Batman Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 Potentially two ties. One 2 legged third round qualifier, which is at the end of July, and if we get through that then another 2 legged play off (Mid-august) to see who gets into the Group stages. The 2 legged play off is contested against the winners from the third round and the teams kicked out of the CL qualifiers. ffs, we will probably lose out like last time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 ffs, we will probably lose out like last time Who knows, the standard in these qualifiers are pretty poor. Not sure on how the seeding works, but Hull as an example got drawn against Trenčín in the first round, and Lokeren in the play off (they lost to them on away goals). Spurs got through by beating AEL Limassol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 25 May, 2015 Share Posted 25 May, 2015 If it were football manager, we would have no chance of losing either qualifier. West Ham gets to play 8 of those games starting in late June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 West Ham have qualified for Europa League through the Fair Play system http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32889068 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 West Ham have qualified for Europa League through the Fair Play system http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32889068 The only issue with doing it that way is they have to go through a first round qualifier, 2nd round qualifier, 3rd round qualifier and a play off before they even enter the group stages. All starts in about a months time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Who knows, the standard in these qualifiers are pretty poor. Not sure on how the seeding works, but Hull as an example got drawn against Trenčín in the first round, and Lokeren in the play off (they lost to them on away goals). Spurs got through by beating AEL Limassol Seeding is based on a club coefficient, they seed half the teams in each round based on that coefficient so a seeded team always plays an unseeded team (in every round) - I'm doing a bit of research based on recent scores and to me it looks like we'd be seeded in the 3rd QR and possibly not in the Play Off round. If we get into the Europa League, our coefficient score will be about 17, similar to Hull's as they also had England's score plus nothing extra for not being in Europe recently - but since last year the number of teams in the various rounds and the proportion of teams falling into the EL from the CL has changed. So whilst Hull were seeded for both rounds, we could end up unseeded for the playoff round with 15 CL 3rd Q losers (all likely to be recent European qualifiers with decent previous records) of the 44 teams (rather than the 15 of 62 it was last year). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 if we are unseeded. we could get Dortmund in the qualifiers.....then again, doubt they would be in the qualifiers..(have no idea how it works BTW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) To add a bit more detail - currently no team in the First Qualifying Round has a coefficient more than Saints would have (though West Ham might well have the same score and it could be better if they have a recent European record I've forgotten about): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_UEFA_Europa_League#Group_stage First qualifying round The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 22 June 2015. The first legs will be played on 2 July, and the second legs will be played on 9 July 2015. A total of 104 teams are expected to play in the first qualifying round. Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol Coeff. 14.500 Norway Rosenborg Coeff. 11.875 Sweden Elfsborg Coeff. 11.545 Croatia Hajduk Split Coeff. 11.200 Cyprus Apollon Limassol Coeff. 10.460 Cyprus Omonia Coeff. 10.460 Slovakia Slovan Bratislava Coeff. 9.250 Sweden AIK Coeff. 9.045 Azerbaijan Neftchi Baku Coeff. 9.000 Slovakia Žilina Coeff. 8.750 Kazakhstan Aktobe Coeff. 8.575 Netherlands Go Ahead Eagles Coeff. 8.195 Serbia Red Star Belgrade Coeff. 7.775 Denmark Brøndby Coeff. 7.460 Belarus Shakhtyor Soligorsk Coeff. 7.150 Georgia (country) Dinamo Tbilisi Coeff. 6.875 Serbia Vojvodina CC: 6.275 Slovakia Spartak Trnava Coeff. 6.250 Iceland FH Coeff. 6.100 Sweden IFK Göteborg Coeff. 6.045 Norway Strømsgodset Coeff. 5.875 Iceland KR Coeff. 5.600 Romania Botoșani Coeff. 5.259 Republic of Ireland Shamrock Rovers Coeff. 5.150 Luxembourg F91 Dudelange Coeff. 5.025 Azerbaijan Inter Baku Coeff. 5.000 Northern Ireland Linfield Coeff. 4.975 Malta Valletta Coeff. 4.841 Luxembourg Differdange 03 Coeff. 4.775 Republic of Macedonia Rabotnički CC: 4.675 Belarus Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino Coeff. 4.650 Scotland Aberdeen Coeff. 4.580 Moldova Dacia Chișinău Coeff. 4.500 Slovenia Koper Coeff. 4.475 Republic of Ireland St Patrick's Athletic Coeff. 4.400 Israel Beitar Jerusalem Coeff. 4.200 Faroe Islands HB Coeff. 3.950 Montenegro Budućnost Podgorica Coeff. 3.875 Malta Birkirkara Coeff. 3.591 Scotland Inverness CT Coeff. 3.580 Slovenia Domžale Coeff. 3.475 Liechtenstein Vaduz Coeff. 3.450 Serbia Čukarički Coeff. 3.275 Slovenia Celje Coeff. 3.225 Hungary Ferencváros Coeff. 3.200 Estonia Flora Tallinn Coeff. 3.200 Latvia Skonto Coeff. 3.100 Faroe Islands Víkingur Gøta Coeff. 2.950 Republic of Macedonia Renova Coeff. 2.925 Norway Odd Coeff. 2.875 Albania Kukësi Coeff. 2.825 Azerbaijan Gabala Coeff. 2.750 Republic of Macedonia Shkëndija Coeff. 2.675 Kazakhstan Kairat Coeff. 2.575 Kazakhstan Ordabasy Coeff. 2.575 Moldova Tiraspol Coeff. 2.500 Hungary MTK Budapest Coeff. 2.450 Armenia Shirak Coeff. 2.300 Montenegro Mladost Podgorica Coeff. 2.125 Armenia Ulisses Coeff. 