Saint-Armstrong Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 (edited) Supposedly. They say Vilhena flew to Southampton on March the 3rd. I was at Koeman's pre-QPR presser in February, and I am not at all surprised about this, after what was said (by Ronald) when the cameras were turned off. (I guess not many people are TOO surprised, but yeah) https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.feyenoordpings.nl%2Fnieuws%2F15892%2F-vilhena-reisde-af-naar-engeland-en-bereikt-persoonlijk-akkoord-.html&edit-text=&act=url Edited 24 March, 2015 by Saint-Armstrong
JakkoUK Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 If this is true, after watching a few games in which Vilhena has played; I still don't really see how he would fit in the current Saints squad apart from being a squad filler.
Hatch Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 at least I have now heard of the SPort in a storm website. Thats something at least
Saint_clark Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 Err...what did Koeman say then? That's not how it works, we're supposed to know that he knows something that we don't, but not what it is.
hypochondriac Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 That's not how it works, we're supposed to know that he knows something that we don't, but not what it is. He probably heard it on Twitter.
hypochondriac Posted 24 March, 2015 Posted 24 March, 2015 Underwhelmed if true. Doubting it is Any idea what he is like? I trust Koeman to get the right people in after last summer.
Bucks Saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Any idea what he is like? I trust Koeman to get the right people in after last summer. Calling Jakko (above) back to this thread - has seen him play. My recollection is based on previous lengthy thread below. RK seems to like him as he is left footed. Was seen as maybe a stop gap in January. And he is not able to make the starting 11 for Feyenoord http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?53253-Tonny-Vilhena&highlight=Vilhena#.VRH6fobfWrU
Pastor Patrón Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Any idea what he is like? I trust Koeman to get the right people in after last summer. Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far.
GarrettIvo Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. We'll be lucky to escape relegation with that lot!
hypochondriac Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. you muppet. That is all.
Pastor Patrón Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 We'll be lucky to escape relegation with that lot! Mane, Toby and Bert are the only 3 good enough for our first 11, I kinda like Tadic tbh but his forms been hideous for months. Pelle clearly isn't good enough for us, forster luckily rarely touches the ball and the others are just squad cover.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. Does Saints being likely to finish in their highest ever Premier League finish not make you think you might be wrong in some of those evaluations...?
Pastor Patrón Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Does Saints being likely to finish in their highest ever Premier League finish not make you think you might be wrong in some of those evaluations...? Not at all, which of them apart from the bottom three have been vital to our success? Only two of the others would even make our first 11 and would be by far the weakest players in it.
S-Clarke Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Not at all, which of them apart from the bottom three have been vital to our success? Only two of the others would even make our first 11 and would be by far the weakest players in it. Seeing as Pelle is our top goal scorer, Tadic is our highest assister, and Forster has 14 clean sheets to his name.......I'd say they've been pretty pivotal to where we are. Stop wumming.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 March, 2015 Author Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) I can't start quoting exactly what Koeman said, off-camera, for a couple of reasons. One, it's being kept under wraps by some of the local media. Two, I don't think it'd go down very well if I outright said what he actually did say to us. But, Vilhena will be a Saints player next season. He wants the deal. Koeman wants the deal. Price should be good, with just one year left. When he's our player, I'll say. Now whether people want to make snide remarks or not is up to them - I'm just passing on what I heard, first person, from Koeman at Staplewood. Take it or leave it. Edited 25 March, 2015 by Saint-Armstrong
hypochondriac Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 More than happy to say what he said, when he's actually our player and both parties are satisfied with the deal. What I can say for now is, he told us he'd be coming and both he and Vilhena knew they both wanted the deal to happen. man I wish Turkish was here.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 25 March, 2015 Author Posted 25 March, 2015 man I wish Turkish was here. He probably will be, soon enough. I would've thought it's fairly obvious why I can't disclose what Koeman said, off-the-record, about someone else's player. When he's our player, I'll explain. By all means keep having digs if you want.
Redslo Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 I can't start quoting exactly what Koeman said, off-camera, for a couple of reasons. One, it's being kept under wraps by some of the local media. Two, I don't think it'd go down very well if I outright said what he actually did say to us. But, Vilhena will be a Saints player next season. He wants the deal. Koeman wants the deal. Price should be good, with just one year left. When he's our player, I'll say. Now whether people want to make snide remarks or not is up to them - I'm just passing on what I heard, first person, from Koeman at Staplewood. Take it or leave it. I have a crazy idea. Let's all wait and see what happens and then use that to judge your itk credibility in the future.
niceandfriendly Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 He probably will be, soon enough. I would've thought it's fairly obvious why I can't disclose what Koeman said, off-the-record, about someone else's player. When he's our player, I'll explain. By all means keep having digs if you want. When you're a bit older you'll look back at all the attention you're trying to get on a football forum and feel a bit embarrassed by it.
whelk Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 So much snideness. It's the Information age And if he has some why not post it? Hardly going to pass unnoticed if wrong.
Mr Saints Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Not ITK but I've heard we will need squad players like this with the extra Europa league games next season.
Goatboy Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 promising youngster, no? Absolutely. As long as he doesn't get too obsessed with twitter and concentrates on his excellent match previews and summaries, I see a bright future for him.
SuperSAINT Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 He is our Morgan replacement I think Vilhena is the Cork replacement.
