trousers Posted 25 April, 2015 Posted 25 April, 2015 The question I asked was what percentage of your weekly Training Programme is with The First Team. He Said 100% Cheers. Maybe he started yesterday then. Or perhaps they purposely kept him out of camera shot for some reason.
Andy Durman Posted 25 April, 2015 Posted 25 April, 2015 Goatboy if he's expecting to play this season, then he's in full training with the first team.
trousers Posted 25 April, 2015 Posted 25 April, 2015 I think they kept him out of camera shot Seems an odd thing to do given Koeman announced at the pre-Stoke press conference that he would be back in full training the following week. Not sure what they've got to hide.
Goatboy Posted 25 April, 2015 Posted 25 April, 2015 Goatboy if he's expecting to play this season, then he's in full training with the first team. OK:)This makes me happy.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Looks like he's eyeing up a new boot deal as well!
Saint-Armstrong Posted 29 April, 2015 Author Posted 29 April, 2015 VIDEO: Rodriguez returns to full training -
Patrick Bateman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 VIDEO: Rodriguez returns to full training - Great to see!
Edmonton Saint Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Fantastic news. Delighted for Jay, and nice to see the players welcoming him back #wemarchon
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 A nice welcome back! Not unless he signs a new contract
angelman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 http://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/sport/football/573731/Jay-Rodriguez-return-fitness-Southampton Yaaaaawwwwwn.
norwaysaint Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 I think JRod and Mane are very similar players, it'll be interesting to see if they can play together.
Saint Garrett Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 I think JRod and Mane are very similar players, it'll be interesting to see if they can play together. Be great to have JRod back, Would choose him over Mane everyday of the week.
Andy Durman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Sorry don't agree. JRod plays left side. mane can't. They will compliment each other and if Jay can return to his best they will scare the living daylights out of defenses next season
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Sorry don't agree. JRod plays left side. mane can't. They will compliment each other and if Jay can return to his best they will scare the living daylights out of defenses next season Mane can, and has. I really don't care if they say nice things to each other either. Rodriguez can play either side as well.
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 I thought he returned a month ago? He's been doing bits with the main squad, but he's now back fully.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Be great to have JRod back, Would choose him over Mane everyday of the week. Mane's first season for us is on a par with JRod's IMO . JRod had been playing in English football all his career , for a first season in England Mane has had a pretty good season .
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Forster's cover New RB Fonte New CB Bertrand Wanyama Clasie Mane Ward-Prowse Rodriguez Pelle
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Forster's cover New RB Fonte New CB Bertrand Wanyama Clasie Mane Ward-Prowse Rodriguez Pelle That doesn't look much like an improvement, we still need to ADD players not just replace the ones we lose. There are no guarantees on Rodriguez's ability post-injury or Ward-Prowse's improvement either.
Andy Durman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Mane can, and has. I really don't care if they say nice things to each other either. Rodriguez can play either side as well. Have you watched Mane play on the left? Mane plays better centrally behind Pelle
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 That doesn't look much like an improvement. I didn't list the names for three of the positions and I'm only guessing Clasie would replace Schneiderlin.
Batman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 I didn't list the names of three of the positions. probably wont get players BETTER than those who depart in all vacant positions
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 probably wont get players BETTER than those who depart in all vacant positions Did you say the same last summer?
Batman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Did you say the same last summer? yes and we havnt really
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 (edited) yes and we havnt really - Bertrand has been more effective than Shaw - Forster is an improvement on Boruc - Alderweireld is an improvement on Lovren - Gardos is an improvement on Hooiveld as 4th choice centre back - Clyne was ahead of Chambers in pecking order last season and still would be if Chambers was still here - Long, Tadic, Elia, Djurcic and Mane all additions to attacking depth compared to just having Lallana - Ramirez and Osvaldo still Saints players (although will probably leave) - Pelle vs Lambert? Last summer was an exceptionally good transfer window, the first XI improved in quality and so did the squad depth. Hence why we are higher in the league and 1 point off 5th with 4 games left. Edited 29 April, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Batman Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 - Bertrand has been more effective than Shaw - Forster is an improvement on Boruc - Alderweireld is an improvement on Lovren - Gardos is an improvement on Hooiveld as 4th choice centre back - Clyne was ahead of Chambers in pecking order last season and still would be if Chambers was still here - Long, Tadic, Elia, Djurcic and Mane all additions to attacking depth compared to just having Lallana - Ramirez and Osvaldo still Saints players (although will probably leave) - Pelle vs Lambert? Last summer was an exceptionally good transfer window, the first XI improved in quality and so did the squad depth. Hence why we are higher in the league and 1 point off 5th with 4 games left. well done
S-Clarke Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Although I agree with what you said MLG, I can't quite agree with the Clyne remark. Chambers and Clyne were pretty much on level terms in the pecking order, and MP did seem to prefer Chambers.