2.050 Northern Ireland Glentoran Coeff. 1.975 Finland VPS Coeff. 1.890 Georgia (country) Dinamo Batumi Coeff. 1.875 Estonia Sillamäe Kalev Coeff. 1.700 Andorra Lusitanos Coeff. 1.666 Finland SJK Coeff. 1.640 Finland Lahti Coeff. 1.640 Iceland Víkingur Reykjavík Coeff. 1.600 Latvia Jelgava Coeff. 1.600 Faroe Islands NSÍ Runavík Coeff. 1.450 Andorra Sant Julià Coeff. 1.416 Lithuania Atlantas Coeff. 1.400 Northern Ireland Glenavon Coeff. 1.225 Republic of Ireland Cork City Coeff. 1.150 Republic of Ireland UCD Coeff. 1.150 Lithuania Kruoja Pakruojis Coeff. 1.150 San Marino La Fiorita Coeff. 1.099 Wales Airbus UK Broughton Coeff. 1.075 Albania Partizani Tirana Coeff. 1.075 Luxembourg Progrès Niederkorn Coeff. 1.025 Lithuania Trakai Coeff. 0.900 Latvia Liepāja Coeff. 0.850 Malta Balzan Coeff. 0.841 Wales Bala Town Coeff. 0.825 Wales Newtown Coeff. 0.575 San Marino Folgore Coeff. 0.349 Denmark Third or fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Danish Superliga Croatia Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Croatian First Football League Poland Runners-up of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa Poland Third-placed team of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa Bulgaria Winners of 2014–15 Bulgarian Cup Bulgaria Runners-up of 2014–15 A PFG Bulgaria Third-placed team of 2014–15 A PFG Hungary Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Nemzeti Bajnokság I Georgia (country) Winners of 2014–15 Georgian Cup Bosnia and Herzegovina Winners of 2014–15 Bosnia and Herzegovina Football Cup Bosnia and Herzegovina Runners-up of 2014–15 Premier League of Bosnia and Herzegovina Bosnia and Herzegovina Third-placed team of 2014–15 Premier League of Bosnia and Herzegovina Montenegro Runners-up of 2014–15 Montenegrin First League Albania Winners of 2014–15 Albanian Cup Armenia Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Armenian Premier League Estonia Winners of 2014–15 Estonian Cup Gibraltar Winners of 2015 Rock Cup England West Ham United Fair Play berth Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) Half the teams in the First Qualifying Round will be seeded to face the half who are unseeded, the 52 winners will be joined by these 14 in the Second Qualifying Round: (Only 2 of these teams are likely to have a better coefficient than Saints). Denmark Copenhagen Coeff. 40.960 Poland Legia Warsaw Coeff. 24.800 Croatia Rijeka Coeff. 13.700 Romania Astra Giurgiu Coeff. 9.759 Belarus Dinamo Minsk Coeff. 9.650 Cyprus AEK Larnaca Coeff. 8.460 Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva Coeff. 4.700 Belgium Winners of 2014–15 Belgian Pro League Europa League play-offs Turkey Fifth-placed team of 2014–15 Süper Lig Greece Fifth-placed team of 2014–15 Superleague Greece Switzerland Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Swiss Super League Austria Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Austrian Football Bundesliga Czech Republic Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Czech First League Scotland Winners of 2014–15 Scottish Cup Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) The 33 Second Qualifying Round winners from above are joined by the 25 teams (including Saints) who go directly into the 3rd Qualifying Round: This is all assuming Villa don't win the Cup of course. At this stage there can only be the 2 teams from earlier in the competition plus 6 or 7 others with coefficients of more than Saints' score (plus West Ham), and with only 11 teams still to be decided so at most 20-ish seeded teams ahead of Saints. As there are 58 teams in this round, Saints would be seeded to play one of the teams with the lowest 29 coefficient scores. Germany Schalke 04 Coeff. 111.883 or Borussia Dortmund Coeff. 99.883 Spain Villarreal or Athletic Bilbao Coeff. TBD France Marseille Coeff. 55.483 Netherlands AZ Coeff. 46.695 Belgium Standard Liège Coeff. 25.440 Portugal Vitória de Guimarães Coeff. 17.776 England SAINTS (Coeff. tbc but around 17-ish) France Saint-Étienne Coeff. 16.983 Portugal Belenenses Coeff. 12.276 Ukraine Vorskla Poltava Coeff. TBD Ukraine Zorya Luhansk Coeff. TBD Czech Republic Jablonec Coeff. 9.325 Israel Ironi Kiryat Shmona coeff. 7.200 Italy Sixth-placed team of 2014–15 Serie A Russia Third-placed team of 2014–15 Russian Premier League Russia Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Russian Premier League Netherlands Winners of 2014–15 Eredivisie Europa League play-offs Turkey Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Süper Lig Greece Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Superleague Greece Switzerland Winners of 2014–15 Swiss Cup Switzerland Third-placed team of 2014–15 Swiss Super League Austria Winners of 2014–15 Austrian Cup Austria Third-placed team of 2014–15 Austrian Football Bundesliga Czech Republic Winners of 2014–15 Czech Cup Romania Winners of 2014–15 Cupa României or runners-up of 2014–15 Liga I Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Is the Third Qualifying round drawn on a regional basis at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) Should we get through the 3rd Qualifying Round, we'd then go into the Europa League Play-Off Round with the other 28 winners plus the 15 losers of the Champions League 3rd Qualifying Round. 44 teams in all. Obviously that's more difficult to work out, as no idea who the 15 CL 3rd QR knocked out teams are or which of the other sides will go through and whether they'd be seeds or not in the previous round, but a lot of the teams dropping in are likely to be previous champions and have previous coefficient points from CL, so more likely to outrank Saints. Last year there were more teams in the pre-Group stages, but working out the approximate numbers... 