St Marco Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Gota love the hypocrites who say your bad for smoking but yet happily get fooked on alcohol. Wont be long until you wont be able to even do that probably.
Draino76 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 I have no problem with this. So what your saying is you cant cope without a cigerette for two hours? No I can't; not watching that s h i t e. Toilets for me.
Micky Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 I think that a few here need to dismount thier high steeds....!! The originator is not advocating that smoking be allowed in SMS at all. He admits to the fact that he tried to find an unoccupied area where he had a crafty smoke - he got nicked and was ejected. All he is asking is for 'proper smoking facilities or arrangements' to be afforded to him in or around the ground. The way some of you are reacting is as if he wants to light up, blow smoke all over you and your kids, stub his fag out in your eye and litter the remnants all over the stadium. That is not what he is suggesting - he would like a sensible solution to the problem. Fair enough if the club decide the problem is not worth sourcing a solution to allow for smoking clientel then sobeit. But lets not all mount our lofty steeds and blame the originator for the state of our air and how it's drastically affected our own, and childrens health and wellbeing. All the guy wants is a quiet cigarette ffs.
Baj Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 The whinging landlords bleat that it's due to superstores selling beer really cheap & they can't compete. Bollix. I spend my money instead at Morrisons where I can buy a crate of 20 bottles of Becks for a bloody tenner! god bless yer....
trousers Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 No I can't; not watching that s h i t e. Toilets for me. Mind you don't bump into me having a J.Arthur in trap 2
Draino76 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Mind you don't bump into me having a J.Arthur in trap 2 Should really combine both activities for ultimate satisfaction. Not me and you, but smokin and the J Arthur! I'll do this about 15 minutes into the Man yoo game.
trousers Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 right, for all you hardline, 'dont poison me or my children with your smoke', idiots, just how much poisonous fumes do you think come out the back of a car and then multiply that by 300 000 at least, just in southampton. you are quite happy to take your children to school, usually by car these days and pollute the air far more efficiently than i ever could, but you just dont see the irony. Ah, ye olde 'compare a necessary evil Vs an unnecessary evil' philosophy. I was just thinking it was about time for that old chestnut to be wheeled out (pun intended).
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Yep. Done that. And the finances suggest we should legalise and tax all narcotics. Perhaps we should base all of society's decisions on cost alone....? They already do with specialist drugs for terminally ill people.
Junction 9 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Which is what they used to do at The Dell - they did for the West Stand anyway... A point I was about to raise. You couldn't smoke in the West stand at the Dell because of fire regulations. I used to wander out into the carpark, have a ciggie and wander back in. It didn't seem to cause any problems back then. I don't see how a little roped off area outside the exit would cost anymore to steward, they would just be outside instead of on the concourse.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 If you saw smoke rising from behind a cubicle door in the toilet at SMS, would it be unreasonable to assume that the occupant is on fire? So that you are at liberty to try and save their life by the liberal application of the contents of a fire extinguisher or hose? They could hardly have a go at you, knowing fully well that you have saved their life!
Draino76 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 If you saw smoke rising from behind a cubicle door in the toilet at SMS, would it be unreasonable to assume that the occupant is on fire? So that you are at liberty to try and save their life by the liberal application of the contents of a fire extinguisher or hose? They could hardly have a go at you, knowing fully well that you have saved their life! The smoke may be a result of excessive thwacking going on in there, so not reaally.
trousers Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 If you saw smoke rising from behind a cubicle door in the toilet at SMS, would it be unreasonable to assume that the occupant is on fire? Or the new pope is a Saint.....?
Junction 9 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 The smoke may be a result of excessive thwacking going on in there, so not reaally. I have apologised for that. let it rest.
