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So, why the f**k does Marek Saganowski need "international clearance" in order to play for the team with which he is legally registered again ?

 

Why has Dyer not returned when the loan deal for Robertson was up ? According to that page, Sheffield United RECALLED him.

 

What a load of codswallop that OS page is. It's full of lies, spin and more lies all to cover up Lowe & Co's intent to put out cheap and weak teams.

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So, why the f**k does Marek Saganowski need "international clearance" in order to play for the team with which he is legally registered again ?

 

Why has Dyer not returned when the loan deal for Robertson was up ? According to that page, Sheffield United RECALLED him.

 

What a load of codswallop that OS page is. It's full of lies, spin and more lies all to cover up Lowe & Co's intent to put out cheap and weak teams.

 

What does this have to do with a car crash?

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So, why the f**k does Marek Saganowski need "international clearance" in order to play for the team with which he is legally registered again ?

 

Why has Dyer not returned when the loan deal for Robertson was up ? According to that page, Sheffield United RECALLED him.

 

What a load of codswallop that OS page is. It's full of lies, spin and more lies all to cover up Lowe & Co's intent to put out cheap and weak teams.

 

Dyer = Maybe because he wont play against MAnure and we are not playing till the 10th?

 

Saga = maybe thats the laws of football?

 

Ever considered its not all Lowes fault before and 99% of it is yours?

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Dyer = Maybe because he wont play against MAnure and we are not playing till the 10th?

 

Saga = maybe thats the laws of football?

 

Ever considered its not all Lowes fault before and 99% of it is yours?

 

No, but I have considered how far your tongue is up Lowe's rectal cavity. Just in passing...

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Not just you - the man didn't die until the following day, and he had been conscious, so there may have been no reason to assume his injuries were more serious than whiplash.

It's a tragedy for everyone. We all do things that divert our attention from the road, drive when we're tired, angry etc.

 

It's not minor when a victim has to be airlifted to hospital!

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Did you even bother to click the link before you wrote that ?

 

It's the link about loan deals.

 

I'm still not sure what it has got to do with Robertson's car crash or why you think Lowe would bother wasting his time with a loan deal round-up article.

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If his loan deal was until 31st December, as seems the case, and we had a game at plymouth on boxing day, what the F**k was he doing on the M1 near Coventry a 3pm on Christmas day?

According to the newspaper article Saints are quoted as saying the loan agreement was terminated after he last played for us on 13th December. If that is true, then he would not have been travelling down the M1 in connection with Saints. You might take into account that he had probably been visiting his family for Christmas Day, after all he was not training with us as he had finished with us 12 days earlier. Seems very odd to me that despite his agreement having terminated the OS still reported him as being in the squad for Plymouth until the news of the accident broke. All a little bit fishy.

 

Unfotunately tragedies like this happen when inexperienced drivers get behind the wheel of cars they should not be driving at their age. Because of the money footballers get paid these days they can afford the incredible insurance that normal joe soaps would not be able to afford. We've all done things like this over the years, but with experience most of us can exercise such manouevres in relative safety thanfully.

 

Condolences to the family of Mr Mohamed.

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Unfotunately tragedies like this happen when inexperienced drivers get behind the wheel of cars they should not be driving at their age. Because of the money footballers get paid these days they can afford the incredible insurance that normal joe soaps would not be able to afford. We've all done things like this over the years, but with experience most of us can exercise such manouevres in relative safety thanfully.

 

 

 

Well thats a load of rubbish! It wouldnt have mattered if he was driving a 1.1l ford fiesta, he took his eyes of the road for that split second, thats what caused the accident, not the fact he was driving a merc.

 

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It's the link about loan deals.

 

I'm still not sure what it has got to do with Robertson's car crash or why you think Lowe would bother wasting his time with a loan deal round-up article.

 

Jesus !!

 

The point is this : the details about Robertson are inaccurate there, so why should the rest be believed ???

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You need to get some perspective mate. Some poor fella is dead, depriving a wife and family this year and forever. And you still bang on about spin and Lowe... get some meaning in your sorry life.

