Batman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 As close to. ''Morgan set for Utd medical'' ''Transfer to be done this week'' ''Fee agreed between clubs'' This part of the transfer window is the most tedious, as there's very little else going on, this gets all the attention and every single bit of info that is leaked is magnified. Bring on August. And they have been saying Toby is set for Spurs have they not? Now saying done deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 And they have been saying Toby is set for Spurs have they not? Now saying done deal. Link to where it says done deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 (edited) Link to where it says done deal? Just going off what someone posted on here. Did not mean it as fact. Just says atletico agree £11.5m fee with Spurs and we will have to match it: be criminal if we wouldn't I am still pretty confident we will get him. Edited 5 July, 2015 by Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 what an ingenious scheme. I think i've seen this done before Is that you pap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Worrying now. Last summer we only lost one primary defender. This summer we are about to lose 2 and our principle defensive midfielder. BOTH TO RIVALS. That said- Toby's not gone yet! I hope we have a plan. Shame we haven't yet reached the boardroom mentality of buying who we want first then selling on. But we shall see what happens. At the moment it's feeling like last summer again. One bad news story after another. Still, keep the faith. After getting lucky last summer I am prepared to give Ralf and Les the benefit of the doubt. After all you create your own luck... Let's see what we can bring in. COYRs! (at least we have a real kit this season!) Jesus wept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Is that you pap? Just looked at his posts and I reckon it is him. Busted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Athletico would me mad to accept Spurs bid until we have played our hand. Exactly. They know we're interested so they're not just going to accept Spurs bid before we have tried to negotiate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Exactly. They know we're interested so they're not just going to accept Spurs bid before we have tried to negotiate. I'd be surprised if we don't value him at £11.5m plus we still have £1.5m bargaining chip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 I think it all depends on where Toby wants to go - and who will pay him what. Doesn't his mate play CB for Spuds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Just looked at his posts and I reckon it is him. Busted. Very similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 So around £11.4m take off the £1.5 they paid us and we pay £9.9m Get it done The euro was 11% stronger this time last year, €1.26 as opposed €1.40 and this can often lead to people upping prices (at least in my line of things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Jesus h Christ on a crutch the bed wetting is epic on Twitter. Which part of 'Southampton FC don't talk about transfer business' do people not understand? Other clubs can say what they like in the media, Saints just get on with it and won't talk no matter how many times they are asked. Don't believe ANYTHING until the player is at someone's ground holding up their shirt. Why waste your energy on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 you just know that tomorrow afternoon, 'noises' will be made or an article will appear that 'Saints make an 11th hour bid to steal Alderweireld' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Here's my theory; FMH (From My Head), not ITK. - Athleti know they have a player worth than the purchase price. - The Tottenham Monk equivalent says they are not in for Toby (and they're not exactly short in CM so you can see why). - Daniel Levy is playing the stooge for Athleti so they can bid up their price (probably as part of Spur's interest in the Athleti DM Suarez). It would be interesting to see if Spurs / AM have previous dealing history. - It's a win for Athleti (they get more cash), it's a win for Spurs (they deprive a rival of X million).... sadly a loss for us (but probably better reflects TA's market value). A confident poker player would say 'sod it' and call the bluff and stiff both of them..... The question is: Are you feeling lucky, Monk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 (edited) If we've let Toby slip through our fingers for the amount of money being discussed in the media, I will start to wonder about our board again. Maybe they've got a bit overconfident. Edited 5 July, 2015 by alpine_saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 If we've let Toby slip through our fingers for the amount of money being discussed in the media, I will start to wonder about our board again. Maybe they've got a bit overconfident. Okay... lets try to pick this apart... I will start to wonder about our board again. Wonder what about the board? Did last summer not show to you they know what they are doing? Maybe they've got a bit overconfident. Over confident about what? If we've let Toby slip through our fingers for the amount of money being discussed in the media. Even if we have an offer accepted, it is then for the player to decide and Spurs can offer higher wages than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Reading the runes it doesn't look that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Outbidding Spurs isn't really in our game plan though. From what I have observed, Southampton prefer to buy players that are relatively unknown. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that we aren't buying Toby but have a different player lined up. Maybe one who isn't quite as good, but costs a third of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Okay... lets try to pick this apart... Wonder what about the board? Did last summer not show to you they know what they are doing? Over confident about what? Even if we have an offer accepted, it is then for the player to decide and Spurs can offer higher wages than us. You've become a caracature of yourself. Not worth the effort to respond to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 You've become a caracature of yourself. Not worth the effort to respond to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 If we've let Toby slip through our fingers for the amount of money being discussed in the media, I will start to wonder about our board again. Maybe they've got a bit overconfident. Your son must find it incredibly easy to hack into that laptop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 You've become a caracature of yourself. Not worth the effort to respond to you. Arf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 This time last year I'd never even heard of Toby Alderweireld, and could much less say his name. I'm not in the "he's impossible to replace camp" If we get him great, consistency is good. If not, I'm sure we'll sign someone equally as good that I've not heard of up to that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 This time last year I'd never even heard of Toby Alderweireld, and could much less say his name. I'm not in the "he's impossible to replace camp" If we get him great, consistency is good. If not, I'm sure we'll sign someone equally as good that I've not heard of up to that point. You may not have heard of him but that doesn't mean that he was an unknown quanity. If we don't sign him, I'd be delighted if we signed a player you never heard of who has been part of the current 2nd ranked National team in the World for a long time and plays for the third most successful team in Spain and played against Real Madrid in the Champions League final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nta786 Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 All this waiting is just annoying now ngl- want a decision to be made now- all this waiting about whats gonna happen ffs- lets just get put out of our misery and hope les and scouts have someone just as better lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 All this waiting is just annoying now ngl- want a decision to be made now- all this waiting about whats gonna happen ffs- lets just get put out of our misery and hope les and scouts have someone just as better lined up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 You may not have heard of him but that doesn't mean that he was an unknown quanity. If we don't sign him, I'd be delighted if we signed a player you never heard of who has been part of the current 2nd ranked National team in the World for a long time and plays for the third most successful team in Spain and played against Real Madrid in the Champions League final. I guess you already had him marked out as influential Centre Back material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 I guess you already had him marked out as influential Centre Back material. Pretty obvious he was a very good player. Probably nobody knew exactly how good he would be, but when we signed him it was clear he would be a very key part of the team. It isnt as easy as people seem to think to keep signing high quality replacements and also improve areas of the squad that were weak last season. Backup GK is still woeful, RB cover non existent etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Not that it makes a difference but Toby is in Belgium at the moment, at a Music festival. Source: His instagram. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Sky and Mail saying deal done with Spurs No they aren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Good, and as expected... @svenclaes: No (Saints are not out of the race). I believe that #SaintsFC will match the offer from Spurs. #THFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 I think the lack of rumors about us being linked with other centre backs (compared to midfielders) shows that were pretty confident in getting Toby (I hope) Also had we of been told at the end of the season Toby wouldn't be signing permanently we'd of all been ok with that but the fact that we've been told we could get him add to the reasonably low transfer fee being mooted we're all getting edgy ! As they say it's the hope that kills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roboze Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Spurs can offer what ever they like, but if Toby dosen't want to go there it won't matter, last i heard he said he wanted to stay at Saints, Spurs wouldn't be a step up in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Not sure where anyone has got the idea that Toby doesn't want to join Spurs from? He has never said that. http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/tottenham-to-sign-player-at-any-cost-should-be-done-within-days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Those who go on about bed wetting all the time. Is this a personal issue from childhood? Quite possibly. It is a relatively common phenomenon amongst young boys and girls and is usually associated with trauma, fear or simply the stress of growing up. For grown adults, the situation is probably more complex..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 SPretty obvious he was a very good player. Probably nobody knew exactly how good he would be, but when we signed him it was clear he would be a very key part of the team. It wasnt clear at all that the Belgium Team right back and reserve CB for Atletico who came on as an 83rd minute substitute for right back Fillipe Luis in the CL Final would go in to become an influential Centre Back for us. No more than it was obvious that Ryan Betrand would end up being voted in the PFA team of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 It was clear he was a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 We'll just have to wait and see, as most on this very forum seem convinced that we will be preferred to Spurs at the end of the day I am not inquiet. However red and white striped specs are dangerous things in the wrong hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 (edited) It would be one hell of a sign of progress if we can tempt a player to come here over Spurs,even considering the relationship that already exists. Fingers crossed. Edited 5 July, 2015 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 We'll just have to wait and see, as most on this very forum seem convinced that we will be preferred to Spurs at the end of the day I am not inquiet. However red and white striped specs are dangerous things in the wrong hands. He said he is/was happy at Saints. He never said he would prefer us to Spurs or vice versa (at least not publically). He may very well be happy to join either club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 We'll just have to wait and see, as most on this very forum seem convinced that we will be preferred to Spurs at the end of the day I am not inquiet. However red and white striped specs are dangerous things in the wrong hands. I'm sure if everything on offer to Toby, wages, bonuses etc, were all equal between saints and spurs he'll join us but it's not going to be equal and he'll go where there's more money on offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 He said he is/was happy at Saints. He never said he would prefer us to Spurs or vice versa (at least not publically). He may very well be happy to join either club. Which seems pretty obvious to most but not to some hence the r+w specs epithet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 If we've let Toby slip through our fingers for the amount of money being discussed in the media, I will start to wonder about our board again. Maybe they've got a bit overconfident. Oh come on! Just because he said he would 'like to stay at Southampton' doesn't mean he would ignore spuds waving 100k pw at him. We cannot and should not be matching this for a good defender who will likely play only 2/3 of a season due to his dodgy hamstrings (wonder how he will get on with potch's high intensity training?). If we don't get him I'll be disappointed, but I believe the club are doing all they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Maybe Spurs won't be offering him £100k a week. He just might want to go there as they are bigger and better than us. Also, London helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 I'm sure if everything on offer to Toby, wages, bonuses etc, were all equal between saints and spurs he'll join us but it's not going to be equal and he'll go where there's more money on offer. I think you are quite right Spurs will probably offering more money. Although he was great for us he did have injury problems so I will not be too upset if he goes to Spurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 He just might want to go there as they are bigger and better than us. You are funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 All getting a bit tasty. Sky sources saying that Saints think they have a contract with AM to purchase Toby and that if they sell to Spurs or anyone else Saints will take legal action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozz Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 Another potential twist: SSN have just done a brief Alderweireld bit in their transfer update saying that Saints "believe they have a contract with Atletico Madrid for the defender, expect a permanent transfer to take place after he spent last season on loan at St Mary's and if the Spanish club do a deal its Tottenham (or anyone else) Southampton will consider legal action against Atletico." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 There are some dirty tricks at work here, that's for sure. Welcome to the world of football transfers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 5 July, 2015 Share Posted 5 July, 2015 All getting a bit tasty. Sky sources saying that Saints think they have a contract with AM to purchase Toby and that if they sell to Spurs or anyone else Saints will take legal action. Maybe why there's so little noise coming from saints , Quietly confident? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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