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 i'm not complaining about the legislation, i happen to think its a good thing, i'm talking about the club resting on their laurels. they should be trying to do everything possible to get people through the turnstile. Yep but then they'd have to have a part of the stadium which isn't a "public building or space" wouldn't they. Saints have no choice, do what the lab assistants at my place do-go out****ingside. In their case they have to jog down to the the street gate cos it's all a public "space" including the grounds. They get sacked if they get caught inside.
kelkel31 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 i havent read the whole thread, so may have missed this point being made somewhere in the middle, but points have been made about it being the law not to smoke in public buildings, and being a smoker i have aboded by this law, doesnt cause me too much of a problem, but one big deference in this case id that with most public buildings, even places where payment is made for entry you have the ability to both leave and re-enter thus being able to smoke out of the way whilst still be able to go about our normal lives. sms in the infinite wisdom will not allow you to re-enter the stadium if you leave, why? we dont need to be penned in and supervised we just want to go outside and return to see a game we have paid to see. do they have extra stewards before the game to supervise entry into the stadium in the first place, i dont think so, so why cant half of them be assigned to check people in and out at half time, its not as if we dont have some sort of ticket to prove we have paid to see the game is it!
.comsaint Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 god bless yer.... Oh dear - someone else a bit slow today. Let me spell it out for those a wee bit 'dim'. The reason landlords are complaing like mad that the pub trade is dying is that supermarkets sell very cheap booze & they cannot compete. They barely ever mention the smoking ban - only the price comparison of a pub & supermarket. I used to drink regularly in pubs - but due to the ban - I no longer visit any pubs - only in the summer when I can sit outside. Because of the ban - I now buy cheap crates of ale from the supermarkets & stay at home where I can happily smoke away all I want. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the cost of a pint in a pub that stopped me going - money isn't an issue thankfully. The only thing that stopped me going was the smoking ban. And the same goes for many thousands upon thousands of other people up & down the country too. Instead of give us the CHOICE of "smoking" or "no smoking" pubs - they elected to ban it in all pubs - and now many are paying the price. The whole non-smoking ban was ill-concieved and executed. That's this government all over. We don't like it = we ban it.
Junction 9 Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Maybe we could stamp peoples hands on the way out with a symbol of a blackened lung.
1976_Child Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 (edited) I hate smoking with a passion but if some deluded madman wants to stick a tube of dried leaves in his mouth, set fire to it and inhale the toxic smoke into his lungs thus seriously damaging his health, tarring up his lungs, dramatically increasing his chances of getting cancer and heart problems then that is his choice - just so long as I don't have to partake in his slow-motion suicide. I doubt there could be found anyone who likes the Labour party less than me in all Christendom but I do take my hat off to the government for banning smoking in public places. Really nice now to be able to go out to the boozer and come back not stinking of cancer. All that said, when a fella pays £24 to support his footie club he should at the very least be given a warning first before he is chucked out the ground for having a fag. There is no doubt that some - not all, but some - of the Orange Jackets at SMS are little neo-nazis. Give some people a uniform and an air of authority and suddenly they start frog-marching people off to Auschwitz. Edited 31 December, 2008 by 1976_Child
.comsaint Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Maybe we could stamp peoples hands on the way out with a symbol of a blackened lung. Or maybe we can plaster horrible photos all over the packets...oh - hang on... Perhaps we could take them off display in the shops and hide them - because that will stop the teenagers smoking!!! lolololol - er...yeah, okay.
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 (edited) yep but then they'd have to have a part of the stadium which isn't a "public building or space" wouldn't they. Saints have no choice, do what the lab assistants at my place do-go out****ingside. In their case they have to jog down to the the street gate cos it's all a public "space" including the grounds. They get sacked if they get caught inside. they wont let you outside!!!!!!!!! Helloooooo......!!! oh, hang on, window cleaner, say no more. (only joking) Edited 31 December, 2008 by Matty's Caddy
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 they wont let you outside!!!!!!!!! Hello! yes..you can imagine home fans mulling around outside...in terms of fairness you will have to let the away fans have the same courtesy... that is all i need to say on that one..
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 they wont let you outside!!!!!!!!! Hello! I didn't know that, never tried to go out and come back in. Just assumed it was the same as everywhere else.
solentstars Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 more whinging for sad smelly smokers who cannot wait one and half hours for their fags during a game.
solentstars Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 As a reformed smoker, I kicked the habit Oct 2008 I do not miss the stench on the concourse at half time. The smoking ban did help me give them up long may it continue.good on you ,it had the same effect at work the guys at work who gave up and realised the bad bo smokers reek of when they had given up for awhile and could not believe they were like that.
