Yuki Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 Chelsea have been pretty poor for months. They'll seriously look to bounce back against us though. No, the Premier League isn't poor, if anything the opposite to be honest. Sorry. I am not understanding. The EPL isn't poor, but Chelsea have been for months and yet are still the best team in it? I simply disagree with your logic, or lack of. What on earth do you mean? Yuki.
Saint_clark Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 Surely this was the perfect result for us? Going to injury time, yes. Chelsea losing, could go either way.
Sour Mash Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 Sorry. I am not understanding. The EPL isn't poor, but Chelsea have been for months and yet are still the best team in it? I simply disagree with your logic, or lack of. What on earth do you mean? Yuki. Shut up Glasgow you c**t
Saint Charlie Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 If they had gone to ET and won tamely it would have been better IMO. A loss will refocus them for the league and Mourinho will give them a kick up the arse. First goal would be interesting like last year, but hard not to see them scoring at least one so we will need to be miles sharper than of late to have any chance.
Wiggles31 Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 Going to injury time, yes. Chelsea losing, could go either way. Agreed but that was pretty horrific for Chelsea. They are there for the taking. Definitely not the same team of the start of the season. A perfect underdogs game if we play our cards right. We've had two weeks preparation and a nice trip to Switzerland and they've just had a footballing nightmare in 120 minutes.
nta786 Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 No, the Premier League isn't poor, if anything the opposite to be honest. In comparison to other leagues, lets face it, the Prem is bog standard- people say Germany is a one team league, and whilst Bayern are leading the league by 9 points, so will Chelsea with 8? Fiorentina beat Spurs, Liverpool had a shocker, Arsenal lost 3-1 to Monaco, Man City lost to Barca... I could go on.. sure you could argue some of these might be one off results, but in reality, looking at our European results tell us how weak our top teams are. What the Prem does have going for it is that generally teams down the bottom end are stronger, which overall creates a stronger, more competitive league-I'm sure a team that's 18th in England could beat a team 18th in Germany/Spain and same so on... It's our 'top teams' in comparison with the elites of the other league where we fail...
Wiggles31 Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 (edited) In comparison to other leagues, lets face it, the Prem is bog standard- people say Germany is a one team league, and whilst Bayern are leading the league by 9 points, so will Chelsea with 8? Fiorentina beat Spurs, Liverpool had a shocker, Arsenal lost 3-1 to Monaco, Man City lost to Barca... I could go on.. sure you could argue some of these might be one off results, but in reality, looking at our European results tell us how weak our top teams are. What the Prem does have going for it is that generally teams down the bottom end are stronger, which overall creates a stronger, more competitive league-I'm sure a team that's 18th in England could beat a team 18th in Germany/Spain and same so on... It's our 'top teams' in comparison with the elites of the other league where we fail... And thank the Lord we don't have boring league like them. Championship too that is a pretty incredible league! Edited 12 March, 2015 by Wiggles31
Sour Mash Posted 11 March, 2015 Posted 11 March, 2015 In comparison to other leagues, lets face it, the Prem is bog standard- people say Germany is a one team league, and whilst Bayern are leading the league by 9 points, so will Chelsea with 8? Fiorentina beat Spurs, Liverpool had a shocker, Arsenal lost 3-1 to Monaco, Man City lost to Barca... I could go on.. sure you could argue some of these might be one off results, but in reality, looking at our European results tell us how weak our top teams are. What the Prem does have going for it is that generally teams down the bottom end are stronger, which overall creates a stronger, more competitive league-I'm sure a team that's 18th in England could beat a team 18th in Germany/Spain and same so on... It's our 'top teams' in comparison with the elites of the other league where we fail... No, it's much better than "bog standard", unless you're a complete idiot.
whelk Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 PL is v entertaining but everything points to standard dropping off. Saints competing at the top as one indicator. Europe coefficient is tumbling and at this rate we will only get 3 places soon.. Worse Utd team for years and they are still in top 4.. And to think some jokers were calling this Chelsea side the best teh PL has ever seen a few months ago.. Weird as clearly awash with money and players are of high calibre but performances against Europe's equivalents is embarrassing.. Could just be Everton in QFs.
