him, someone needs shooting. He's trash.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 last third we are slow ponderous and very predictable
Window Cleaner Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Did not someone inform me that Everton's defence is awful? Well it isn't, it's far better than our attack...now that's awful of late.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 last third we are slow ponderous and very predictable It's called Pellè, original Italian statue.
nta786 Posted 4 April, 2015 Author Posted 4 April, 2015 well I'm gonna go watch dortmund vs bayern now... i'll come back on forum when things have calmed down a bit.
Lighthouse Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I would start the next match with Mane, JWP, Long and Tadic and see what that brings us.
hackedoff Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Very poor - our inability to score goals has proven very costly since early February. We're losing lots of points. Only 11 league goals all season from Pelle and Long. Shocking return for the money.
Mallagroth Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 It's called Pellè, original Italian statue. It's not just pelle but he doesn't help. None of the midfielders are making runs into box either.
verlaine1979 Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 We've been lacking in ideas and confidence up front for a couple of months now. Transition into attack is so slow unless we're hoofing it at Pelle, and there's no confidence in our decision-making. The player on the ball seems to want time to assess every option before making a pass, which is tolerable when trying not to surrender cheap possession in the middle of the pitch, but counter-productive in attack. Pelle isn't playing well, and if he weren't on the pitch we'd probably play with a bit more discipline and play fewer long balls, but he isn't the real problem. We seem to be creating only one or two genuine scoring chances per game, which even the very best strikers are only going to convert at a rate of about 1 in 3. So unless we'd gone out in January and acquired an exceptional striker who both created and finished his own chances, we'd still be in exactly the same place, toiling away in possession but creating only scraps.
Chez Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Thought Vic looked tremendous in the first half. Defensively we looked solid, and we at least stepped it up in the second half. That's it though. That's the end of the positive elements. I still don't understand why Long gets a game ahead of Mane or why Ward Prowse gets in the side right. Will,we ever win at Everton?
Plumstead_Saint Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Really struggle to find a MOM today - Tim Howard? We really are poor ATM. No goal threat at all. The number of misplaced passes was shocking, and we clearly weren't bothered about pressing. Didn't play it out from the back once; far too many hoofs. Elia kept losing the ball, and the midfield were not good. Pellé's holdup play was poor, as were our corners. I'd rather see Long on the end of crosses than making them. One of our poorest performances for me.
david in sweden Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 ......just 5 goals in the last 9 League games ....and one of those was an " own goal.":scared: It's obvious that people seem to blame Pelle and Long, but there is nothing from the midfielders either.....
Mallagroth Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 The only two of our attacking players I'd keep if it was in my hands would be tadic and mane, I'd replace the rest. Long works hard but has an abysmal record and isn't a striker at the level the club is aspiring too, pelle has had all the chances in the world but is actually getting worse, djuricic and Elia can't see the point of keeping on at the moment.
scotty Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 It's not just pelle but he doesn't help. None of the midfielders are making runs into box either. I didn't see any of today's game, been at work. But got to say, Pellè for a while now doesn't seem to have had any runners to feed the ball to. Its all very well talking about holdup play, but if nobody's making those runs, what's the point?
Mallagroth Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I didn't see any of today's game, been at work. But got to say, Pellè for a while now doesn't seem to have had any runners to feed the ball to. Its all very well talking about holdup play, but if nobody's making those runs, what's the point? if you've watched most of our recent games then you've basically watched that match already. Opposition attempts counterattacks to sneak a goal then puts all bodies behind the ball. Saints dominate possession passing it in a semi circle around the oppositions 11 men. Sometimes it gets hoofed to pelle who invariably chests it into the path of an opposition player, long runs around like a madman but rarely in a constructive way. We hit the post or narrowly miss with the 3 obligatory chances we get in the game.