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 more whinging for sad smelly smokers who cannot wait one and half hours for their fags during a game. except its not 90 mins, is it. i would like to get in the ground about 20 past, half past 2, have a beer, have a bet, have a chat etc etc the game finishes at 10 to 5 that will be 2 1/2 hours then if i was lowe, i would want the punters inside the ground as soon as possible, drinking sfc beer, scoffing sfc pies. there has been no effort whatsoever by the club to make it easier to spend money inside the ground, ie prepay schemes for your beer, anything to make the queues move quicker everyone says lowe is a business man, a very poor one in my mind
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 except its not 90 mins, is it. i would like to get in the ground about 20 past, half past 2, have a beer, have a bet, have a chat etc etc the game finishes at 10 to 5 that will be 2 1/2 hours then if i was lowe, i would want the punters inside the ground as soon as possible, drinking sfc beer, scoffing sfc pies. there has been no effort whatsoever by the club to make it easier to spend money inside the ground, ie prepay schemes for your beer, anything to make the queues move quicker everyone says lowe is a business man, a very poor one in my mind How do you get on on a transatlantic flight though, or on the train ? All no smoking as far as I know.
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 except its not 90 mins, is it. i would like to get in the ground about 20 past, half past 2, have a beer, have a bet, have a chat etc etc the game finishes at 10 to 5 that will be 2 1/2 hours then if i was lowe, i would want the punters inside the ground as soon as possible, drinking sfc beer, scoffing sfc pies. there has been no effort whatsoever by the club to make it easier to spend money inside the ground, ie prepay schemes for your beer, anything to make the queues move quicker everyone says lowe is a business man, a very poor one in my mind has the post below escaped your mind and thoughts...? yes..you can imagine home fans mulling around outside...in terms of fairness you will have to let the away fans have the same courtesy... that is all i need to say on that one..
Norm Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Do what I did and take up masturbation instead. That's not illegal as long as you confine yourself to one of the traps in the toilet and it has the added bonus of being quicker than a fag (so to speak) You must be joking! It's so bloody cold in the loo's, I have a job to find my **** to have a pee, never mind anything else. Matty, get over it. Get a patch or a life:rolleyes:
Legod Third Coming Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 What gets me, more than the smoking, is the hunting ban. WTF am I going to do tomorrow now eh??
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 has the post below escaped your mind and thoughts...? the same as before or after the game, its no different perhaps they could utilise the 40 odd stewards they always have in the away section look, its not rocket science, you obviously wouldnt have them next door to each other
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 the same as before or after the game, its no different perhaps they could utilise the 40 odd stewards they always have in the away section look, its not rocket science, you obviously wouldnt have them next door to each other ok....would you be willing to pay for the stewards then...lets say, you can only go outside if you have a allocated smoking ticket, which costs £5-10 more..just to fund the extra stewards.. fair deal..?
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 ha ha! no, ****in utilise the ones that patrol the mens bogs and the concourse looking for their own fix of power and control over the masses
rpb Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 ok....would you be willing to pay for the stewards then...lets say, you can only go outside if you have a allocated smoking ticket, which costs £5-10 more..just to fund the extra stewards.. fair deal..? That wouldn't work - non-payers would also demand to go out and it could cause trouble. The point that was being made was that there wasn't any real need for extra stewards, there are plenty around anyway - you can normally see them chatting to each other in the concourse.
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 ha ha! no, ****in utilise the ones that patrol the mens bogs and the concourse looking for their own fix of power and control over the masses lol do you think we have stewards coming out of our arses here.. we have to bring extra in for the big crowd against man u and the game against forest.. the stewards in the concourses (the very few) are there as the law says they have to be there for safety reasons.. so...will you be willing to pay the cost in YOUR ticket so you can have stewards AT ALL PARTS OF THE GROUND to look after those who want to smoke..???
Toomer Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 What gets me, more than the smoking, is the hunting ban. WTF am I going to do tomorrow now eh?? I am still going out with the hunt.
Mole Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 I am still going out with the hunt. I was speaking to the master of the Cottesmore hunt and asked him how they hunted with the golden eagle. He winked at me and said "we don't".