Batman Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 (edited) I think Chelsea went out because of the tactics rather than the quality. Jose did what he usually does in Europe. Played spoiling tactics and kept it tight. Teams are now more attacking home and away in Europe. It seems every big game Chelsea are in, they shut up shop, hound the ref and play dirty. Yet their manager will turn up on sky sports moaning when other sides do it to him Had Chelsea been more attacking, I feel they would have won. They certainly have the players Edited 12 March, 2015 by Batman
Special K Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Best time to play them, i reckon. The players looked tired last night, some are struggling with form, they have lost at home against 10 men and they may try too hard on Sunday. As long as we are calm and the ref is strong with their childish antics, then we can get a result on Sunday.
david in sweden Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 (edited) Best time to play them, i reckon. The players looked tired last night, some are struggling with form, they have lost at home against 10 men and they may try too hard on Sunday. As long as we are calm and the ref is strong with their childish antics, then we can get a result on Sunday. more of less my feelings, too. Chelsea had the ref. on their side many times, but still looked poor, although Hazard is in a class of his own compared to the rest. PSG looked like they had 11 men to Chelsea's 10...always looked like they wanted to win more, They were quicker on the ball, and their strikers were incredible. You saw the " angry side " of Zlatan, which is the cynical attitude he tends to take when things don't go his way, but even without him PSG were superior. I'm sure RK noted that both PSG goals came from poorly-defended corners, let's hope we can turn that to our advantage on Sunday. Mourinho is sure to be more direct in the dressing room than he was in his tame apology interview, it'll be interesting to see the effect it has on his team. Edited 12 March, 2015 by david in sweden
Cabrone Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Could possibly be a good time to play them if this is the start of a mini wobble for them, can't really see us getting anything there but if we do it's going to be an ultra defensive performance with a smash n grab at the other end. If we were to get something could act as a springboard for our own ambitions.
iansums Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Souness was MOM for me. Great to hear someone say it how it is, the way the Chelsea players behaved was an embarrassment to Football. All this play-acting and berating of the referee has to stop.
simo Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Why do we get this each season? It's like people are desperate for the chance to have a go at their own league. There are some great teams around Europe and it's a cup competition, these things happen. Chelsea are clearly a very good side, and they didn't even lose to PSG they drew twice. How does that make the Premier league rubbish? Arsenal did what they do sometimes and fcked up. Man City seem to have a mental block about it, but English sides have done fine over the years, it's not like they're all going stuffed every year and no Premier League sides have ever won it. Barca, Madrid, PSG and Bayern are always going to be capable of beating anyone. Chelsea or Man City could beat them on their day, but in cup football you never know do you. I seem to remember Costa and Courtois getting to the final last season, and a weaker Chelsea being in the semi final. So has the Premier League become rubbish in the last 9 months? Madrid got turned over the other night but you don't see anyone saying how bad the Spanish league is !
Saint Garrett Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Madrid got turned over the other night but you don't see anyone saying how bad the Spanish league is ! No but all their fans were booing them despite them going through and are protesting about getting Ancellotti out!
sadoldgit Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Felt sorry for Ibrahimovic last night. Don't think he deserved a red card but very happy with the result. Hopefully we can add to their misery!
david in sweden Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Koeman in interview......were there any; interesting / controversial / humourous comments ?.........
Window Cleaner Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 I think Chelsea went out because of the tactics rather than the quality. Jose did what he usually does in Europe. Played spoiling tactics and kept it tight. Teams are now more attacking home and away in Europe. It seems every big game Chelsea are in, they shut up shop, hound the ref and play dirty. Yet their manager will turn up on sky sports moaning when other sides do it to him Had Chelsea been more attacking, I feel they would have won. They certainly have the players Chelsea try to respect FFP, PSG....don't even know what it means. Chelsea have nowhere near the quality of players that PSG do....Qatar FC are in football for 1 thing only, winning the CL at any price, if they lost last night Blanc was sacked.
sandwichsaint Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Why do we get this each season? It's like people are desperate for the chance to have a go at their own league. There are some great teams around Europe and it's a cup competition, these things happen. Chelsea are clearly a very good side, and they didn't even lose to PSG they drew twice. How does that make the Premier league rubbish? Arsenal did what they do sometimes and fcked up. Man City seem to have a mental block about it, but English sides have done fine over the years, it's not like they're all going stuffed every year and no Premier League sides have ever won it. Barca, Madrid, PSG and Bayern are always going to be capable of beating anyone. Chelsea or Man City could beat them on their day, but in cup football you never know do you. I seem to remember Costa and Courtois getting to the final last season, and a weaker Chelsea being in the semi final. So has the Premier League become rubbish in the last 9 months? Don't know if it's become rubbish in the last 9 months but Southampton have been in the top 4 for virtually the whole season, .
