angelman Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/03/19/arsenal-close-in-on-shock-move-for-southampton-star-as-walcott-replacement/ So a new one to add to Morgan, Vic, Clyne, the loanees, JRod....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarrettIvo Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Utter garbage. Were they at all interested when he was carving it up for Salzburg? That would have been the time. Back before the internet papers didn't have so much space to fill. Seriously if not for porn I'd have disconnected a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny F Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Utter garbage. Were they at all interested when he was carving it up for Salzburg? That would have been the time. Back before the internet papers didn't have so much space to fill. Seriously if not for porn I'd have disconnected a long time ago. Brilliant.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Yes tabloid nonsense is my bet, though I've been wrong before. Besides, the basis of this rumour seems to be that Walcott = fast, and mane = fast, therefore .... mane for walcott? Mane clearly really enjoys playing under Koeman and looks up to him. Cannot see why he would move to Arsenal to a frontline he's bound to only get in to every 3-5 games or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Just the same I am worried a big Club is going to come in for Sadio. He really has a special factor about his game, and he's 22! We have to keep hold of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Would hope Saints would tell Arsene to go look elsewhere if he really is sniffing around Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Another 30 million please if you want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Utter garbage. Were they at all interested when he was carving it up for Salzburg? That would have been the time. Back before the internet papers didn't have so much space to fill. Seriously if not for porn I'd have disconnected a long time ago. Exactly my problem with all these pointless "news outlets" and blogs on the internet. Poorly written, bad grammar, no proofreading and generally just one spotty oik's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Another 30 million please if you want him. I'm not sure they would even let him go for that, and I don't think Arsenal could afford / would pay what Saints would want with four years on the contract. Non story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Exactly my problem with all these pointless "news outlets" and blogs on the internet. Poorly written, bad grammar, no proofreading and generally just one spotty oik's opinion. This is very true. I guess you write something controversial and it generates traffic to your site. But..... Didn't we go through this at the end of last season, dismiss most things, and most things came true? Not that I really mind so much as I am making a concerted effort to be more pragmatic about football and it's impact on my life. Could Arsenal be last years Liverpool and be singing MS, VW and SM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 I'd take Walcott though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 :lol: Gullible people once again taking the bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Walcott plus cash = deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 If we've learnt anything from last year anything can happen and probably will. My gut reaction is we will lose Alderweireld, Clyne, Schneiderlin and Wanyama, probably Rodriguez and have to resist overtures for Mane. I can also see a promising youngster like Reed doing a Chambers. The simple fact is that the 'Sky Six' do not want to become the 'Sky Seven'. Unsettling players initially and then dismembering the team if they can is probably the only way they can stop the rise of Saints at the expense of one, two or even three of them. I don't think there is any conspiracy going on as such, it just the other teams protecting their interests and at present they can afford to outbid us in terms of pay due the inequalities created by FFP. Our players as Champion League/Europa League contenders have an even greater stock than they did last season as upper mid-table players so hopefully transfer fees if they become relevant will be fixed accordingly. I am sure the club do have a plan to stop as much of this hemorrhage as they can, and a plan for the worst case scenario should it happen. We can only hope that with a manager hopefully staying rather than the situation last season there will be some degree of stability that wasn't there in 2014. Additionally these sort of things tend to be cyclical coinciding with World Cup and European Championship years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 This is very true. I guess you write something controversial and it generates traffic to your site. But..... Didn't we go through this at the end of last season, dismiss most things, and most things came true? Not that I really mind so much as I am making a concerted effort to be more pragmatic about football and it's impact on my life. Could Arsenal be last years Liverpool and be singing MS, VW and SM? Im making the call that they won't. The rumours about VW were flying when coquelin wasn't playing but now that he's regular FT and that Ramsey is playing much deeper in the games I've seen him, I think they will at most sign one new CM. Mane though? I mean he's the player that Arsenal don't need; a speedy winger....but Arsenal being Arsenal the signing they don't need is exactly the kind of signing they'd make. Mind you, should cazorla leave, giroud lose favour and walcott contract run out, they might need to fill some gaps up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 We will lose players in the summer, however it won't be like last year. For a start we have a stable management set-up, coaching set-up, and we're able to plan for next season. MP just strung us along for months and screwed up a lot of our plans I bet. But although it'll be sad at some points in the summer, I think we'll be excited by the replacements we manage to get. Come October next year, I'm sure we'll be missing the players we lose, but not in the way some expect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Yet more horsesh1t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 (edited) IF......there is any credibility to this at all (which I personally doubt)......would Mane want a move?... He seems to be happy here, although we know money talks .... IF... it were to come to pass.....would Theo want a move? .Why not ..doesn't his wife come from So'ton ?.....if he stays injury free ... then it would sound like a good arrangement. FEE?.. considering his "sale " to Arsenal was between £6 mill --£10 million, he's now 8 years older ..can he be worth more,?... IF...Arsenal are willing to part with him already... As for a fee for Mané ...the sky's the limit. As we paid a " reputed " £12 million....as he 's younger than Walcott...why not start discussions at £20 million...? Edited 19 March, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 (edited) http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/03/19/arsenal-close-in-on-shock-move-for-southampton-star-as-walcott-replacement/ So a new one to add to Morgan, Vic, Clyne, the loanees, JRod....... well in one way, we'll always have players left..the real Q. is....would they be good enough replacements?....... .... but judging by Les and Ronald's past delvings into the Black Box.. it'll be like waiting for a bus ..another one will turn up sooner or later. on a purely mercenary note; we know not all Academy lads will become first-teamers earning international caps, but there will be some gems there and so selling today's Crown Jewels won't stop us digging up new treasures...