SNSUN Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Apparently Toby got married last Friday...did we know that ? Wonder if any of our other lads went to the ceremony. That's perhaps why he needs the money Spurs can offer him - he's married!
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 How reliable would you say the person is? He's been right before, been wrong before. But he has been pretty good recently. I've been told that he loves it here, and his wife does as well. Thought I'd share what I've been told, but don't hang me if he goes elsewhere. For what it's worth, I reckon there's a decent chance he's staying.
brett24 Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 I think he will stay if we are able to match Spurs offer.
John B Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 if we lose Toby to spurs is just another reminder on how we will never really be a top 4/6 club long term. Sure, we will have good seasons but we will constantly lose our best to these sort of sides. that includes managers - Poch being a prime example. not with the ground at 32k and not really getting more than that consistantly I fully expect us to drop a few places down the league anyway (if we get into the group stages of the EL) then again, should not be a surprise, didn't les say we finance for a top 10 finish? I agree we are never going to be a regular top 6 team but definitely a top ten team teams like Man U Man C Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea have large fan bases and stadia and have a history over my lifetime of winning Trophies not only domestic but also European
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 I agree we are never going to be a regular top 6 team but definitely a top ten team teams like Man U Man C Liverpool Arsenal Chelsea have large fan bases and stadia and have a history over my lifetime of winning Trophies not only domestic but also European Burnley and Preston were once among the top sides in the country. That is how I see Liverpool now. Can't see them finishing top 4 for a long time. Certainly not with the arrogant legend in his own opinion manager they currently have.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 (edited) Burnley and Preston were once among the top sides in the country. That is how I see Liverpool now. Can't see them finishing top 4 for a long time. They finished 2nd a mere two years ago. Edited 25 June, 2015 by Matthew Le God
Appy Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 They finished 2nd a mere two years ago. 1 year ago. HTH.
Graffito Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Burnley and Preston were once among the top sides in the country. That is how I see Liverpool now. Can't see them finishing top 4 for a long time. Certainly not with the arrogant legend in his own opinion manager they currently have. Sorry Wade but Liverpool have nothing in common with Burnley and Preston.
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 They finished 2nd a mere two years ago. Yep, best chance they'll have in a generation to win the league. They lose Suarez, let Rogers buy crap, and look where they are now. No chance if finishing higher than Chelsea, City, Arsenal or Man Utd.
Matthew Le God Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 1 year ago. HTH. Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Sorry Wade but Liverpool have nothing in common with Burnley and Preston. No, but my point was that top teams can slide into obscurity. Just because Liverpool have an illustrious history, it means jack sh*te for their future. My judgement is slightly clouded by my blind hatred for them.
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - fixtures announced, transfer begun (we are in this season) 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd For goodness sake.
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Anyway, enough about Liverpool. I apologise for taking this thread on Toby way off topic. I reckon he'll sign.
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Sorry Wade but Liverpool have nothing in common with Burnley and Preston. They're all in Lancashire.
Graffito Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 They're all in Lancashire. Portsmouth's in Hampshire.
CB Fry Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd You couldn't make it up.
whelk Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd Less than 14 months ago so yeah 2 years. Did I read somewhere that you teach FFS?
John B Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Burnley and Preston were once among the top sides in the country. That is how I see Liverpool now. Can't see them finishing top 4 for a long time. Certainly not with the arrogant legend in his own opinion manager they currently have. Of course you are right but since the 1960s when the maximum wage was abandoned large city Clubs have had an unfair advantage and with the PL and CL this unfortunately is going to continue
St Lej Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd Best post ever. Comedy gold! Why not just admit you meant 2 SEASONS ago rather than the pedantic guff posted above?
CB Fry Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Best post ever. Comedy gold! Why not just admit you meant 2 SEASONS ago rather than the pedantic guff posted above? In fairness no one normal thinks the season that finished in May 2014 is "two seasons" ago. If this was an even numbered year we'd still be in World Cup/Euros time. No one's even played a bloody friendly.
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 If they finished 2nd 2 years ago, 6th 1 year ago, then where did they finish this year?
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Why can't MLG just ever admit he was wrong? Why does he have to try and be such a pedantic clever git to try and justify his mistakes? Really weird.
Trout-Tickler Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd You forgot to underline and put the most important info in bold.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 He just meant season instead of year. Should be able to admit that though.
CB Fry Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 He just meant season instead of year. Should be able to admit that though. The fact he decided to correct someone else for saying Liverpool had finished second last year is the main issue. Didn't need correcting. Anyway, MLG always good value. No harm done.
Wes Tender Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Burnley and Preston were once among the top sides in the country. That is how I see Liverpool now. Can't see them finishing top 4 for a long time. Certainly not with the arrogant legend in his own opinion manager they currently have. I can have some sympathy with this opinion at my age. Here is the table when I was about 10. Liverpool are third in the second division and we go up as champions of the third division. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1959%E2%80%9360_in_English_football Most on here will never have known Liverpool as anything but a top team apart from us wrinklies. It is interesting to read those tables and see how the hierarchy has changed since then. Like you, I can't see them getting into the top four under Rodgers, unless that new striker they bought is as good as Suarez. But then again, perhaps we might find that one or more of Roriguez, Mane or Pelle hit their stride too.
