S-Clarke Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 Although we are told about the "Club's Ambition" twenty times a week do we really have the money or attractiveness to top players to ever be a big club and break into the hegemony of the top four? Liverpool and Tottenham clearly have vastly superior resources to ours yet they can't do it so I'm thinking that as we are bound to lose at last three of our top players in the summer and must embark yet again on a rebuilding task with inferior players, will be ever move further forward than we are now or is 6th/7th our ultimate destiny? If we are in for season after season of false promise and ultimately unable to deliver on those promises and that in reality this is about as good as we can ever expect it to be, the wisdom of coughing up huge amounts of money on Season Tickets year-after-year must be challenged. It is a personal choice of course but right now my feeling is that despite a life long belief that all things are possible, so my ST renewal has been a given now I am less sure about it than at any time in the past. This will be a final day decision and probably equally as difficult as choosing who to vote for on May 7th Ridiculous post. What do you want us to do exactly? Top 10 is pretty much where we are.....Top 6 is the aim, but anything other than that is a little too much - especially a sustained attempt. You may be following the wrong club as your expectations are completely skewed. I'm not entirely sure how a top 6 finish can be seen as false promise. For us, that is an amazing achievement. If we finish top 6 for the next 10 years, then sign me up for a 10 year season ticket thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 Although we are told about the "Club's Ambition" twenty times a week do we really have the money or attractiveness to top players to ever be a big club and break into the hegemony of the top four? Liverpool and Tottenham clearly have vastly superior resources to ours yet they can't do it so I'm thinking that as we are bound to lose at last three of our top players in the summer and must embark yet again on a rebuilding task with inferior players, will be ever move further forward than we are now or is 6th/7th our ultimate destiny? If we are in for season after season of false promise and ultimately unable to deliver on those promises and that in reality this is about as good as we can ever expect it to be, the wisdom of coughing up huge amounts of money on Season Tickets year-after-year must be challenged. It is a personal choice of course but right now my feeling is that despite a life long belief that all things are possible, so my ST renewal has been a given now I am less sure about it than at any time in the past. This will be a final day decision and probably equally as difficult as choosing who to vote for on May 7th For someone claiming to that they are being "told about the clubs ambition twenty times a week" you have a spectacular lack of understanding of what our ambition actually is. Clue: it is NOT about having "the money or attractiveness to break the hegemony of the top four". You're only seeing "false promise" because you are ignoring to what the club have actually said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 Although we are told about the "Club's Ambition" twenty times a week do we really have the money or attractiveness to top players to ever be a big club and break into the hegemony of the top four? Liverpool and Tottenham clearly have vastly superior resources to ours yet they can't do it so I'm thinking that as we are bound to lose at last three of our top players in the summer and must embark yet again on a rebuilding task with inferior players, will be ever move further forward than we are now or is 6th/7th our ultimate destiny? If we are in for season after season of false promise and ultimately unable to deliver on those promises and that in reality this is about as good as we can ever expect it to be, the wisdom of coughing up huge amounts of money on Season Tickets year-after-year must be challenged. It is a personal choice of course but right now my feeling is that despite a life long belief that all things are possible, so my ST renewal has been a given now I am less sure about it than at any time in the past. This will be a final day decision and probably equally as difficult as choosing who to vote for on May 7th Jeez. Don't know where to start with this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 It wasn't direct debit defaulters - it was because the installment scheme that year was the club taking a number of payments from your card rather than account So if the bank card expired during the season the payment would fail, a flawed system. It was a DD system based on card payments due to the short timescale post-admin and there were certainly some auto-fails (my first payment for one) but there were also shed loads of people who took that as an opportunity to get the paper ST in hand and then stop paying it, knowing there was no way the club could link the physical ticket to the payment. Nowadays they'd just cancel your ST card access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 They'll be getting my money on 23rd May. My wife is having a weird "give them the money as soon as possible" panic at the moment, makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 Jeez. Don't know where to start with this post. Ignore it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 8 April, 2015 Share Posted 8 April, 2015 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge, whinge. Good job Arsenal are back in vogue again. You can feck off and watch them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 April, 2015 Share Posted 9 April, 2015 Not many posters receive such universal acclaim so thanks for the solidarity people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoozer Posted 12 April, 2015 Share Posted 12 April, 2015 Have renewed my ticket already. Just hoping the most miserable fan in football who sits behind me doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 April, 2015 Share Posted 12 April, 2015 Have renewed my ticket already. Just hoping the most miserable fan in football who sits behind me doesn't. Oops ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 12 April, 2015 Share Posted 12 April, 2015 They'll be getting my money on 23rd May. And mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 12 April, 2015 Share Posted 12 April, 2015 Have renewed my ticket already. Just hoping the most miserable fan in football who sits behind me doesn't. The turd Wayman said it was unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbrooktonian Posted 14 April, 2015 Share Posted 14 April, 2015 Bought mine ,been a fantastic season COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 