Lighthouse Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Although I agree with what you said MLG, I can't quite agree with the Clyne remark. Chambers and Clyne were pretty much on level terms in the pecking order, and MP did seem to prefer Chambers. In Chambers last 4 games for the club, he was an unused sub for 3 of them, then came off the bench for 10 minutes against Man Utd. I wouldn't say MoPo prefered CaCh to NaCl at all.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Although I agree with what you said MLG, I can't quite agree with the Clyne remark. Chambers and Clyne were pretty much on level terms in the pecking order, and MP did seem to prefer Chambers. When they were both fully fit Clyne started ahead of Chambers last season. Chambers generally was getting games when Clyne was injured or returning to fitness.
itchen_dan Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Forster's Cover Clyne - Fonte - Alderweireld - Bertrand Wanyama - Clasie Tadic - Mane - Rodriguez Pelle
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Have you watched Mane play on the left? Mane plays better centrally behind Pelle Yes, and I agree. That doesn't mean he can't play there.
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 When they were both fully fit Clyne started ahead of Chambers last season. Chambers generally was getting games when Clyne was injured or returning to fitness. That's not true. Clyne was dropped for Chambers a couple of times depending on tactics.
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 - Bertrand has been more effective than Shaw - Forster is an improvement on Boruc - Alderweireld is an improvement on Lovren - Gardos is an improvement on Hooiveld as 4th choice centre back - Clyne was ahead of Chambers in pecking order last season and still would be if Chambers was still here - Long, Tadic, Elia, Djurcic and Mane all additions to attacking depth compared to just having Lallana - Ramirez and Osvaldo still Saints players (although will probably leave) - Pelle vs Lambert? Last summer was an exceptionally good transfer window, the first XI improved in quality and so did the squad depth. Hence why we are higher in the league and 1 point off 5th with 4 games left. I disagree on Gardos/Hooiveld though neither are good enough for what we need. Clyne/Chambers isn't even about who is the best, it's about having one less player who can step up to play that position - precisely the weaknesses we should be addressing. Your most relevant point is that last summer was EXCEPTIONALLY good, we can't assume we can ship numbers out again and just expect better replacements. If we keep most of our players we've got half a chance to build.
NickG Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Clyne was clearly first choice by distance and rightly so
VectisSaint Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 - Long, Tadic, Elia, Djurcic and Mane all additions to attacking depth compared to just having Lallana Last summer was an exceptionally good transfer window, the first XI improved in quality and so did the squad depth. Hence why we are higher in the league and 1 point off 5th with 4 games left. Elia and Djuricic were not brought in during the summer, they were brought in in Janauray when it became clear to the club how shallow our squad depth really was given the longer than expected absence of J-Rod and the similarly long absence of Gallagher. Long, Tadic and Mane replaced Lallana, Guly, J-Rod and Gallagher. I have seen nothing as yet to suggest that Djuricic or even Elia have contributed anything significantly more than Guly. Wile I agree that the 1st XI improved over last year it is a nonsense to say that the squad depth improved to any significant degree.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 (edited) I disagree on Gardos/Hooiveld though neither are good enough for what we need. Gardos is significantly above Hooiveld in ability. I have seen nothing as yet to suggest that Djuricic or even Elia have contributed anything significantly more than Guly. They are both significantly above Guly in technical ability. Wile I agree that the 1st XI improved over last year it is a nonsense to say that the squad depth improved to any significant degree. We'll have to agree to disagree on that. We have a better bench (and players not even making the bench) this season than last. Edited 29 April, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Saint_clark Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Buzzing for Jay. Hopefully he stays with us! 1. I thought you hated it on here, and 2. Whose tits are those
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Clyne was clearly first choice by distance and rightly so Both debatable. Chambers started the season only due to Clyne's injury but having done so well there, there were occasions when Clyne was on the bench with Chambers in the team (and of course Clyne and Chambers both started a couple of times with Shaw out).
The9 Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Gardos is significantly above Hooiveld in ability. I don't think either of them should be near a top half Prem side, and that's really all that matters.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 (edited) I don't think either of them should be near a top half Prem side, and that's really all that matters. We are using Gardos as a 4th choice centre back to play the occasional league game and some cup games, he is not a starter or even the first option if the first choice players are injured. Hooiveld is a Championship quality player and a complete liability in the Premier League, at the moment Gardos is a bottom half Premier League quality player. We made an upgrade in squad quality by signing him and loaning Hooiveld out to a relegated Championship team. Edited 29 April, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Saint_clark Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 I've seen enough from Gardos to think he can step it up and be very good for us. Yoshida looked quite shaky at times in his first season, and he got a LOT more game time than Gardos has. People need to get used to the new SFC mentality...we give players a few years to come good. Youth players will be staying with us now till 20-22 rather than being binned at 17/18. It's a much better system and a brighter future.
Lighthouse Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Jos wasn't a liability, although I'd agree not a Premier League player. He did a reasonable enough job but for me the only liabilities we've had since coming up were Fox, Gazza and Mayuka. Jos was a bit unlucky in that he played between Gazza and Fox, without Wanyama and Morgan, or even just Cork to protect him. Just look at the difference that made to Lovren when he left and had old man Gerrard ambling around in front of him.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 April, 2015 Posted 29 April, 2015 Jos wasn't a liability, although I'd agree not a Premier League player. I said he was a liability in the Premier League (he was clearly useful in the promotion season), you've just admitted he wasn't a Premier League player.
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