 

OK. So the bloke is dead. It's criminal, its tragic, and I feel for the poor family deprived of a father and husband.

 

Does that mean any issues that arise from this incident and the reporting of it are taboo ?

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OK. So the bloke is dead. It's criminal, its tragic, and I feel for the poor family deprived of a father and husband.

 

Does that mean any issues that arise from this incident and the reporting of it are taboo ?

 

I played taboo on xmas day, i got Alpine Saint the 5 words i could mentoin to describe him were

 

Alpine

Saint

We need a defender

Lowe

Spin

Negative

I support Pompey

 

Intresting hey?

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OK. So the bloke is dead. It's criminal, its tragic, and I feel for the poor family deprived of a father and husband.

 

Does that mean any issues that arise from this incident and the reporting of it are taboo ?

 

 

Who gives a flying t0ss?? Robertson went back and sadly killed someone en route. I'm sure the first thoughts in all the reporters' minds were for the sake of accuracy of his loan deal... you really are past caring about.

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OK. So the bloke is dead. It's criminal, its tragic, and I feel for the poor family deprived of a father and husband.

 

Does that mean any issues that arise from this incident and the reporting of it are taboo ?

 

 

FFS - start a new thread about that then instead of distorting this one. That article has NOTHING whatsoever to do with a car crash.

 

You provoke a reaction on here from many posters. Sometimes I think the stick you take on here is unwarranted but when a thread about the death of a man and the potential ruin of another young man's life because of a fateful moment of lost-concetration is turned into a pop at Lowe because some junior dimwit has written a badly worded piece on the OS, it is time to take stock.

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whoever said/reported it was a minor accident on the OS last week needs sacking, that is disgraceful, thoughts go out to the family of the man who died.
Calm down, who knows what their source for the story was. For all we know Robertson could have told the club what happened and who knows what his state of mind would have been at the time. Either way, it shows how desperate some people are for sackings with no real thought for the process or consequences which lead to the action which has got them in such an unnecessary flap.

 

is it me or am I the only one who thinks that it was reported as minor at the time due to not knowing the full scale and the story was put out.....maybe the true extent of everything was not revealed by the police etc...

Amen to that.

 

Two footballers in one year, Stevie G duffing some guy up; how long until the Daily Mail start running 'Footballers out of control' stories?

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just out of interest what do the mercedes clc 180 cost?

and does that indicate that his wages were higher than some on here have suggested

 

Brand new Mercedes CLC 180 Sport Coupe £264.48 on personal contract, including - Metallic Paint, 18 inch Alloy wheels, Parking Sensors, Cruise Control, Remote Central Locking, Power Steering, Drivers Airbag, Passenger Airbag, Side Airbags, Traction Control, Anti Lock Breaks, MP3 CD Player, order today on 2 year contract with low deposit £689.97 + VAT

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whoever said/reported it was a minor accident on the OS last week needs sacking, that is disgraceful, thoughts go out to the family of the man who died.

 

You need to understand that the exact seriousness of any accident does not always become apparent to everyone until very much later on in proceedings after police have done their investigating.

 

I work for an insurance company and our claims department are often not aware of the seriousness of an RTA until they receive a police report or some other means of describing an incident which leads them to believe it is in fact very serious. This happens more often than you may think.

 

It is highly likely that this is just the OS reporting what they were told by someone else immediately after the accident and therefore I think you are being extremely harsh on the person who has written the article.

 

Agree totally that condolences and thoughts go to the family of the man who has died.

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Please let’s not lose site of the fact that an innocent man has lost his life through no fault of his own. Commiserations to his wife and children who Christmas will NEVER be the same for again.

 

Thank you for reminding us of the true importance of this thread, Ewell. Looks like a good man, and a loving father has died prematurely due to either a complete accident, of a second or two of irresponsibility. Possibly only Jordan Robertson really knows.

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Charlie Sale helping influence the Mail article with some Lowe-biased spin ????

 

Alpine, I don't see how on earth that article can be construed as Lowe based spin.

 

You know, this is a report of an incident that happened to involve a loaned Saints player, I can see no spin in it whatsoever.