22/62 teams in that round (about 1/3 had scores of over 17). That's actually better than I thought, and gives a decent chance of Saints being seeded. But we're a long way from knowing whether we'd be seeded or not in that final pre-group qualifying. Anyway, in the Group Stages there will be 22 winners from EL PlayOff Round, plus 10 losers of CL Play-Off Round, plus these 16: England Tottenham Hotspur Coeff. 84.078 Spain Sevilla Coeff. TBD Portugal Braga Coeff. 51.776 Italy Fiorentina Coeff. TBD Belgium Anderlecht Coeff. 47.440 Turkey Beşiktaş Coeff. 36.520 Russia Lokomotiv Moscow Coeff. 23.099 Germany Augsburg Coeff. 15.883 Netherlands Groningen Coeff. 8.695 Spain Winners of 2014–15 Copa del Rey England Winners of 2014–15 FA Cup Germany Winners of 2014–15 DFB-Pokal Italy Fourth or fifth-placed team of 2014–15 Serie A France Winners of 2014–15 Coupe de France Ukraine Winners of 2014–15 Ukrainian Cup or third-placed team of 2014–15 Ukrainian Premier League Greece Third-placed team of 2014–15 Superleague Greece All of those teams will be drawn (via a far more complicated seeding pot process) into groups of 4 (6 fixtures, playing everyone else in the group home and away) with the top 2 from each group to go into the Europa League Last 32 along with the 8 CL Group stage 3rd place teams. Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) Is the Third Qualifying round drawn on a regional basis at all? Only in the sense that you can't draw anyone from your own country. We could easily end up in Azerbaijan or Israel (Ironi Kiryat Shmona are in 3rd Qualifying Round with a low coefficient). Unlikely an Azeri team (Gabala or Neftchi Baku, as it happens) would get that far though, just as likely to be playing Airbus UK / Newtown / Bala from Wales who also start in 1st Qualifying Round. To give you some idea of the standard of some of those clubs, the Welsh Premier League sides don't usually get to the 2nd Qualifying Round, and I'm comfortable in saying they're around bottom half Conference South standard. Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) if we are unseeded. we could get Dortmund in the qualifiers.....then again, doubt they would be in the qualifiers..(have no idea how it works BTW) We won't in the 3rd Qualifying Round, which is the point Dortmund would enter if they don't win the DFB Pokal. We would also be seeded at that point. There is the possibility we could draw them in the next round IF we both get through AND there are a lot of CL drop-ins who have better coefficients along with a lot of survivors which already had better coefficients. But they can also go straight to the Group Stages if they win the Pokal (German Cup). "Either Schalke 04 or Borussia Dortmund will enter the group stage instead of the third qualifying round. Schalke 04 will enter the group stage if Wolfsburg win the 2014–15 DFB-Pokal. Borussia Dortmund will enter the group stage if they win the cup." Edited 26 May, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 (edited) Only in the sense that you can't draw anyone from your own country. We could easily end up in Azerbaijan or Israel (Ironi Kiryat Shmona are in 3rd Qualifying Round with a low coefficient). Unlikely an Azeri team (Gabala or Neftchi Baku, as it happens) would get that far though, just as likely to be playing Airbus UK / Newtown / Bala from Wales who also start in 1st Qualifying Round. To give you some idea of the standard of some of those clubs, the Welsh Premier League sides don't usually get to the 2nd Qualifying Round, and I'm comfortable in saying they're around bottom half Conference South standard. Cheers. Getting a Russian or Belarussian side short notice would be hard work in terms of visa etc. Edited 26 May, 2015 by Sour Mash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 arsenal better hand the villa arsehole to tactics tim at the weekend. surely wlacott will start. Look how we beat villa, pace pace and pace upfront. Villa are dreadfully slow at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Cheers. Getting a Russian or Belarussian side short notice would be hard work in terms of via etc. Draw for 3QR is 17th July, first leg is 30th July, that would be REALLY pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 arsenal better hand the villa arsehole to tactics tim at the weekend. surely wlacott will start. Look how we beat villa, pace pace and pace upfront. Villa are dreadfully slow at the back I somehow doubt Sherwood will make the mistake of playing that defence on the halfway line again, though if he's reading this, it would be a REALLY GOOD IDEA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Draw for 3QR is 17th July, first leg is 30th July, that would be REALLY pushing it. Though actually, I've had a quick look, and they can do turnaround for a Russian visa next working day if you pay them enough... although the £100 for the visa itself, plus additional sums for delivery, passport return and need to actually visit the embassy to provide biometric information seem to be a tad tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Thanks for all the research The9; think I'll just wait for the draw and see, but sod £100 for a visa and expensive flights. I'm hoping more for somewhere like Dudelange or Differdange, jump on the ferry and stock up on Belgian beers on the way home... Based on the assumption that Arsenal actually win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Thanks for all the research The9; think I'll just wait for the draw and see, but sod £100 for a visa and expensive flights. I'm hoping more for somewhere like Dudelange or Differdange, jump on the ferry and stock up on Belgian beers on the way home... Based on the assumption that Arsenal actually win. And the assumption that either of those Luxembourg teams manage to navigate 2 rounds of Europa