Appy Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Probably change the thread title, as it may not be true and could be deceiving.
eddie Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. This is the worst, most ill informed and knee-jerk post I've seen on saintsweb since I joined the only redeeming thing about it is the brilliant application of the word "goat"
Patrick Bateman Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. You utter spazz.
david in sweden Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 as memory serves....Saint Armstrong has come up with some accurate info. before. I wish some others who come up with more outrageous posts were a bit closet to the truth.... "forgotten" by me quote.. (maybe Mark Twain? )... " a rumour can travel halfway around the World....whilst Truth ...is still putting on its shoes..."
iansums Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. If Carlsberg did sh*t footballers......
Yuki Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 I follow Saint Armstrong on Twitter because he is very productive at providing news for those of us overseas. Less keen am I though on the rival Southend content. Would be good to split out the two I propose. As a non native and with the two names similar, it can be confusing. Yuki.
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Unlike a lot of helmets who earlier believed we had stumbled on some magic alchemy to reduce the risk of new signings/loanees, our record has been pretty hit and miss. The implicit conclusion that our success owes more to the performances of old timers -Morgan, Fonte, Clyne, Victor, Davis- is correct. The view that we'll just go out and seemlessly replace the likes of Morgan and Clyne doesn't tally with experience. Edited 25 March, 2015 by shurlock
Bearsy Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 All of them bros are good enough to play for Saints FC imo.
Sour Mash Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 The truth is somewhere in the middle. Unlike a lot of helmets who earlier believed we had stumbled on some magic alchemy to reduce the risk of new signings/loanees, our record has been pretty hit and miss The implicit conclusion that our success owes more to the performances of old timers -Morgan, Fonte, Clyne, Victor, Davis- is correct. The complacent view that we'll just go out and seemlessly replace the likes of Morgan and Clyne doesn't tally with experience. You can't have a season like ours, using so many new players and doing so well, without our recruitment overall being a success.
shurlock Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 (edited) You can't have a season like ours, using so many new players and doing so well, without our recruitment overall being a success. Never said its been a failure. But I don't think it's been a massive success either. Probably give it a 7/10 tops. There are still gaps in the side -precisely where we've been busiest in the market. Ultimately, I don't think we've done enough to be so calm about our ability to replace looming departures in the summer. Let alone repeat it every summer. Edited 25 March, 2015 by shurlock
Bucks Saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 I think Vilhena is the Cork replacement. Pretty sure that was the idea in January. Which tallies with him not being in the Feyenoord starting line up according to others, so he may be a squad player only, but will still have to be pretty useful to replace Cork (and be ahead of Reed)
supersonic Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 I can't start quoting exactly what Koeman said, off-camera, for a couple of reasons. One, it's being kept under wraps by some of the local media. Two, I don't think it'd go down very well if I outright said what he actually did say to us. But, Vilhena will be a Saints player next season. He wants the deal. Koeman wants the deal. Price should be good, with just one year left. When he's our player, I'll say. Now whether people want to make snide remarks or not is up to them - I'm just passing on what I heard, first person, from Koeman at Staplewood. Take it or leave it. Can't tell us what he said but confirming that Koeman has told you he's signing for us next year.....
Boondock Saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Pelle - sh*t Tadic - meh Long - kinda sh*t Elia - meh Djuricic - sh*t Gardos -sh*t Forster - sh*t Bertrand - Very good Toby - Excellent Mane - GOAT Thats a 3 out of 10 success rate, he's been a bit w@nk in the transfer market so far. Pastor Patrón - Excellent trolling
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Isn't Vilhena more of an attacking player, more likely to play where Steven Davis does? Pretty sure he wouldn't be our Schneiderlin replacement, would he? Pretty underwhelming if true.
MbaleSaint Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 as memory serves....Saint Armstrong has come up with some accurate info. before. I wish some others who come up with more outrageous posts were a bit closet to the truth.... "forgotten" by me quote.. (maybe Mark Twain? )... " a rumour can travel halfway around the World....whilst Truth ...is still putting on its shoes..." 'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.' Winston Churchill
SuperSAINT Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Isn't Vilhena more of an attacking player, more likely to play where Steven Davis does? Pretty sure he wouldn't be our Schneiderlin replacement, would he? Pretty underwhelming if true. Think he can do a bit of both. Tell you what though, if we lose Morgan in the summer and we bring in Clasie & Vilhena, we will have the worlds shortest central midfield, along with Harrison Reed
alpine_saint Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 The good news for me here is not the specifics of this deal, but more that the scope of our summer replacement exercise known by the club already and plans are pobably largely in place. Hopefully means a worry-free (or at least not much worry) summer.
Convict Colony Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Isn't Vilhena more of an attacking player, more likely to play where Steven Davis does? Pretty sure he wouldn't be our Schneiderlin replacement, would he? Pretty underwhelming if true. He is indeed more of a Davis player, I think we will get Classie for Morgan (Classie also does quite a few assists). He started 29 games in the last season with Koeman, scored 6 goals and assisted in 7 goals, that is good enough for me.
Convict Colony Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 Think he can do a bit of both. Tell you what though, if we lose Morgan in the summer and we bring in Clasie & Vilhena, we will have the worlds shortest central midfield, along with Harrison Reed We are the Barca of the premier league
Window Cleaner Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 He is indeed more of a Davis player, I think we will get Classie for Morgan (Classie also does quite a few assists). He started 29 games in the last season with Koeman, scored 6 goals and assisted in 7 goals. So we're going to be Feyenoord in disguise is that it, we'll see how that pans out for us, could be worse I suppose.
iansums Posted 25 March, 2015 Posted 25 March, 2015 The good news for me here is not the specifics of this deal, but more that the scope of our summer replacement exercise known by the club already and plans are pobably largely in place. Hopefully means a worry-free (or at least not much worry) summer. Don't worry Alps I'm sure that when Morgan and Clyne leave there will be plenty for you to worry about.
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