Hernandez being linked again....

[Saint Lindford]

Man Utd and SFC might well think it wonderful, but would he want to come here? Man Utd > Real > Saints? I know that we aren't the most unattractive club in the world to play for, but a bit of a step down for him. I'm not sure that he was too keen to come here when we tried to get him at the beginning of the season, but then he maybe knew that Real was on the cards. I am sure that there would be some big German/Spanish/Italian clubs in for him.

 

And where else is he supposedly linked with, oh yes those wonderful keep it on the floor football teams Stoke and Wet Spam....... ummmmm

[angelman]

Wolfsburg

[Plastic]

Still hanging around. Always liked him.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-transfers-javier-hernandez-5519990

[El Shano]

He is a better Shane Long. Quality finisher but little to no hold up play and a poorish allround game.

 

Wouldn't work up on his own or out wide so wouldnt really fit our system.

 

Austin would fit better.

[Smirking_Saint]

He is a better Shane Long. Quality finisher but little to no hold up play and a poorish allround game.

 

Wouldn't work up on his own or out wide so wouldnt really fit our system.

 

Austin would fit better.

 

This

[SO16_Saint]

http://www.todomercadoweb.es/primer-plano/manchester-united-chicharito-hernandez-moneda-de-cambio-para-llegar-a-clyne-121927

 

Leaders Manchester United insist to gain the services of right-back Nathaniel Clyne , now in the ranks of Southampton. Faced with resistance from the southern club , which has no urgency to sell players Verified by good economic performance in the last year , the Red Devils have thought to include a handover , apart from a significant amount in cash, by Javier "Chicharito " Hernandez . Who would have known to his closest people who want to continue their career in English football rather than face adventures in other countries like Italy, to the interest shown by the Lazio .

[Batman]

This

 

I think Austin would be a cracking signing. very good player

[Lallana's Left Peg]

He is a better Shane Long. Quality finisher but little to no hold up play and a poorish allround game.

 

Wouldn't work up on his own or out wide so wouldnt really fit our system.

 

Austin would fit better.

 

I think he absolutely would against at least half the teams we face in this division. Works hard, great movement, and can finish. We would be lucky to have him.

[Smirking_Saint]

I think he absolutely would against at least half the teams we face in this division. Works hard' date=' great movement, and can finish. We would be lucky to have him.[/quote']

 

But we dont play with a striker that sits on the last man, in fact, we havn't for god knows how long.

 

In fact... Name me a team that does any more, id go out on a limb and say we definately wont sign him. Modern football is played with strikers that can provide more, and Hernandez cant.

[Sour Mash]

Not sure I'd want him on the basis he doesn't seem overly keen to come here and would see us as a step down/backwards, such signings never really work for us.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

But we dont play with a striker that sits on the last man, in fact, we havn't for god knows how long.

 

In fact... Name me a team that does any more, id go out on a limb and say we definately wont sign him. Modern football is played with strikers that can provide more, and Hernandez cant.

 

We don't play that way because we've never had one. Now we're one of the better teams in the division we need one. Someone who can occupy two central defenders with his movement and will finish for us - teams sit back so deep these days that we need someone to fill that role for us. When a team sits back against us I don't want to see our striker dropping deep for the ball.

 

In terms of last man strikers: Berahino, Aguero, Cisse, Bony. To a lesser extend Kane, Jelavic, and Lukaku. All strikers who tend to play within the width of the 18 yard box and who use their movement in the box to create space and they finish. Some better than others, but as a club we need a player who fits that role if we are to maintain this sort of league position.

[SuperSAINT]

I think Austin would be a cracking signing. very good player

 

Tend to agree. Would you sign Austin over Ings if you had the choice?

[Batman]

Tend to agree. Would you sign Austin over Ings if you had the choice?

 

Yes. Austin is a couple of years older and more experienced. I think Austin is more of an all-rounder compared to Ings (who I think is a good player also)

[sadoldgit]

Not sure I'd want him on the basis he doesn't seem overly keen to come here and would see us as a step down/backwards, such signings never really work for us.

 

Agreed. And the wages would be an issue I would imagine.

[Dig Dig]

I'd have Austin over Ings and Pelle for that matter

[Smirking_Saint]

We don't play that way because we've never had one. Now we're one of the better teams in the division we need one. Someone who can occupy two central defenders with his movement and will finish for us - teams sit back so deep these days that we need someone to fill that role for us. When a team sits back against us I don't want to see our striker dropping deep for the ball.

 

In terms of last man strikers: Berahino, Aguero, Cisse, Bony. To a lesser extend Kane, Jelavic, and Lukaku. All strikers who tend to play within the width of the 18 yard box and who use their movement in the box to create space and they finish. Some better than others, but as a club we need a player who fits that role if we are to maintain this sort of league position.

 

All of those players have a more expansive game to Hernandez and none of them are what I would class as a player that sits on the last man.

 

We dont need that sort of player, we need a player like pellè but with a but more composure in front of goal

[Smirking_Saint]

I'd have Austin over Ings and Pelle for that matter

 

Agreed, think Austin would do a better job all in all. I really like Ings but for me we already have Jay Rod and to the lesser extent Long to fulfill the role he would potentially play.

 

I think Austin would be a good fit and likley achievable.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

All of those players have a more expansive game to Hernandez and none of them are what I would class as a player that sits on the last man.

 

We dont need that sort of player, we need a player like pellè but with a but more composure in front of goal

 

No way to Berahino, Bony, Jelavic, and Cisse. All contribute little outside the desire to score goals.

[Smirking_Saint]

No way to Berahino' date=' Bony, Jelavic, and Cisse. All contribute little outside the desire to score goals.[/quote']

 

With the exception of Cisse and Jelevic they all contribute, drop deep and relaunch.