League, which hasn't happened often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Very good info The9, thanks for that. Another reason why the EL is good for us is to boost our coefficient rating......as for example, if we did go straight into the Top 4 this season and got to play the qualifier tie, we would be up against a European mega-power. So if we can just bide our trade in the EL for a few seasons, boost our coefficient and we'll be in a better position to have a crack higher up. (Obviously, come on Arsenal..!) If we did get into the Groups, we'd be in Pot 4, so potentially a very tough group to get out of as well. When you look at the EL and the teams in it, you do feel that the CL this season would have been way too much way too soon. We'd have been bumped right out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Very good info The9, thanks for that. Another reason why the EL is good for us is to boost our coefficient rating......as for example, if we did go straight into the Top 4 this season and got to play the qualifier tie, we would be up against a European mega-power. So if we can just bide our trade in the EL for a few seasons, boost our coefficient and we'll be in a better position to have a crack higher up. (Obviously, come on Arsenal..!) If we did get into the Groups, we'd be in Pot 4, so potentially a very tough group to get out of as well. When you look at the EL and the teams in it, you do feel that the CL this season would have been way too much way too soon. We'd have been bumped right out of it. top 4/champions league is now seeded on where you finish in the league. I am sure I have read somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 top 4/champions league is now seeded on where you finish in the league. I am sure I have read somewhere They've changed it so the top seeds are the reigning champions and the top 7 countries' national champions (the team with the next best coefficient will be added to the top seeded pot as the winners will already be one of the national champions) and then the remaining pots are by coefficient as the whole thing used to be. You still can't draw someone from the same country in the group though. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29562047 http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/newsid=2236360.html "A significant change in the regulations concerns the seedings for the group stage draw on 28 August. Previously, the pots were ordered purely by the coefficients of the competing clubs. Now, the top pot will be formed by the champions of the top seven associations – that is, Spain, England, Germany, Italy, Portugal, France and Russia – plus the UEFA Champions League title holders." So S-Clarke's point about us needing to get our coefficient up still stands, unless of course we win the Premier League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brave Sir Robin Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I see West Ham are through to Europa via fair play, meaning the season will start for them on July 2nd! The more I learn about this competition the more I think we'll have dodged a bullet if Villa win the cup! If we qualify, I hope we go for it, but I'm right behind Les's hint that we'll field more youngsters than we would in league games, at least in the early stages. Far too risky with a small squad otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 I see West Ham are through to Europa via fair play, meaning the season will start for them on July 2nd! The more I learn about this competition the more I think we'll have dodged a bullet if Villa win the cup! If we qualify, I hope we go for it, but I'm right behind Les's hint that we'll field more youngsters than we would in league games, at least in the early stages. Far too risky with a small squad otherwise. Why is it a problem for us that a different team in the same competition has to play 4 more matches than we do if we qualify for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donatello Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Thanks, The9. The sort of posts I hoped for when I joined this forum (i.e. informative) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 And the assumption that either of those Luxembourg teams manage to navigate 2 rounds of Europa League, which hasn't happened often. Hah, I _knew_ I didn't understand! Well actually I didn't bother making the effort, and as you point out it'll all change when the CL rejects get parachuted in. My point about waiting still stands though. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 To add a bit more detail - currently no team in the First Qualifying Round has a coefficient more than Saints would have (though West Ham might well have the same score and it could be better if they have a recent European record I've forgotten about): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015%E2%80%9316_UEFA_Europa_League#Group_stage First qualifying round The draw for the first qualifying round will be held on 22 June 2015. The first legs will be played on 2 July, and the second legs will be played on 9 July 2015. A total of 104 teams are expected to play in the first qualifying round. Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol Coeff. 14.500 Norway Rosenborg Coeff. 11.875 Sweden Elfsborg Coeff. 11.545 Croatia Hajduk Split Coeff. 11.200 Cyprus Apollon Limassol Coeff. 10.460 Cyprus Omonia Coeff. 10.460 Slovakia Slovan Bratislava Coeff. 9.250 Sweden AIK Coeff. 9.045 Azerbaijan Neftchi Baku Coeff. 9.000 Slovakia Žilina Coeff. 8.750 Kazakhstan Aktobe Coeff. 8.575 Netherlands Go Ahead Eagles Coeff. 8.195 Serbia Red Star Belgrade Coeff. 7.775 Denmark Brøndby Coeff. 7.460 Belarus Shakhtyor Soligorsk Coeff. 7.150 Georgia (country) Dinamo Tbilisi Coeff. 