Window Cleaner Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Exactly. And not too long since they got stuffed by Dortmund, who now struggle a bit. In fact that year a few did say it's the end of Spanish football dominance, and certainly the end of Barcelona. I suppose it's the media's job to sensationalise it each season but it's rarely insightful. I just don't think a huge amount can be judged on cup football, it's literally luck of the draw most the time. An English club getting an easy route to the latter stages doesn't make the league any better or worse. The only club to really fck up is Arsenal. Would anyone swap their squad for Monaco's? Really? Arsenal could easily turn over their 3-1 defeat, Monaco just aren't a good side....then again neither are Arsenal on occasions.
eelpie Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 I don't think we need to be too angst about Chelsea. We have shown that when we play at our best we cause them problems. So bring them on!
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Not sure if I agree with those advocating sitting back and playing on the break. Firstly I think the last thing we want to do is drop deep and invite pressure. They have the quality to break through eventually. Secondly I don't think we particularly have the players or the set up to play on the break. Might as well go for it. Morgan and Wanyama are protection enough in front of a back 4 containing Toby.
pap Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Just listened to Football Weekly Extra. They reckon that the tie will be a clash between two tired teams Chelsea, maybe.
iansums Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Hope our fans give Chelsea some stick after last night, "you dirty cheating b*stards" would be perfect.
hasper57saint Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Mike Dean is the Ref for Sunday.He has some previous with Chelsea so he may just do us a couple of favours. PS He's from the Wirral.
pap Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Mike Dean is the Ref for Sunday.He has some previous with Chelsea so he may just do us a couple of favours. PS He's from the Wirral. Jasper Carrott's referee lovechild.
chestersaint Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 Mike Dean is the Ref for Sunday.He has some previous with Chelsea so he may just do us a couple of favours. PS He's from the Wirral. I work with his son on law. I've already had a word
Charlie Wayman Posted 12 March, 2015 Posted 12 March, 2015 And thank the Lord we don't have boring league like them. Championship too that is a pretty incredible league! Dead right, this year's run-in for the Championship promises to be sensational and watching is compulsive. Best advice for everyone is skip MotD and watch the Football League Show instead, you will not regret it. This is how we remember football at its best.
trousers Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 I've always liked Dermot O'Leary... http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/31833853
Saint Garrett Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 Assuming the presser is today? Hopefully Toby is now fully fit - full squad bar JRod. I'd go either(3-5-2): Forster; Alderweireld Fonte Yoshida; Clyne Schneiderlin Davis Wanyama Bertrand; Pelle Mane Or: (4-3-3) Forster; Clyne Alderweireld Fonte Bertrand; Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis; Tadic Pelle Mane
Wade Garrett Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 I think the WBA game proved that rather than set up for the opposition, our best bet is to stick to what we do best. Wonder if Long will start in front of Pelle. I reckon he'll give Terry and Cahill a much tougher game than Graziano would.
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 our best bet is to stick to what we do best. Ponce around the penalty box not shooting, sling 100 crosses onto defender's heads, and get done on the Counter Attack
Saint Rees Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 We should go for it like we did in the home game, almost a 4-4-2 with Mane playing off Pelle, but bring Clyne and Bertrand in for Yoshida and Targett (assuming Toby is fit of course) Forster; Clyne Alderweireld Fonte Bertrand; Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis; Tadic Pelle Mane They couldn't handle Mane running at them, lets hope for the same again Sunday
Matthew Le God Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 Assuming the presser is today? 2pm today according to BBC Sport website.
Batman Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 I wonder how many dull, pointless questions will get asked today at the presser
Bearsy Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 I wonder how many dull, pointless questions will get asked today at the presser Can't wait to hear Koeman's views on Chelsea's exit from the Champions League, Matic's suspension, Chelsea's prospects of winning the Premier League, and Mourinho's haircut
S-Clarke Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 I wonder how many dull, pointless questions will get asked today at the presser ''What did you think about Chelsea's acting on Wednesday night?'' ''What do you think of the state of English teams in Europe?'' ''Do you believe Chelsea froze on the occasion?'' ''What is your opinion on the performance of Gareth Bale?'' ''Will you be Barcelona manager soon?'' ''Oh, and any injury news for your team?''
Saint Rees Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 "Do you think Jeremy Clarkson should lose his job?"
Saint Charlie Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 "Ronald, any update on the fitness of Jay Rodriguez and Emmanuel Mayuka?"
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 13 March, 2015 Posted 13 March, 2015 "The transfer window is months away. Any update on Nathaniel Clyne and Morgan Schneiderlin?"
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