broncoboy Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Really struggle to find a MOM today - Tim Howard? We really are poor ATM. No goal threat at all. The number of misplaced passes was shocking, and we clearly weren't bothered about pressing. Didn't play it out from the back once; far too many hoofs. Elia kept losing the ball, and the midfield were not good. Pellé's holdup play was poor, as were our corners. I'd rather see Long on the end of crosses than making them. One of our poorest performances for me. But hey where are all those smart arses now crowing about how Pelle has come good. The stats don't lie he is a very poor striker He was an average striker before he came and now he is way below average. Shane Long was never top drawer and sure ain't now If your two main strikers are at best average you will struggle to make top six To put it simply Pelle is **** poor, the stats prove that
captainchris Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I didn't see any of today's game, been at work. But got to say, Pellè for a while now doesn't seem to have had any runners to feed the ball to. Its all very well talking about holdup play, but if nobody's making those runs, what's the point? Sorry but completely wrong. Couldn't be more wrong if you tried I'm afraid. Here is the problem. Pelle is imobile! He relies on every one else to make the runs whilst he stands still with back to goal. Ok he sometimes lays the ball off but then again doesn't bust a gut to move defenders around or get into scoring positions. Mane up the middle with Long has looked better. This continuous Pelle ****fest with Koeman is holding us back..... Koeman is not learning the lessons...... Mr back to goal Pelle - time is up....
SuperMikey Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 JWP made some good runs into attacking positions today, but then he was inexplicably brought off when Elia did the square root of f*ck all for the time he was on the pitch.
Hodgey Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I'm not sure Pelle is poor, but it's certainly been a season of two halves for him. If anything Getting Djuricic and Elia in has harmed us as we keep changing the am 3 every week and it isn't working. We never play well if Davis isn't playing, he's the only one who can link our def mid with the attackers. We were unlucky to lose today and a draw would have been a decent result - we do need a massive rethink on set pieces and corners though, we are getting to the stage where we may as well just give the ball to the gk rather than bother slinging it in for him to punch or the centre half to head out. I agree with others on the striker front - we've spent 45m on strikers currently on our books but JRod aside they are average or poor. Our record in buying strikers recently is not good so let's hope we produce (and hold onto) one.
Wade Garrett Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 (edited) Not making any sort of judgement, but why was Mane sub today? Has he been on a long international trip? Edited 4 April, 2015 by Wade Garrett
trousers Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Southampton FC @SouthamptonFC #SaintsFC boss @RonaldKoeman on today's defeat: "I'm disappointed with the result but not about the performance of the team." "I think we played on a good level, we had some good chances in the first half and we received an unlucky goal." #saintsfc "That made it more difficult but we still did everything and tried everything until the last second but it wasn't enough." #saintsfc "After the 1-0 we kept our organisation on the pitch and we tried everything to score the goal. They defended very well." #saintsfc "The frustration is all about if you get chances and don't score. We deserved more today but that's football." #saintsfc "I'm proud of what the players showed today and the support of the fans. We keep going." #saintsfc
verlaine1979 Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 We never play well if Davis isn't playing, he's the only one who can link our def mid with the attackers. I hate to break it to you, but he's played in 7 of our last 9 games, during which we've generally been woeful in attack. If you think Steven Davis is the answer to our problems in attack, you're asking the wrong question (though I'll admit, 2nd half against Burnley he had his best 45 minutes since the 2nd half against Everyone at home).
Bearsy Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I thought we were slightly better than Everton. Normally I would be Quite Pleased with that, especially at Goodison, but today felt like Everton was there for the taking + we could've Done Better. They was Pretty Garbage
Hodgey Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I dont think he is the answer no, but I do think we are worse without him and yet to see anything to convince me otherwise. Not sure what that says about those who play when he doesn't mind........
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 A must win game lost. Need to beat Hull now next week & hope Burnley do us a favour tomorrow.
Chez Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 I dont think he is the answer no, but I do think we are worse without him and yet to see anything to convince me otherwise. Not sure what that says about those who play when he doesn't mind........ It tells me that Prowse is not yet quite good enough, as he is the one that often replaces him.
Convict Colony Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Have I missed Alpine or does he support someone else now ? Alps are you still alive amigo :-)
Saint_Tony Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Shame the season has ended like this. We should just about scrape 7th, can't see us winning more than a couple more games at best. Still, a great achievement for a side whose main striker hasn't scored this year. We need to start planning for the Europa League now.
saintant Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Strange decision to start with Elia and JWP and leave out Mane and Tadic.
Window Cleaner Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Strange decision to start with Elia and JWP and leave out Mane and Tadic. Koeman got it wrong, then again he often does.
S-Clarke Posted 4 April, 2015 Posted 4 April, 2015 Koeman got it wrong, then again he often does. Yeah, always gets it wrong. Utterly horrific manager.
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