6.875 Serbia Vojvodina CC: 6.275 Slovakia Spartak Trnava Coeff. 6.250 Iceland FH Coeff. 6.100 Sweden IFK Göteborg Coeff. 6.045 Norway Strømsgodset Coeff. 5.875 Iceland KR Coeff. 5.600 Romania Botoșani Coeff. 5.259 Republic of Ireland Shamrock Rovers Coeff. 5.150 Luxembourg F91 Dudelange Coeff. 5.025 Azerbaijan Inter Baku Coeff. 5.000 Northern Ireland Linfield Coeff. 4.975 Malta Valletta Coeff. 4.841 Luxembourg Differdange 03 Coeff. 4.775 Republic of Macedonia Rabotnički CC: 4.675 Belarus Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino Coeff. 4.650 Scotland Aberdeen Coeff. 4.580 Moldova Dacia Chișinău Coeff. 4.500 Slovenia Koper Coeff. 4.475 Republic of Ireland St Patrick's Athletic Coeff. 4.400 Israel Beitar Jerusalem Coeff. 4.200 Faroe Islands HB Coeff. 3.950 Montenegro Budućnost Podgorica Coeff. 3.875 Malta Birkirkara Coeff. 3.591 Scotland Inverness CT Coeff. 3.580 Slovenia Domžale Coeff. 3.475 Liechtenstein Vaduz Coeff. 3.450 Serbia Čukarički Coeff. 3.275 Slovenia Celje Coeff. 3.225 Hungary Ferencváros Coeff. 3.200 Estonia Flora Tallinn Coeff. 3.200 Latvia Skonto Coeff. 3.100 Faroe Islands Víkingur Gøta Coeff. 2.950 Republic of Macedonia Renova Coeff. 2.925 Norway Odd Coeff. 2.875 Albania Kukësi Coeff. 2.825 Azerbaijan Gabala Coeff. 2.750 Republic of Macedonia Shkëndija Coeff. 2.675 Kazakhstan Kairat Coeff. 2.575 Kazakhstan Ordabasy Coeff. 2.575 Moldova Tiraspol Coeff. 2.500 Hungary MTK Budapest Coeff. 2.450 Armenia Shirak Coeff. 2.300 Montenegro Mladost Podgorica Coeff. 2.125 Armenia Ulisses Coeff. 2.050 Northern Ireland Glentoran Coeff. 1.975 Finland VPS Coeff. 1.890 Georgia (country) Dinamo Batumi Coeff. 1.875 Estonia Sillamäe Kalev Coeff. 1.700 Andorra Lusitanos Coeff. 1.666 Finland SJK Coeff. 1.640 Finland Lahti Coeff. 1.640 Iceland Víkingur Reykjavík Coeff. 1.600 Latvia Jelgava Coeff. 1.600 Faroe Islands NSÍ Runavík Coeff. 1.450 Andorra Sant Julià Coeff. 1.416 Lithuania Atlantas Coeff. 1.400 Northern Ireland Glenavon Coeff. 1.225 Republic of Ireland Cork City Coeff. 1.150 Republic of Ireland UCD Coeff. 1.150 Lithuania Kruoja Pakruojis Coeff. 1.150 San Marino La Fiorita Coeff. 1.099 Wales Airbus UK Broughton Coeff. 1.075 Albania Partizani Tirana Coeff. 1.075 Luxembourg Progrès Niederkorn Coeff. 1.025 Lithuania Trakai Coeff. 0.900 Latvia Liepāja Coeff. 0.850 Malta Balzan Coeff. 0.841 Wales Bala Town Coeff. 0.825 Wales Newtown Coeff. 0.575 San Marino Folgore Coeff. 0.349 Denmark Third or fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Danish Superliga Croatia Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Croatian First Football League Poland Runners-up of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa Poland Third-placed team of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa Bulgaria Winners of 2014–15 Bulgarian Cup Bulgaria Runners-up of 2014–15 A PFG Bulgaria Third-placed team of 2014–15 A PFG Hungary Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Nemzeti Bajnokság I Georgia (country) Winners of 2014–15 Georgian Cup Bosnia and Herzegovina Winners of 2014–15 Bosnia and Herzegovina Football Cup Bosnia and Herzegovina Runners-up of 2014–15 Premier League of Bosnia and Herzegovina Bosnia and Herzegovina Third-placed team of 2014–15 Premier League of Bosnia and Herzegovina Montenegro Runners-up of 2014–15 Montenegrin First League Albania Winners of 2014–15 Albanian Cup Armenia Fourth-placed team of 2014–15 Armenian Premier League Estonia Winners of 2014–15 Estonian Cup Gibraltar Winners of 2015 Rock Cup England West Ham United Fair Play berth I've already done a few of those grounds above, think my choice in the 3rd Qualifying round would be Skonto Riga for the Pahars connections (plus top trip) or Shamrock Rovers or St Patricks over in Ireland, or Inverness Caledonian Thistle - would be a dream for a half & half scarf collector like myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 May, 2015 Share Posted 26 May, 2015 Just my luck we will get to play Vitória de Guimarães again. Been there (well the home leg anyway), done that. 5-1 again would of course be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 May, 2015 Share Posted 27 May, 2015 Hah, I _knew_ I didn't understand! Well actually I didn't bother making the effort, and as you point out it'll all change when the CL rejects get parachuted in. My point about waiting still stands though. ;-) Basically both the Luxembourg sides you mentioned start in Qualfying Round 1 with lots of other smaller countries' runners-up (and the Fair Play winners), and Saints wouldn't start til the 3rd Qualifying Round, so for us to play them they'd have to win through 2 rounds - my calculations suggest we'd be seeded in 3QR and based on coefficient the Luxies wouldn't so there would then be a chance of drawing them. It's straight two-legged knockouts until the Group Stage itself (with away goals counting) so at least that bit is straightforward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 27 May, 2015 Share Posted 27 May, 2015 I've already done a few of those grounds above, think my choice in the 3rd Qualifying round would be Skonto Riga for the Pahars connections (plus top trip) or Shamrock Rovers or St Patricks over in Ireland, or Inverness Caledonian Thistle - would be a dream for a half & half scarf collector like myself I've been to one. West Ham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 27 May, 2015 Share Posted 27 May, 2015 It's a toss up between going to one of the easy to get to places early on (Belgium/Lux/NL) or hope that we get through and get a reasonable tie (in terms of location and team) later on. I fancy Genoa/Sampdoria as I could line up a place to stay there. As for the rest, well, most cities are within 200 miles of a Ryanair airport!;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Seeing