Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3011264/Fraser-Forster-ruled-rest-season-breaking-knee-cap-Southampton-s-win-Burnley.html Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Ouch, f**k sh*t. New Goalie please ... sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 All the best Fraser, despite what many say you have been pivotal and it is beyond me how many on here have managed to say that your broken knee cap is the fault of your own indecision.... Still they are the first to say we have no quality back up keepers and either way I think you'd be the first goalie in history who decided to take an extra touch and spontaneously brake his knee cap as a result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Cue Saintsweb Medical Experts: Seems a v.long time for this kind of Injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 We shall soon discover whether Koeman thinks Gazza or Cropper are good enough. They should be as you wouldn't expect players to be kept here if they don't have first team potential. Artur returns at the end of the season so maybe there is some scope there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 We shall soon discover whether Koeman thinks Gazza or Cropper are good enough. They should be as you wouldn't expect players to be kept here if they don't have first team potential. Artur returns at the end of the season so maybe there is some scope there. He's out of contract and I think that bridge has been burnt a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Did Vokes collide with him? Couldn't see it clearly from where I was sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_emu Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 sounds painful, but I'd take that over a knee reco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Artur returns at the end of the season so maybe there is some scope there. His contract expires in the summer, if Forster is due to only miss the very start of 2015/16 then I doubt Boruc will sign a new deal to cover for Forster briefly and then play second fiddle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Due to not wanting to believe this I'm not going to, this will be backed up by the fact of how I don't take anything seriously the Daily fail writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Cue Saintsweb Medical Experts: Seems a v.long time for this kind of Injury Not but he should have come off his line and claimed the first ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Catastrophic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Did Vokes collide with him? Couldn't see it clearly from where I was sat. I watched the replay several times.... ...Vokes ran in, as if to challenge ....but there was no actual contact and Forster tried to avoid him and went down under his own weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Defo will need a new no 2 keeper in the summer as they will quite possibly play as a no 1 for a decent portion of the early season. Out of interest, when I had a minor knee injury last year the physio said broken kneecap is the worst knee injury pain wise, after injury and during rehab. Don't envy him one bit. Massive blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Needed a replacement for kelvin anyway imo , worth offering Valdes a 6 month loan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 sounds painful, but I'd take that over a knee reco Yes I would guess that this is significantly 'better' than cruciate reconstruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 We shall soon discover whether Koeman thinks Gazza or Cropper are good enough. They should be as you wouldn't expect players to be kept here if they don't have first team potential. Artur returns at the end of the season so maybe there is some scope there. Gazzaniga (23) is no great shakes, even at U21 level, I'd still think I'd prefer Kelvin Davis at the moment. Cropper has been sharing U21 games with PG , and I think we should keep him in preference....except that Gazzaniga (reputedly cost us £2million ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 I watched the replay several times.... ...Vokes ran in, as if to challenge ....but there was no actual contact and Forster tried to avoid him and went down under his own weight. Interesting, thanks. Thought so. I've heard of people fracturing bones because the underlying muscle has contracted so violently. But usually it requires a direct blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Seems a v long time for this kind of injury... All the best to Fraser for a full recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) Cue Saintsweb Medical Experts: Seems a v.long time for this kind of Injury I actually broke my kneecap in May 1969. I landed directly on my kneecap while trying to steal home in the top of the first inning of the first game of the season while playing Little League Baseball. I had to wear a cast for 6 weeks and was not really allowed or able to run around like a normal kid for another six weeks after that. However, if I was rehabilitating like a modern professional athlete I would have been back in much less than six months. On the other hand, his knee cap break might very well be worse than mine in how it affected the surrounding tissue. I did suffer intermittent minor to moderate pain in the years since then although not much in the past 15 years. I will be back with more information if any of our players come down with minor lower back pain or Ossgood-Schlatter's disease. Edited 25 March, 2015 by Redslo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Actually good news, I thought he'd blown his knee out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Very unfortunate and such a freak accident, even more so for a keeper. It did look like his knee had gone completely in the pics from the game, completely indented. 6 months makes it a tough call for the club, what level of replacement in the summer do they bring in. IN terms of next season's back up, it might be a blessing in disguise as it could gurantee a good level back up to Forster once he's fit again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 worth offering Valdes a 6 month loan ? Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Jesus Wasn't he a right back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) Miles better than I thought it would be. He will be back what? September/October?? Maybe even sooner. May be a reason to get an adequate keeper in the club over the summer Edited 25 March, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) IN terms of next season's back up, it might be a blessing in disguise as it could gurantee a good level back up to Forster once he's fit again. This is a good point and it will also depend how Davis does - although if we are serious about pushing on then clearly we need a better backup keeper. Edited 25 March, 2015 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuki Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Actually good news, I thought he'd blown his knee out. Pardon me for saying, but with respectful nature I do not think you understand the mechanics of a knee particularly well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Pardon me for saying, but with respectful nature I do not think you understand the mechanics of a knee particularly well! Ok, my thought was he'd done his ACL or MCL, which would be a longer injury to come back from I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Pardon me for saying, but with respectful nature I do not think you understand the mechanics of a knee particularly well! Surprised you're not suggesting we put Yoshida in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 ... Cech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 This is a good point, and it will also depend how Davis does, although if we are serious about pushing on then clearly we need a better backup keeper. Clearly, Forster has been deemed our long-term no.1 gk. Assuming reports are correct, not really sure whether him coming back in September, a month into the new season, is substantially going to change the cost-benefit analysis of an incoming keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Bad news if true, gives Kelvin Davies a final swansong that I don't think many including him thought he would! Hope any mistakes he makes don't cost us dearly as he's been a decent servant even in the dark days when he fell out massively with our fans at Sheffield Wednesday when we were stuffed and he spent the whole game diving over the ball. Doesn't really change much for the summer we needed a new number two and we still do I'm sure the club were always looking for someone with quality and this should make it easier to get someone in as they will get an immediate opportunity and if they do well who is to say Forster would get back in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 6 months is *only* 6 weeks of this and 4 weeks of next season, not as bad as it could have been. Granted, they're a massive 6 weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjay Sanchez Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 I completely shattered my knee cap and it now feels like I have a house brick where my knee is, hopefully Fraser just has one fracture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 6 months is *only* 6 weeks of this and 4 weeks of next season, not as bad as it could have been. Granted, they're a massive 6 weeks! Does not sound too bad when you think about it. Hopefully he will miss what... First 5 games of next season. Not bad considering worst fears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Bad news, hope he recovers quick. It could have happened at a worse time though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Get well ASAP Fraser. New goalie needed in the summer. Someone mid-late 30s. I doubt Boruc would come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Get well ASAP Fraser. New goalie needed in the summer. Someone mid-late 30s. I doubt Boruc would come back. He's older than Davis but Schwarzer has been very good over the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Clearly, Forster has been deemed our long-term no.1 gk. Assuming reports are correct, not really sure whether him coming back in September, a month into the new season, is substantially going to change the cost-benefit analysis of an incoming keeper. Agreed. Unless we think Gazza or Cropper are PL quality keepers (unlikely IMO) then we needed to sign one in the summer anyway, really. How on earth has he broken his knee cap anyway without any trauma? Very odd. Looked more like a twist or ligament issue. Get well soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Clearly, Forster has been deemed our long-term no.1 gk. Assuming reports are correct, not really sure whether him coming back in September, a month into the new season, is substantially going to change the cost-benefit analysis of an incoming keeper. It should do if Davis is crap over the next few games. Especially with European games early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 He's older than Davis but Schwarzer has been very good over the last couple of seasons. These types, Given, Friedel, Schwarzer are good no2 keepers because they are old enough to be happy with playing a few games and prolonging their career but also good enough that in their peak they were top PL keepers. Thats where they differ from Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Maybe we could do a Barcelona and bring in a keeper solely for cup/Euro games. Their CL keeper hasn't yet made a start in La Liga yet is playing in a CL Semi Final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 With such an injury, is recovery relatively straight forward and easy to plan for (albeit long and painful), or is there plenty of scope for set backs, extensions of time etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Kind of relieved it is not cruciate/ACL stuff as that seems a real bastard. need a new keeper in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Cech? Almost think we should give Gazza a chance, if he is ever going to be good enough, then he needs a few games in the first team - if not good enough then get rid this summer. However - it's always a real worry if you start the season badly - sure there must be a few out of contract keepers this summer who would join on a short term basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 With such an injury, is recovery relatively straight forward and easy to plan for (albeit long and painful), or is there plenty of scope for set backs, extensions of time etc? Too many variables to know I think - whether it needs surgery or just immobilising, and whether there is damage to surrounding tissues and the extent of that, if any. When Saints comment on it they might give more of an indication, but as with Jay (and even Toby recently) you never quite know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Petre Chech please as the new number one keeper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Petre Chech please as the new number one keeper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk That is never ever going to happen. Stunned why a couple of you keep suggesting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 The loons talking about Cech. LOL. He will be going to a big CL team and we have a no1 anyway. What we need is a no 2 keeper better than the collection of no 3's that we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2015 Share Posted 25 March, 2015 Petre Chech please as the new number one keeper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I hope you aren't being serious, but I have a feeling you are. Cech would require huge wages. Plus as Forster may only miss the end of this season and the beginning of next we won't be signing a first choice keeper, because when Forster returns he'll be number one again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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