Alain Perrin Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Football years... 2015/16 - pre-season training begun for some clubs 2014/15 - 6th 2013/14 - 2nd Funny. I read this with the author off of the top of the screen.... "that's a bit of a ***tty comment I thought, bet it's MLG...." Et voila.
percy windham Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Why can't MLG just ever admit he was wrong? Why does he have to try and be such a pedantic clever git to try and justify his mistakes? Really weird. Just move on, you boring little bellend. Everyone knew what he meant, why does it matter? What's really weird is when lots of grown men gang up on him, all thinking they're hilarious. This sometimes happens even when he's right. That's proper oddball behaviour.
Appy Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Just move on, you boring little bellend. Everyone knew what he meant, why does it matter? What's really weird is when lots of grown men gang up on him, all thinking they're hilarious. This sometimes happens even when he's right. That's proper oddball behaviour. Isn't that what you're doing?
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Just move on, you boring little bellend. Everyone knew what he meant, why does it matter? What's really weird is when lots of grown men gang up on him, all thinking they're hilarious. This sometimes happens even when he's right. That's proper oddball behaviour. Ok.
percy windham Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Isn't that what you're doing? Don't quite understand that, perhaps you'd like to go away and have a little think, then return with a coherent and suitable response.
St_Tel49 Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 They finished 2nd a mere two years ago. As soon as Suarez went they were shown to be top 6 at best
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Apparently Toby is seriously thinking over the move to Spurs because they've been keeping their thread on topic. Who'd a thought that would've been the deal breaker?
stevewanyamasfcs Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Just move on, you boring little bellend. Everyone knew what he meant, why does it matter? What's really weird is when lots of grown men gang up on him, all thinking they're hilarious. This sometimes happens even when he's right. That's proper oddball behaviour. Oddball.
richard Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Apparently Toby is seriously thinking over the move to Spurs because they've been keeping their thread on topic. Who'd a thought that would've been the deal breaker? Haha
simo Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Has there been any rumours of other centre backs we're looking at?
beavis17 Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Has there been any rumours of other centre backs we're looking at? http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/06/25/agent-of-reported-celtic-southampton-target-zouhair-feddal-confi/?
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Apparently Toby is seriously thinking over the move to Spurs because they've been keeping their thread on topic. Who'd a thought that would've been the deal breaker? I feel really bad now.
LostBoys Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 I am surprised Toby would go to Spurs but it is Spurs doing the reporting of this. I agree with the Club saying nothing until a deal is done but I am getting fed up with this deluge of crap from the papers about our players leaving - probably becuase it is very likely true
S-Clarke Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 I am surprised Toby would go to Spurs but it is Spurs doing the reporting of this. I agree with the Club saying nothing until a deal is done but I am getting fed up with this deluge of crap from the papers about our players leaving - probably becuase it is very likely true Let the media play the crap games. The club know exactly what they're doing. We're in as good a position as we ever have been in terms of the quality we can attract, Cedric being an example of a very sought after player. Personally, what happens - happens. After last summer, I think the club deserve our trust. Whilst we were all panicking, the club clearly weren't and they had a plan. It's safe to say they have another plan this year. It already feels a lot calmer this year, a lot more settled. I think Clyne and Morgan have been the worst keeps secrets for months, I think they've both been off. So if we can get that done, get the £40m or so in and then go and secure our big targets.
whelk Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Just move on, you boring little bellend. Everyone knew what he meant, why does it matter? What's really weird is when lots of grown men gang up on him, all thinking they're hilarious. This sometimes happens even when he's right. That's proper oddball behaviour. Who you calling a grown man fcko?
badgerx16 Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Portsmouth's in Hampshire. Why do you think I left ?
tajjuk Posted 25 June, 2015 Posted 25 June, 2015 Not Spurs, Chelsea or someone yeh fine but Spurs? meh Europa league football and trying to challenge four 4th which is exactly what Saints are trying to do/be. Go up not across.
Weston Saint Posted 26 June, 2015 Posted 26 June, 2015 Many have said it before and I am not going to apologise for saying it again, we are not a big club. Manchester Utd, City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, and Spurs are the big 6. They are constantly in that group that others like us strive to break but we have not yet! We have a rich owner but she is astute and wants the club to be self financing. I agree and it is so much more satisfying to see we are genuine challengers with that philosophy We do not have the income streams to be able to pay the top players the money they desire. The top 6 do. We have to prove ourselves over a longer period of time to persuade players who want regular European football that we can constantly deliver. This coming season will be the start of that process but the players who are moving on are impatient to have that reassurance. The top 6 sides, through their track record and money, can give that now. We are replenishing with good players (excluding our Academy for the purposes of this discussion) so other team supporters may look at us with anger or envy just as we are doing with the top 6. We have not yet arrived but the top 6 know we are breathing down their necks and our reputation is building. We need to have a similar season in 2015/16 to keep the pressure on the other 6 and do well in the Europa Cup to enhance our reputation further afield. In the meantime we will have to accept we will lose our best and ambitious players each year.
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