as the "European Tour" thread got inexplicably locked for some petty waahing which mods could have just deleted, probably best to keep the Europa info in one place. Saints coefficient confirmed as 16.078 (not quite 17 but not a bad guess ). We will be seeded in the 3rd Qualifying Round, and play one of the teams with the 29 lowest coefficients in that round. We probably won't be seeded in the Play-Off round because of the teams dropping in from the Champions League 3Q and the fact that most likely the other seeded teams will have progressed from the EL 3Q and now there are only around half as many sides (exact numbers above). This means we'll miss the top clubs in 3Q but could get one in Play Off round. Since last posting on this thread I've noticed that the 3Q Draw (17th July) takes place BEFORE the second leg of the 2Q round (23rd July), so whilst we'll be drawn against "either/or" a pairing from the 2Q round, that's really not that helpful in booking travel. Though if someone is 6 goals up in the first leg... We will at least know who's home and away on which dates then, as they'll be drawn at the same time as the teams. Unless they change it from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Seeing as the "European Tour" thread got inexplicably locked for some petty waahing which mods could have just deleted, probably best to keep the Europa info in one place. Saints coefficient confirmed as 16.078 (not quite 17 but not a bad guess ). We will be seeded in the 3rd Qualifying Round, and play one of the teams with the 29 lowest coefficients in that round. We probably won't be seeded in the Play-Off round because of the teams dropping in from the Champions League 3Q and the fact that most likely the other seeded teams will have progressed from the EL 3Q and now there are only around half as many sides (exact numbers above). This means we'll miss the top clubs in 3Q but could get one in Play Off round. Since last posting on this thread I've noticed that the 3Q Draw (17th July) takes place BEFORE the second leg of the 2Q round (23rd July), so whilst we'll be drawn against "either/or" a pairing from the 2Q round, that's really not that helpful in booking travel. Though if someone is 6 goals up in the first leg... We will at least know who's home and away on which dates then, as they'll be drawn at the same time as the teams. Unless they change it from last year. That thread has been deleted? There was some decent stuff on there, that's ridiculous. Yeah, I noticed the same over the weekend re 2nd round, 2nd leg date, so potentially less than a week's notice to sort out flights, hotels, visas being pretty much impossible. Stupid situation. Also worked out that even seeded, there is no way of knowing if we'll be home or away on either date until the actuall draw has been made, no "seeded teams away first" policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 (edited) Here's the latest access list: Round of 32 (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) (UCL GS) Group stage Spain Villarreal (6th) Portugal Braga (4th) Greece (3rd) (UCL PO) England Tottenham Hotspur (5th) France Marseille (4th) Switzerland (CW)[Note SUI] (UCL PO) England Liverpool (6th) Russia Lokomotiv Moscow (CW) (UCL PO) (UCL PO) Germany Augsburg (5th) Netherlands Groningen (CW) (UCL PO) (UCL PO) Germany Schalke 04 (6th) Ukraine Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk (3rd) (UCL PO) (UCL PO) Italy Fiorentina (4th) Belgium Anderlecht (3rd) (UCL PO) Italy Napoli (5th) Turkey Beşiktaş (3rd) (UCL PO) Play-off round (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) (UCL Q3) Third qualifying round Spain Athletic Bilbao (7th) France Bordeaux (6th) Belgium Standard Liège (4th) Czech Republic Jablonec (3rd) England Southampton (7th) Russia Krasnodar (3rd) Turkey İstanbul Başakşehir (4th) Romania Târgu Mureș (2nd) Germany Borussia Dortmund (7th) Russia Dynamo Moscow (4th)[Note RUS] Greece (4th)[Note GRE] Israel Ironi Kiryat Shmona (2nd) Italy Sampdoria (7th)[Note ITA] Netherlands AZ (3rd) Switzerland Zürich (3rd)[Note SUI] Cyprus AEK Larnaca (2nd) Portugal Vitória de Guimarães (5th) Netherlands Vitesse (P-W) Austria (CW)[Note AUT] Portugal Belenenses (6th) Ukraine Zorya Luhansk (4th) Austria Rheindorf Altach (3rd) France Saint-Étienne (5th) Ukraine Vorskla Poltava (5th) Czech Republic Slovan Liberec (CW) Second qualifying round Belgium Charleroi (P-W) Austria Sturm Graz (4th)[Note AUT] Denmark Copenhagen (CW) Scotland Inverness CT (CW) Turkey Trabzonspor (5th)[Note TUR] Czech Republic Mladá Boleslav (4th) Croatia Rijeka (2nd) Sweden IFK Göteborg (CW) Greece (5th)[Note GRE] Romania Astra Giurgiu (4th)[Note ROU] Poland Legia Warsaw (CW)[Note POL] Bulgaria Cherno More Varna (CW) Switzerland Thun (4th)[Note SUI] Israel Hapoel Be'er Sheva (3rd) Belarus Dinamo Minsk (2nd) First qualifying round Romania Botoșani (8th)[Note ROU] Hungary Debrecen (4th) Iceland FH (2nd) Liechtenstein Vaduz (CW) Israel Beitar Jerusalem (4th) Slovenia Koper (CW) Iceland Víkingur Reykjavík (4th) Northern Ireland Glentoran (CW) Cyprus Apollon Limassol (3rd) Slovenia Celje (2nd) Latvia Jelgava (CW) Northern Ireland Linfield (2nd) Cyprus Omonia (4th) Slovenia Domžale (3rd) Latvia Skonto (2nd) Northern Ireland Glenavon (3rd) Denmark Brøndby (3rd) Slovakia Žilina (2nd) Latvia Spartaks Jūrmala (6th)[Note LVA] Wales Bala Town (2nd) Denmark Randers (4th) Slovakia Slovan Bratislava (3rd) Montenegro Mladost Podgorica (CW) Wales Airbus UK Broughton (3rd) Croatia Hajduk Split (3rd) Slovakia Spartak Trnava (4th) Montenegro Sutjeska Nikšić (2nd) Wales Newtown (P-W) Croatia Lokomotiva (4th) Moldova Sheriff Tiraspol (CW) Montenegro Budućnost Podgorica (3rd) Armenia Ulisses (2nd) Poland (2nd/3rd) Moldova Dacia Chișinău (2nd) Albania Laçi (CW) Armenia Shirak (3rd) Poland (4th) Moldova Saxan (5th)[Note MDA] Albania Kukësi (2nd) Armenia Alashkert (4th) Belarus Shakhtyor Soligorsk (3rd) Azerbaijan Inter Baku (2nd) Albania Partizani Tirana (3rd) Estonia Nõmme Kalju (CW) Belarus Torpedo-BelAZ Zhodino (4th) Azerbaijan Gabala (3rd) Lithuania Kruoja Pakruojis (2nd) Estonia Sillamäe Kalev (2nd) Scotland Aberdeen (2nd) Azerbaijan Neftchi Baku (CW/4th) Lithuania Atlantas (3rd) Estonia Flora Tallinn (3rd) Scotland St. Johnstone (4th) Georgia (country) Dinamo Tbilisi (CW) Lithuania Trakai (4th) Faroe Islands Víkingur Gøta (CW) Sweden AIK (3rd) Georgia (country) Dinamo Batumi (2nd) Republic of Macedonia Rabotnički (CW) Faroe Islands HB (2nd) Sweden Elfsborg (4th) Georgia (country) Spartaki Tskhinvali (4th) Republic of Macedonia Shkëndija (3rd) Faroe Islands NSÍ Runavík (4th) Bulgaria Beroe Stara Zagora (2nd) Kazakhstan Kairat (CW) Republic of Macedonia Renova (4th) San Marino Juvenes/Dogana (2nd) Bulgaria Lokomotiv Sofia (3rd) Kazakhstan Aktobe (2nd) Republic of Ireland St Patrick's Athletic (CW) San Marino La Fiorita (3rd) Norway Rosenborg (2nd) Kazakhstan Ordabasy (4th) Republic of Ireland Cork City (2nd) Andorra Sant Julià (CW) Norway Odd (3rd) Bosnia and Herzegovina Olimpic (CW) Republic of Ireland Shamrock Rovers (4th) Andorra Lusitanos (2nd) Norway Strømsgodset (4th) Bosnia and Herzegovina Željezničar (2nd) Luxembourg Differdange 03 (CW) Gibraltar College Europa (2nd) Serbia Čukarički (CW) Bosnia and Herzegovina Zrinjski Mostar (3rd) Luxembourg F91 Dudelange (3rd) Netherlands Go Ahead Eagles (FP)[16] Serbia Red Star Belgrade (2nd) Finland SJK (2nd) Luxembourg Progrès Niederkorn (4th) England West Ham United (FP)[17] Serbia Vojvodina (4th) Finland Lahti (3rd) Malta Birkirkara (CW) Republic of Ireland UCD (FP)[18][19] Hungary Ferencváros (CW) Finland VPS (4th) Malta Valletta (2nd) Hungary MTK Budapest (3rd) Iceland KR (CW) Malta Balzan (4th) There are currently only 15 teams with a higher coefficient than Saints, only 5 more yet to be decided, and there are 29 ties in the 3rd Qualifying Round, so we will be seeded on the 3rd Qualifying Round as we have to be one of the "top 29". In the Play Off Round there will be 15 Champions League drop-outs added, and only 22 matches. Unless the CL drop-ins are teams with low coefficients we're unlikely to be seeded: There are 34 teams in CL 2Q and no more than 8 of those will have a higher coefficient than Saints - assuming they all make the CL 3Q, 8 of the teams who are added into CL 3QR will also have higher coefficients, which means most likely 16 of the teams in the Champions League 3QR will have better coefficients than Saints. In 15 matches. However, it is of course the 15 LOSERS of that 3QR will drop into the EL Play Off Round, so you'd expect these to be the sides with lower ratings. There are, however, 18 teams with lower coefficients than Saints in the CL 3Q, so it is still possible that if the 15 losers are all the lowest coefficient sides we'd be seeded in PO round. That would leave 15 CL drop-ins with lower co-efficients, there are also 13 teams in the EL 3Q with lower coefficients, and 22 of the 44 teams are to be seeded. In that scenario Saints would also be a seed in the Play Off round. Every upset in the CL 3Q will reduce our chances of being seeded in the PO round and every upset in the EL 3Q (except Saints' match) will increase our chances. Six of those results going against coefficient would mean Saints wouldn't be seeded in Play-Off Round. Edited 1 June, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 That thread has been deleted? There was some decent stuff on there, that's ridiculous. Yeah, I noticed the same over the weekend re 2nd round, 2nd leg date, so potentially less than a week's notice to sort out flights, hotels, visas being pretty much impossible. Stupid situation. Also worked out that even seeded, there is no way of knowing if we'll be home or away on either date until the actuall draw has been made, no "seeded teams away first" policy. It's been locked due to Ludwig calling hypo a c*nt repeatedly, I assume. We need a Europa League sticky to stop people asking the same questions over and over, it's LONG overdue. I saw the time you posted about the 2nd Q round second leg thing this morning, I realised it whilst drifting off to sleep last night, so you beat me by about 3 hours. Was anticipating the draw would be home/away drawn alongside the draw as I remembered that from the past draws, but hadn't checked, so thanks for that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Teams currently in the Champions League Play offs: Switzerland Basel Coeff. 84.875 Austria Red Bull Salzburg Coeff. 43.135 Czech Republic Viktoria Plzeň Coeff. 41.825 Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk Coeff. 86.033 Netherlands Ajax Coeff. 66.195 Russia CSKA Moscow Coeff. 55.599 Belgium Club Brugge Coeff. 41.440 France Monaco Coeff. 31.483 Switzerland Young Boys Coeff. 31.375 Czech Republic Sparta Prague Coeff. 30.825 Turkey Fenerbahçe Coeff. 30.020 Greece Panathinaikos Coeff. 19.880 Austria Rapid Wien Coeff. 15.635 Plus 17 from the below: Wales The New Saints Coeff. 5.575 Estonia Levadia Tallinn Coeff. 4.200 Armenia Pyunik Coeff. 3.550 Andorra FC Santa Coloma Coeff. 2.666 Northern Ireland Crusaders Coeff. 2.475 Faroe Islands B36 Tórshavn Coeff. 1.450 Gibraltar Lincoln Red Imps Coeff. 0.550 San Marino Folgore Coeff. 0.349 Romania Steaua București Coeff. 40.259 Scotland Celtic Coeff. 39.080 Cyprus APOEL Coeff. 35.460 Belarus BATE Borisov Coeff. 35.150 Bulgaria Ludogorets Razgrad Coeff. 25.350 Croatia Dinamo Zagreb Coeff. 24.700 Slovenia Maribor Coeff. 22.225 Israel Maccabi Tel Aviv Coeff. 18.200 Serbia Partizan Coeff. 14.775 Sweden Malmö FF Coeff. 