(excuse the literal comparisons ).in the coming years. ....and the incoming fees would give us " big income / bank balance " to help overcome the threatened restrictions of FFP. Whether we get Euro football next season .....or even the season after doesn't really matter so much....if you consider that a stable top half finish every season will ease the heart attack stats. at SMS....especially after 27 seasons of " just managing " to avoid relegation up until 2005. Edited 19 March, 2015 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Yes tabloid nonsense is my bet, though I've been wrong before. Besides, the basis of this rumour seems to be that Walcott = fast, and mane = fast, therefore .... mane for walcott? Mane clearly really enjoys playing under Koeman and looks up to him. Cannot see why he would move to Arsenal to a frontline he's bound to only get in to every 3-5 games or so. Are you David in Sweden posting under another name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Are you David in Sweden posting under another name? haha..nah ! ...e's nuffink to do wiv' me .....'aint 'e one of dem posh geezers....from Win-chester ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Are you David in Sweden posting under another name? Is this just because it says 'overseas' on my location? Unfortunately not no. I am in switzerland though....which is a bit like sweden I suppose....in that there's a lot of snow and my name isn't david....the similarities....end there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 haha..nah ! ...e's nuffink to do wiv' me .....'aint 'e one of dem posh geezers....from Win-chester ... I am actually from fife in scotland....would you believe it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 Walcott would have the advantage of being a club trained player for European purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 19 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 19 March, 2015 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/431678/Arsenal-plot-DOUBLE-Southampton-swoop-for-Morgan-Schneiderlin-and-Sadio-Mane Ahhh - we seem to have moved from the realms of internet blogs to red tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarniaSaint Posted 19 March, 2015 Share Posted 19 March, 2015 We will lose players in the summer, however it won't be like last year. For a start we have a stable management set-up, coaching set-up, and we're able to plan for next season. MP just strung us along for months and screwed up a lot of our plans I bet. But although it'll be sad at some points in the summer, I think we'll be excited by the replacements we manage to get. Come October next year, I'm sure we'll be missing the players we lose, but not in the way some expect. This^^^ and the FFP is just another UEFA joke to protect some clubs at the expense of the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Right Wenger if you are willing to go for player plus cash Mane = Walcott + chamberlain + chambers + £££££££s Surely they owe sell on & other add ons for aoc & cc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 We will lose players in the summer, however it won't be like last year. For a start we have a stable management set-up, coaching set-up, and we're able to plan for next season. MP just strung us along for months and screwed up a lot of our plans I bet. But although it'll be sad at some points in the summer, I think we'll be excited by the replacements we manage to get. Come October next year, I'm sure we'll be missing the players we lose, but not in the way some expect. True, after last season I'm sure Les Reed and co have everything planned out and have taken into consideration. Everyone should be prepared this season, so there shouldn't be a meltdown on here like there was last summer. I think Morgan, Clyne and Toby will certainly leave, but wouldn't be so sure about the others. Either way, we will need to bring in another 6 or 7 players if we are to cope with the demands of the PL and the Europa league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Another way to look at it is any player considering leaving will see that, as a club, we coped well with the apparent upheaval therefore they won't feel as guilty about going - if that is ever a consideration of course. I also don't think we should under-estimate the pull of playing for saints. Think back to when we got promoted, how much more attractive a proposition are we now? Even going back a year, we've improved and raised our stock. As a player you will see how we support and nurture talent, plus the team spirit is strong and as a club we have a strong individual identity - the opportunity to play for a club like ours and challenge or disrupt the established clubs will be a big motivator to some people. On top of all this we have some of the best facilities and a superb high-profile manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Agree that Saints is not an unattractive club to play for. OK many will see it as a stepping stone but that's life. We pay a decent wage (I would have thought) and seem to know what direction we want to go in. I do sometimes wonder though, about players and their wages. Say we pay £40k a week, that's a pretty good wage and I doubt any/many on this forum would turn that down. Sure, moving to a bigger club will pay more, but is that really important if you are already earning so much? I suppose it comes back (slightly) to MLT who stayed here because of the area, closeness to family etc, when he could have moved elsewhere for a higher wage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Agree that Saints is not an unattractive club to play for. OK many will see it as a stepping stone but that's life. We pay a decent wage (I would have thought) and seem to know what direction we want to