trousers Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/11828391.Schneiderlin__Southampton_s_Champions_League_dream_is_alive/ Schneiderlin explained that the players held an honest meeting about what they can do to change things. “We had a good chat about it - why we don't score,” said the 25-year-old, who insisted the lack of goals is a problem the whole team must address and not just a few individual players. “Some people say 'Well, maybe I don't make that run that I was making before,' so now we just say 'Ok, we're going to do it again.' “Make that run. Even if it doesn't work for 89 minutes, maybe it's going to work in 91st minute. “I see big teams playing, and I see big strikers or big players speaking about football - they all say 'I do ten runs in a game. Maybe for nine the ball doesn't come, but for the tenth I will score and I will have a good game'.” Sounds like a good idea to me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Talking about players and runs, makes me think we should re-sign Puncheon. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I've got an idea for them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattio Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I've got an idea for them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Wow, I'm impressed that Morgan knows so much about the England ODI team's problems down under. Certainly he seems to give more effective advice than Peter Moores is doing. Hang on, is that the right Morgan that's been quoted? The French one not the Irish one? Think I better get back to my OSH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Sounds to me like Pelle hasn't been making the runs because he doesn't get the ball enough. Would certainly tie in with what I've actually observed. Pelle will probably be back in tonight by the sounds of it. Hopefully, this conversation can help turn things round for him and the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 So after 5 games professional football players remember that they are supposed to make runs off the ball ? Really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 At least they are taking responsibility and talking about the issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2015 More from Morgan here (talking to Adam Blackmore): https://audioboom.com/boos/2948384-listen-saintsfc-star-schneiderlinmo4-gives-his-full-unedited-thoughts-on-that-pass-europe-and-returning-to-form-and-fitness-to-bigadamsport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 The problem has been there for quite a while. The midfielders Davis, Ward-Prowse, Wanyama and Schneiderlin had all stopped making runs preferring to sit behind the ball and in front of the massed defence indulging in possession football often going back to Forster. The service to the front three was poor. Pelle has had the rough end of the stick, yes I know he has snatched at the few real chances but he was always under pressure and isolated. Schneiderlin and Wanyama have three goals each from way back but apart from Schneiderlin's air shot v WBA in recent times no threat at all. JWP and Davis have both squandered gilt edged chances and seem unnerved in front of goal. .. It badly needs the midfielders to run the channels. I'd like to see Djuricic as the third midfielder behind Pelle and two from Mane, Long, Tadic and Elia. Reed for me when he played displayed the dynamism required the others were playing with a very slow tempo. We have to step up the tempo overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I've got an idea for them: I'm with you on this, but having suggested on another fred that the more we shoot, the higher the likelihood will be that we score, I have had this opinion challenged and labelled as "agricultural". Furthermore, statistics apparently prove that depending on where the shots are taken from, it might well be the case that having fewer shots could actually result on scoring more goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport QUOTE OF THE SEASON from @SchneiderlinMo4 : "We need to put our d**** on the table and show what we can do" - #saintsfc v #cpfc on 96.1fm That would have made a better thread title... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Adam Blackmore @bigadamsport QUOTE OF THE SEASON from @SchneiderlinMo4 : "We need to put our d**** on the table and show what we can do" - #saintsfc v #cpfc on 96.1fm That would have made a better thread title... I'm going to miss that lad when he is gone. I'm still not over that pass he played to Mané at the weekend, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manzo Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 The most telling bit of football I've seen all season was during the Swansea game where Pelle failed to make that run into the box (or into a good position) thus not getting near it when the ball came in. Or you could choose the run he made on Saturday, curving his run to stay onside whilst Tadic ****ed around on the ball and didn't pass to him. Or does that not fit with the "Pelle isn't running" narrative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Are we about to witness a miracle? Is the improbable about to happen? Morgan Schneiderlin talking up Southampton as if it was his club for ever? Let's just hope that he has had a change of heart and will still be a Saint next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Are we about to witness a miracle? Is the improbable about to happen? Morgan Schneiderlin talking up Southampton as if it was his club for ever? Let's just hope that he has had a change of heart and will still be a Saint next year. He won't, but that doesn't mean he won't be a committed professional to a club that gave him his shot at football in England and has been his home for the last seven years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Are we about to witness a miracle? Is the improbable about to happen? Morgan Schneiderlin talking up Southampton as if it was his club for ever? Let's just hope that he has had a change of heart and will still be a Saint next year. No, unfortunately. The guy is better than us, and should go to a bigger side. I for one will say 'thanks, and good luck'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I'm with you on this, but having suggested on another fred that the more we shoot, the higher the likelihood will be that we score, I have had this opinion challenged and labelled as "agricultural". Furthermore, statistics apparently prove that depending on where the shots are taken from, it might well be the case that having fewer shots could actually result on scoring more goals. I'd rather one shot from a yard out than 10 from 30 yards. So you appear a bit simple for not understanding this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 No, unfortunately. The guy is better than us, and should go to a bigger side. I for one will say 'thanks, and good luck'. Sadly, I think this is the case. I'd love if the Barca rumours are true. I'd hate to have to see him line up against us twice (maybe more) a season. Yes, I am aware that is a little petty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Sadly, I think this is the case. I'd love if the Barca rumours are true. I'd hate to have to see him line up against us twice (maybe more) a season. Yes, I am aware that is a little petty. It may be petty, but I think we'll all agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Sadly, I think this is the case. I'd love if the Barca rumours are true. I'd hate to have to see him line up against us twice (maybe more) a season. Yes, I am aware that is a little petty. But we might draw them in the Champions League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 But we might draw them in the