 

Bony can play a lone role and often did with Swansea. In fact, if you are to employ someone that just sits on the last man then you will generally play someone alongside him. We just wont play that way.

 

In fact its all redundant as to break down a team that sits deep you need to pull the defensive line around and get in behind, a player that looks for pockets won't help you much with that as a compact back line tends to have very little 'pockets'. Our failure to break down defences like that tends to be with our rigid and slow approach, we need to mix things up in those games. Hit mixed crosses, hit on the break and take shots from distance

[Lallana's Left Peg]

With the exception of Cisse and Jelevic they all contribute, drop deep and relaunch.

 

Bony can play a lone role and often did with Swansea. In fact, if you are to employ someone that just sits on the last man then you will generally play someone alongside him. We just wont play that way.

 

In fact its all redundant as to break down a team that sits deep you need to pull the defensive line around and get in behind, a player that looks for pockets won't help you much with that as a compact back line tends to have very little 'pockets'. Our failure to break down defences like that tends to be with our rigid and slow approach, we need to mix things up in those games. Hit mixed crosses, hit on the break and take shots from distance

 

Bony doesn't drop deep really - no more than Hernandez would / does. When we play at home against bottom half opposition we would benefit greatly from a player like Hernandez. Our failure to break down defences definitely includes the reasons you've stated but is also because we do not have good enough movement in the box and a proper finisher. If we had a player like Hernandez I think more chances would manifest themselves because of his movement and the way he plays.

[Smirking_Saint]

Bony doesn't drop deep really - no more than Hernandez would / does. When we play at home against bottom half opposition we would benefit greatly from a player like Hernandez. Our failure to break down defences definitely includes the reasons you've stated but is also because we do not have good enough movement in the box and a proper finisher. If we had a player like Hernandez I think more chances would manifest themselves because of his movement and the way he plays.

 

I think we need a striker with better finishing and movement, I do agree with you there, but I think its achievable with different personel. My point being, we will lose more due to changing the team shape thenwe will benefit including Hernandez.

 

I think we will stick with a striker more able to play deeper, to hold the ball up and to be a threat, but that player needs to be better infront of goal. I dont dislike Pellè per se, he does a job, but his composure doesnt look like improving any time soon, and thats a worry for me.

 

Personally I dont see Hernandez as the answer, but thats just me and my footballing philosophies, everyone portrays the way the game should be played differently, so who knows what Koeman has up his sleeve.

[bilbot79]

Austin could be top scorer if tadic pinging in the crosses

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

Our current system wouldn't benefit from having Hernandez. We've been crying out for Mane to play off or alongside Pelle but Koeman still hasnt budged from his 4-2-3-1 system so cant see Hernandez fitting in. He cant play the lone role upfront.

[Baird of the land]

Not a fan.

 

Too limited to play a 1 striker system.

 

Agree can't see him fitting our system.

Other issues regarding wages and after Osvaldo we need to be careful regarding players who's egos think they deserve to play for what they define as a big club.

 

Bit confused by all this talk regarding a new striker anyway. I'd be surprised if Pelle or Long left in the summer. If Jrod stays that 3 strikers competing for one space. Ings is certainly a talent & a bargain on a free(sure bigger clubs will snap him up though) but Austin seems to be likely to be massively overpriced and another one who seems not overly suited to our system.

[Matthew Le God]

Bit confused by all this talk regarding a new striker anyway. I'd be surprised if Pelle or Long left in the summer. If Jrod stays that 3 strikers competing for one space.

 

Long and Rodriguez have both been used out wide for Saints.

[Dig Dig]

Agreed, think Austin would do a better job all in all. I really like Ings but for me we already have Jay Rod and to the lesser extent Long to fulfill the role he would potentially play.

 

I think Austin would be a good fit and likley achievable.

 

Yep, that's the way I see it as well. Of the known and obtainable strikers out there, Austin surely meets all the requirements.

[Yuki]

Trippier and Hernandez in and Clyne out would make us a stronger team overall IMO, as good as Clyne is.

 

Might as well get Javi de Pedro in as well.

[Benny F]

Yes. Austin is a couple of years older and more experienced. I think Austin is more of an all-rounder compared to Ings (who I think is a good player also)

 

Austin is a great player. Top scoring striker in fantasy premier league at the moment second to Harry Kane. Sign him up. hes a goal machine.

[hypochondriac]

Might as well get Javi de Pedro in as well.

 

Odd that someone who claims to be a new fan from Asia would know about this. Hello Glasgow.

[Redslo]

Odd that someone who claims to be a new fan from Asia would know about this. Hello Glasgow.

 

Who is Glasgow and why does it matter? Real question, btw.

[angelman]

Didn't QPR pick up Austin on the cheap because of potentially dodgy knees?

[Badger]

Not sure I'd want him on the basis he doesn't seem overly keen to come here and would see us as a step down/backwards, such signings never really work for us.

 

Agree, he'd arrive with a sulk and it'd probably go downhill from there, until we loan him out.

 

Yep, that's the way I see it as well. Of the known and obtainable strikers out there, Austin surely meets all the requirements.

 

Austin or INgs would be the preference, but it seems Ings might want to stay warming benches up north (according to one or two on here).

 

Didn't QPR pick up Austin on the cheap because of potentially dodgy knees?

 

Thought it was £4m , not cheap deal between two Championship clubs at the time.

[Lallana's Left Peg]

Marca reporting that Real Madrid are considering purchasing Hernandez but won't to renegotiate the agreed free with Man Utd which is about £14m.

[dronskisaint]

Not sure I'd want him on the basis he doesn't seem overly keen to come here and would see us as a step down/backwards, such signings never really work for us.

 

Agree ...hated his hand wringing histrionics when he missed chances as well - doesn't feel a good fit to me.