go in. I do sometimes wonder though, about players and their wages. Say we pay £40k a week, that's a pretty good wage and I doubt any/many on this forum would turn that down. Sure, moving to a bigger club will pay more, but is that really important if you are already earning so much? I suppose it comes back (slightly) to MLT who stayed here because of the area, closeness to family etc, when he could have moved elsewhere for a higher wage. Becoming rich doesn't stop you wanting more. How many rich people do you know of that turn their back on more money despite having an amazing life? I would say it's minimal compared to those who continue to want to accumulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ampersound Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 I'm not particularly worried this time around as I think we can get in decent replacements. We are the premier leagues athletico Madrid, sell the best players every year for tons of cash and get in decent replacements Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Spurs also want Morgan, Toby and JRod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 http://www.caughtoffside.com/2015/03/19/arsenal-close-in-on-shock-move-for-southampton-star-as-walcott-replacement/ So a new one to add to Morgan, Vic, Clyne, the loanees, JRod....... Come off it, you've been around here long enough not to posit such a daft question. Don't worry, be happy, it's only football and they'll all be gone in 7 years but you'll still be here no doubt worrying about the same thing then. Trust in Ronald! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Looks like both Man City and Man Utd will have a fairly big clear out of players this summer so I expect most of the heat on our players to come from that direction. No English clubs in the last 8 of Europe isn't great for us as I imagine all the big clubs will be looking to improve a lot and with our performance this year challenging top 4 there is even more focus on our players. Clyne and Morgan are the most likely to go, Jay Rod if he doesn't sign, I think we stand a fair chance of recruiting Toby based on his comments. I can't see the club agreeing on Wanyama going if Morgan goes, not without a massive fight. Nor Mane after just one season. I doubt we have any Lovren types in the camp at the moment, could be wrong but I doubt many players will agitate for a move. If we could just sneak that 4th I doubt we'd loose anyone. Stable manager though who will attract players to him will help massively not to mention our continued improvement and likely europa league spot together with our so far very good long term planning and scouting should mean that we can attract decent quality replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Spurs also want Morgan, Toby and JRod. I want a Ferrari and a Sunseeker and a private island retreate in the Pacific, no harm in baying for the moon as long as your feet are standing firmly on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Spurs also want Morgan, Toby and JRod. I want Messi Ronaldo and Bale but I am not going to have my wishes granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Agree that Saints is not an unattractive club to play for. OK many will see it as a stepping stone but that's life. We pay a decent wage (I would have thought) and seem to know what direction we want to go in. I do sometimes wonder though, about players and their wages. Say we pay £40k a week, that's a pretty good wage and I doubt any/many on this forum would turn that down. Sure, moving to a bigger club will pay more, but is that really important if you are already earning so much? I suppose it comes back (slightly) to MLT who stayed here because of the area, closeness to family etc, when he could have moved elsewhere for a higher wage. MLT is a one-off, we won't find another player like him. Plus, wasn't his family very wealthy before he even started playing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 this thread gets funnier all the time. So here's another idea..... ..why don't the "big clubs" who are so dependent on signing our players..leave them to play Saints' games at SMS.. and let their own U21 / B teams play at home. At this rate-by... next summer, they'll be an entire" former Saints Academy" squad spread around other clubs in the Prem. ...and we'll be about £200 million richer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLiam Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 What's next? Mayuka to Chelsea? Do the papers thrive off taking a player and a club out of a hat, ta-da, transfer rumour created! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Is this just because it says 'overseas' on my location? Unfortunately not no. I am in switzerland though....which is a bit like sweden I suppose....in that there's a lot of snow and my name isn't david....the similarities....end there.... It was simply that you were bolding your..... words.... like our "Swedonian" correspondent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 It was simply that you were bolding your..... words.... like our "Swedonian" correspondent! Swedish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 20 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Come off it, you've been around here long enough not to posit such a daft question. Don't worry, be happy, it's only football and they'll all be gone in 7 years but you'll still be here no doubt worrying about the same thing then. Trust in Ronald! You know CW, I am increasingly pragmatic about football and also how it affects my life. With the latter, it is entertainment which either leaves me elated or ****ed off (and various stages in between) and that is all. My well being and livelihood are not dependent on how we perform on the pitch nor who is employed by the club. The post/question was very much tongue in cheek. I look at football and all that is wrong with it and find it faintly amusing that so many people seem oblivious to it. I'm not referring to anyone on here, as I think that most are well aware of some/many of the problems that there are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Swedish? FOR INFO: I'm actually (born) Sotonian, I've just lived here for half of my lifetime....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 20 March, 2015 Share Posted 20 March, 2015 Plus, wasn't his family very wealthy before he even started playing? Nope, comfortable, well known but not wealthy. I was on a sailing holiday years ago and in a pub in Guernsey: got chatting to a local who told me that all the family were good at sport: natural eye/hand/foot co-ordination. MLT could have earned more, but he never strikes me as disatisfied with his financial lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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