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 the huntng ban is such a farce..it has so many loop holes for the "hunters" to explpoit it is untrue... was brought in to keep th great unwashed happy..:yawinkle:
Window Cleaner Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 I was speaking to the master of the Cottesmore hunt and asked him how they hunted with the golden eagle. He winked at me and said "we don't". But then he would say that wouldn't he (Mandy Rice Davies circa 1963) Nothing changes does it.
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 what a load of crap next game, just have a look around at the stewards at half time far from being spread around, they are chatting in numbers their main job is looking for smokers well they wont need to now
Mole Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 But then he would say that wouldn't he (Mandy Rice Davies circa 1963) Nothing changes does it. Yes they still hunt, but they have to keep an eye out for the antis.
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 what a load of crap next game, just have a look around at the stewards at half time far from being spread around, they are chatting in numbers their main job is looking for smokers well they wont need to now lol you have no idea..I actually know a long serving steward that SMS and they are stretched on any given match day as it is..they have to have a certain number due to safety reasons... they simply do not have the numbers to loo after people having a ciggy..when the very longest they will have to go without is 2 hours... their main job is not looking for smokers..their main job is for safety in that part of the ground...and being a human, they are able to do a few things at once...they even find the capacity to walk and breath at the same time.. now, opening up the outside (roped off or not) creates a whole health and safety problem but please...dont let the law of the land get in the way of putting the boot into the club... ask yourself, how many other clubs open the stands at halftime to allow the fans out for a ciggy..? even the super rich ones than can afford a million stewards..?
Norm Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 what a load of crap next game, just have a look around at the stewards at half time far from being spread around, they are chatting in numbers their main job is looking for smokers well they wont need to now Matty, thats a shame. You are going to miss some superb football in the second half of the season:)
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 lol they simply do not have the numbers to loo after people having a ciggy.. explain the stewards in the bog then?
the saint in winchester Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Mind you don't bump into me having a J.Arthur in trap 2 No wonder I have to wait 15 mins every time I want to use the stall for a number 2. You're all having a crafty fag (or other) in there.
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 explain the stewards in the bog then? read post 141 as soon as you open up the gates so people can go outside..you enter a whole world of H+S issues.... like I said..will you be willing to pay for the extra costs....?
rpb Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 lol but please...dont let the law of the land get in the way of putting the boot into the club... ask yourself, how many other clubs open the stands at halftime to allow the fans out for a ciggy..? It seems that Coventry and Derby can do it... Why do you keep associating wanting a half time smoke with 'putting the boot into the club'?
Thedelldays Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 It seems that Coventry and Derby can do it... Why do you keep associating wanting a half time smoke with 'putting the boot into the club'? as in the early posts..it is directly linked to lowe and his evilness...
saint boggy Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 ha ha! no, ****in utilise the ones that patrol the mens bogs and the concourse looking for their own fix of power and control over the masses isn't it strange that its mostly the ones who want to break the rules that have a problem with the stewards!..
Weston Super Saint Posted 31 December, 2008 Posted 31 December, 2008 Oh dear - someone else a bit slow today. Let me spell it out for those a wee bit 'dim'. The reason landlords are complaing like mad that the pub trade is dying is that supermarkets sell very cheap booze & they cannot compete. They barely ever mention the smoking ban - only the price comparison of a pub & supermarket. I used to drink regularly in pubs - but due to the ban - I no longer visit any pubs - only in the summer when I can sit outside. Because of the ban - I now buy cheap crates of ale from the supermarkets & stay at home where I can happily smoke away all I want. It has nothing to do whatsoever with the cost of a pint in a pub that stopped me going - money isn't an issue thankfully. The only thing that stopped me going was the smoking ban. And the same goes for many thousands upon thousands of other people up & down the country too. Instead of give us the CHOICE of "smoking" or "no smoking" pubs - they elected to ban it in all pubs - and now many are paying the price. The whole non-smoking ban was ill-concieved and executed. That's this government all over. We don't like it = we ban it. Then you sir, are the exception that proves the rule. In case it slipped your attention the rest of the country is in a recession and has much less disposable income.
Matty's Caddy Posted 31 December, 2008 Author Posted 31 December, 2008 a whole world of H+S issues.... QUOTE] hahahahahaha health and safety police alert!!!! you really are a different breed you probably only have a job due to all the red tape that this nanny state produces people like you are all that is wrong with this country, the fluffy do-gooders. it really is so sad
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