12.545 Azerbaijan Qarabağ Coeff. 11.500 Finland HJK Coeff. 11.140 Norway Molde Coeff. 10.375 Denmark Midtjylland Coeff. 7.960 Hungary Videoton Coeff. 7.950 Albania Skënderbeu Korçë Coeff. 5.575 Bosnia and Herzegovina Sarajevo Coeff. 5.500 Latvia Ventspils Coeff. 5.350 Georgia (country) Dila Gori Coeff. 4.875 Slovakia Trenčín Coeff. 4.250 Lithuania Žalgiris Vilnius Coeff. 3.900 Kazakhstan Astana Coeff. 3.825 Moldova Milsami Orhei Coeff. 3.750 Montenegro Rudar Pljevlja Coeff. 3.375 Republic of Macedonia Vardar CC: 3.175 Iceland Stjarnan Coeff. 3.100 Luxembourg Fola Esch Coeff. 2.525 Republic of Ireland Dundalk Coeff. 2.150 Malta Hibernians Coeff. 1.591 Poland Champions of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa I don't know about you but I fancy Young Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 I don't know about you but I fancy Young Boys. Not sure you should be announcing that on a public forum tbh. Each to their own I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 If you could not use the term "Champions League Play Offs", that would be helpful. The teams you've listed are in the Champions League 3rd Qualfying Round - that's the round before the CL Play-Offs - no team in the CL Play-Off round will also be in the EL Play-Off round, but 15 teams from the CL 3Q will be in the EL Play-Off round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Oh, and Granty's told me he'll be stickying a Europa League post at some point soon to stop us having to repeat all this lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Teams currently in the Champions League Play offs: Switzerland Basel Coeff. 84.875 Austria Red Bull Salzburg Coeff. 43.135 Czech Republic Viktoria Plzeň Coeff. 41.825 Ukraine Shakhtar Donetsk Coeff. 86.033 Netherlands Ajax Coeff. 66.195 Russia CSKA Moscow Coeff. 55.599 Belgium Club Brugge Coeff. 41.440 France Monaco Coeff. 31.483 Switzerland Young Boys Coeff. 31.375 Czech Republic Sparta Prague Coeff. 30.825 Turkey Fenerbahçe Coeff. 30.020 Greece Panathinaikos Coeff. 19.880 Austria Rapid Wien Coeff. 15.635 Plus 17 from the below: Wales The New Saints Coeff. 5.575 Estonia Levadia Tallinn Coeff. 4.200 Armenia Pyunik Coeff. 3.550 Andorra FC Santa Coloma Coeff. 2.666 Northern Ireland Crusaders Coeff. 2.475 Faroe Islands B36 Tórshavn Coeff. 1.450 Gibraltar Lincoln Red Imps Coeff. 0.550 San Marino Folgore Coeff. 0.349 Romania Steaua București Coeff. 40.259 Scotland Celtic Coeff. 39.080 Cyprus APOEL Coeff. 35.460 Belarus BATE Borisov Coeff. 35.150 Bulgaria Ludogorets Razgrad Coeff. 25.350 Croatia Dinamo Zagreb Coeff. 24.700 Slovenia Maribor Coeff. 22.225 Israel Maccabi Tel Aviv Coeff. 18.200 Serbia Partizan Coeff. 14.775 Sweden Malmö FF Coeff. 12.545 Azerbaijan Qarabağ Coeff. 11.500 Finland HJK Coeff. 11.140 Norway Molde Coeff. 10.375 Denmark Midtjylland Coeff. 7.960 Hungary Videoton Coeff. 7.950 Albania Skënderbeu Korçë Coeff. 5.575 Bosnia and Herzegovina Sarajevo Coeff. 5.500 Latvia Ventspils Coeff. 5.350 Georgia (country) Dila Gori Coeff. 4.875 Slovakia Trenčín Coeff. 4.250 Lithuania Žalgiris Vilnius Coeff. 3.900 Kazakhstan Astana Coeff. 3.825 Moldova Milsami Orhei Coeff. 3.750 Montenegro Rudar Pljevlja Coeff. 3.375 Republic of Macedonia Vardar CC: 3.175 Iceland Stjarnan Coeff. 3.100 Luxembourg Fola Esch Coeff. 2.525 Republic of Ireland Dundalk Coeff. 2.150 Malta Hibernians Coeff. 1.591 Poland Champions of 2014–15 Ekstraklasa I don't know about you but I fancy Young Boys. So half those sides drop into our EL play off draw (if we get through our 3rd round qualifier)? We'd still be seeded above the majority of those teams that are likely to lose I reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 So half those sides drop into our EL play off draw (if we get through our 3rd round qualifier)? Think so, 15 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Mad, that as things currently stand, there are four different Kazakhstan teams that we could face for example, but we'd have a week to book the trip there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Anyone know a list from the internet that show what countries you need to apply for a Visa for in order to visit there? (One that isn't completed on the plane and automatically processed when you arrive!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Anyone know a list from the internet that show what countries you need to apply for a Visa for in order to visit there? (One that isn't completed on the plane and automatically processed when you arrive!). Russia and Belarus definitely, but I'll see if I can find a comprehensive list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 Anyone know a list from the internet that show what countries you need to apply for a Visa for in order to visit there? (One that isn't completed on the plane and automatically processed when you arrive!). It's Wiki and all a bit high level/general, but not a bad starter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_British_citizens#Visa_requirements_map Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 It's Wiki and all a bit high level/general, but not a bad starter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_British_citizens#Visa_requirements_map Great - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 San Marino or Gibraltar would be excellent. Not Israel, for the love of god... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 June, 2015 Share Posted 1 June, 2015 San Marino or Gibraltar would be excellent. Not Israel, for the love of god... No chance of either San Marino or Gibraltar sides getting through to play us I reckon. Israel would be brilliant, apart from the short notice making it so tough to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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