14 April, 2015 Share Posted 14 April, 2015 Although we are told about the "Club's Ambition" twenty times a week do we really have the money or attractiveness to top players to ever be a big club and break into the hegemony of the top four? Liverpool and Tottenham clearly have vastly superior resources to ours yet they can't do it so I'm thinking that as we are bound to lose at last three of our top players in the summer and must embark yet again on a rebuilding task with inferior players, will be ever move further forward than we are now or is 6th/7th our ultimate destiny? If we are in for season after season of false promise and ultimately unable to deliver on those promises and that in reality this is about as good as we can ever expect it to be, the wisdom of coughing up huge amounts of money on Season Tickets year-after-year must be challenged. It is a personal choice of course but right now my feeling is that despite a life long belief that all things are possible, so my ST renewal has been a given now I am less sure about it than at any time in the past. This will be a final day decision and probably equally as difficult as choosing who to vote for on May 7th This is exactly why I never renewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32399291 Will be interesting to see if Saints do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32399291 Will be interesting to see if Saints do the same. West Ham are doing that because of their relocation to a stadium they won't be able to fill, not because of any other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 I'm sure Leyton Orient will be thrilled about this. Their ticket prices for 2014-15 start at £220 for an adult in the North stand, £325 in the South stand, £350 in the East/West stands and £630 in the Gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 West Ham are doing that because of their relocation to a stadium they won't be able to fill' date=' not because of any other reason.[/quote'] Yeah, the angle taken for that BBC story was ridiculous. It's a unique situation, who else is announcing ST prices for the season after next? Moving to the new stadium is explicitly stated in the article but not even a comment about how the rise in capacity might just possibly be a driver as opposed to them having more money from the tv deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 I'm sure Leyton Orient will be thrilled about this. Their ticket prices for 2014-15 start at £220 for an adult in the North stand, £325 in the South stand, £350 in the East/West stands and £630 in the Gallery. It's one of the reasons they pursued the legal/appeal avenue so vigorously. The Olympic Stadium is nearer Brisbane Road as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 Yes I know, but I'm sure that they didn't expect WHU to have (pretty much) the same ticket prices as them, when they dropped the action: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2676694/Leyton-Orient-drop-legal-case-against-West-Ham-Olympic-Stadium-move.html The article says that there was an undisclosed settlement - I wonder if that is an annual payment. There's certainly enough money around to buy them off, both from the PL, WHU, IOC, Mayor of London, the council etc etc (the latter lot not wanting to have a white elephant on their hands). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 I'm fairly sure they had a pretty good idea West Ham would be dropping prices to try and get more people in. It's the usual argument about overall revenue and the number of people who are buying a shirt / food and drink, programmes etc. Matchday revenue is a drop in the ocean compared to tv money, and that's even more the case from 2016, but that doesn't mean you don't want to maximise matchday revenue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 22 April, 2015 Share Posted 22 April, 2015 I'm sure Leyton Orient will be thrilled about this. Their ticket prices for 2014-15 start at £220 for an adult in the North stand, £325 in the South stand, £350 in the East/West stands and £630 in the Gallery. Which was the main basis for their complaint in the first place. West Ham were always going to do this (for the first few years, at least) to ensure they filled the ground - they already do loads of cheap tickets (kids for a quid, etc) on matchdays at Upton Park, so with an extra 15,000 seats to fill, they had to reduce the prices across the board. I certainly wouldn't complain about any club bringing in cheaper prices, that is certainly a good thing, as long as it's sustainable. West Ham's view will be that they can easily sustain those cheaper prices (although worth noting they've not actually said exactly how many season tickets at £289 will be available, and what the range of prices will be) when the new TV deal is factored in, as well as the increased corporate and sponsorship revenue they'll be able to get from being at the Olympic Stadium. The key will be whether those prices remain low or whether they'll wait a while until they've got a captive audience and then put the squeeze on the paying punters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 24 April, 2015 Share Posted 24 April, 2015 Does anyone know when the last payment from V12 for the DD comes out for 14/15 tickets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoshi Posted 2 July, 2015 Share Posted 2 July, 2015 Does anyone know when the season tickets are due to be sent out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 9 July, 2015 Share Posted 9 July, 2015 Does anyone know when the season tickets are due to be sent out? I've just got my email to say they're in the post and should receive it in a couple of days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 9 July, 2015 Share Posted 9 July, 2015 I've just got my email to say they're in the post and should receive it in a couple of days! I received the same email with a nice 30 minute video attached as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 9 July, 2015 Share Posted 9 July, 2015 I received the same email with a nice 30 minute video attached as well. Yeah good touch. Have only watched a quarter of the video but noticed how so many of our goals either involved quality Schneiderlin passes or quality Schneiderlin interceptions to set us up on the counter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 My ST arrived in the post today, another pin badge 10% off megastore voucher, Garmin voucher, not long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Box Posted 11 July, 2015 Share Posted 11 July, 2015 Should get mine on Monday then!My ST arrived in the post today, another pin badge 10% off megastore voucher, Garmin voucher, not long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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