Champions League. True, but I prefer the lesser odds of that happening than the guaranteed odds of coming up against him twice a season in the Premier League! Also, I'd be pretty chuffed if we get to the Champions League and draw Barcelona! I'd not expect much from those games anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I'd rather one shot from a yard out than 10 from 30 yards. So you appear a bit simple for not understanding this. Presumably you mean that you would prefer the shot that produced a goal from one yard out than 10 shots from 30 yards that didn't? The way that you tried to explain that makes you look a bit simple too. Pelle can shoot from one yard out and miss as he did recently and Clyne can score from 35 yards out. The value of a goal is equal despite where it is scored from, but one is expected to be far easier than the other, therefore the chances of success from shooting from distance are naturally lower. But we have suffered by gaining no points during the past few matches because we have not scored, whereas Berahino and Coutinho have both won matches for their teams by scoring from well outside the box. I have already made a case for shooting from distance more often, because of the ancilliary repercussions that might ensue from deflections, one goals, penalty awards, etc. If only we scored every time we shot, eh, regardless of where the shot came from. Then we could afford to have a much smaller number of shots and still win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I would rather players saved their talking for the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I'd rather one shot from a yard out than 10 from 30 yards. So you appear a bit simple for not understanding this. Just a shot would be nice. Tell us, how many games have we lost to "a worldy" recently? Maybe out of the 10, 2 go in, better than the one that goes under Pelle's foot and we still don't get a shot from a yard out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 We had some long range shots on Saturday, in the first half I remember seeing a few sail far over the bar and into the fans behind Foster's goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I would rather players saved their talking for the pitch. Only if its celebrating scoring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 I would rather players saved their talking for the pitch. Yeah if they're genuinely going to put their dicks on the table, I would rather it was where we can all see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Well i've got to say that personally i think we're incredibly lucky to have such great media access to players these days. Insightful comments like this are exactly the reason why. I mean in days gone by we'd never have known that players if make off the ball runs for the entire period of the game we'd have more chance of scoring. Seriously interesting stuff, and really worth the column inches and money that it cost to put it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 3 March, 2015 Share Posted 3 March, 2015 Barcelona is under a transfer embargo this summer. Morgan will not be going there before January. Of course, if we make the Champions League but get eliminated in the group stage that might be perfect timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Barcelona is under a transfer embargo this summer. Morgan will not be going there before January. Of course, if we make the Champions League but get eliminated in the group stage that might be perfect timing. clarified by FIFA recently, Barcelona can buy players in the summer but they can't play them until the next window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 clarified by FIFA recently, Barcelona can buy players in the summer but they can't play them until the next window. Buy him from us this summer and loan him back for our season in Europe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadpanmatt Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 The lack of runs is definitely the problem in my opinion. They started making runs in the second half and we looked much better; the attackers have been far too static of late and it's just too easy to defend against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Buy him from us this summer and loan him back for our season in Europe The best solution all round......I imagine that would knock a bit off of the final price Barca pay, but I'd take that - just to have him for 1 more year, and then the thought of him playing at Barca. Easily the best outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 March, 2015 Author Share Posted 4 March, 2015 (edited) The lack of runs is definitely the problem in my opinion. They started making runs in the second half and we looked much better; the attackers have been far too static of late and it's just too easy to defend against. Indeed. Mane scored because he ran from almost the half way line and kept going after laying the ball off to JWP. More of the same please Saints! Edited 5 March, 2015 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Earlier in the season we were making those runs from deep central midfielders. We regularly overloaded the box and the opposition simply couldn't cope. That's why Morgan, Wanyama and even Cork back then but havn't since. For me it was the most noticeable difference between Poch and Koeman. It's stopped and our forward play has become slower and more predictable at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 4 March, 2015 Share Posted 4 March, 2015 Earlier in the season we were making those runs from deep central midfielders. We regularly overloaded the box and the opposition simply couldn't cope. That's why Morgan, Wanyama and even Cork back then but havn't since. For me it was the most noticeable difference between Poch and Koeman. It's stopped and our forward play has become slower and more predictable at the same time. We've had Koeman all season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 clarified by FIFA recently, Barcelona can buy players in the summer but they can't play them until the next window. I think we can be confident that Morgan is not going to sit around and do nothing from August until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 If Morgan goes to Barca I will be very happy for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 Presumably you mean that you would prefer the shot that produced a goal from one yard out than 10 shots from 30 yards that didn't? Obviously. Because the point of shooting is to score. The rest of your post was superfluous, you're still statistically better having one shot from a yard than ten from 30 yards in terms of likelihood of scoring. Which, again, is the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 5 March, 2015 Share Posted 5 March, 2015 Obviously. Because the point of shooting is to score. The rest of your post was superfluous, you're still statistically better having one shot from a yard than ten from 30 yards in terms of likelihood of scoring. Which, again, is the point. It rather depends on who is doing the shooting as there are 10 outfield players and presumably those statistics are for all players not just strikers. One assumes that in general strikers ought to be more capable of hitting a longer shot with more accuracy than a midfielder or defender. Regarding the rest of my post, why is my point superfluous suggesting that shots from distance might result in goals from deflections, own goals, penalties, etc? There have been quite a few matches won recently on the back of deflected shots, penalties, own goals, so they cannot be statistically that rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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