 

Some of you guys really need to lose this obsession with Lowe influencing anything in the world written that has a connection with Saints.

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Scumbag. hope he gets what he deserves.

 

Were you in the car with him, or how do you know what happened? The Daily Mail reporter is so sure of the facts that he doesn't even give his name. I remember A Times Reporter accusing us of a riot in Portsmouth when we were in fact being held back in the stadium.

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It is dangerous driving, and it's stupid, but I bet it's something most on here have done. I know I have. Yet apparently we can be all self righteous if it ends badly for someone other than us. At worst he's guilty of being an idiot and has likely put himself in jail for a while, plus having to live with it.

 

****e footballer though.

 

Nope I don't have an Ipod and never telephone whilst driving.

In fact I grass on everybody that I see doing it. Nothing is more dangerous.

Anyway don't flash Mercedes have built in MP3 players now that you can change with the little buttons behind the steering wheel (or on it) No? Cheap

German Rubbish then :smt078:smt078:smt078:smt078

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Please let’s not lose site of the fact that an innocent man has lost his life through no fault of his own. Commiserations to his wife and children who Christmas will NEVER be the same for again.

 

I don't think Christmas would have been much of an issue for the family but thats beside the point.

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If his loan deal was until 31st December, as seems the case, and we had a game at plymouth on boxing day, what the F**k was he doing on the M1 near Coventry a 3pm on Christmas day?

 

 

He was probably on his way to training. Said on the OS that they were training at 5pm. So would have had time to get there i would have thought. Bit strange that Saints said that his loan expired after the Burnley game. Newspaper probably got it wrong.

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Headline for this thread is out of order, almost wishing it on a 20 year old lad, shame on you.

An aquaintance of mine was recently arrested for the same offence and subsequently cleared as 'AFTER INVESTIGATION' it was found he could have done little or nothing to prevent the collision, not suggesting for a moment this is the fact in this case, however, the fact is we do not know any of the facts !! those who had a dislike for my pal spouted similar to this headline and cared nothing for the families loss or his state of mind having been involved in an incident where another human being died, wholly inappropriate to then use it as a stick to beat Lowe with, you do not need a tragedy like this as an excuse ffs.

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Calm down, who knows what their source for the story was. For all we know Robertson could have told the club what happened and who knows what his state of mind would have been at the time. Either way, it shows how desperate some people are for sackings with no real thought for the process or consequences which lead to the action which has got them in such an unnecessary flap.

 

 

Amen to that.

 

Two footballers in one year, Stevie G duffing some guy up; how long until the Daily Mail start running 'Footballers out of control' stories?

 

Sorry but the story was that it was a minor accident. What was said was "Robertson is suffering from bruises from a minor traffic accident". Where is the mentioning that a guy had to be air lifted to hospital and was fighting for his life which sadly he lost? If the person writing it did not know the circumstances of the event then why publish it? The club might not have spoken to Robertson or the police at that time but the way they presented it was to make it sound like he was in a bad way. Notice how the story has now been pulled from the OS and all that remains is one sentence on the Reading preview saying "Robertson wont figure after being in a minor car crash over xmas".

 

The reality is if you work in media and you present news then get your facts right before you press the print button especially on a story like that. Now the dust has settled and true facts are coming out it would appear the boy was playing around with his stereo and crashed into the other car because of it. And now he has been arrested because of it. Soon as that story was told notice Saints distancing themselves from him? Notice the "Southampton decided not to comment on the incident" bit?

 

So the bit you say "shows no real thought for the process" makes me laugh because what process is that? Do the Saints OS follow a different line of conduct to the rest of us in the media? A journalists job is to know the facts and to print what has happened. How could he miss a 30 ton ambulance helicopter? Or the fact a motorway had to be closed to deal with it? Or maybe not even phone the hospital to find out that a guy was fighting for his life? So the reason the guy needs to be sacked is because he didnt do his job simple as that. How would you feel if that was your dad (or family member) and you saw that news piece saying it was "minor"? Of course you would be totally understanding im sure....

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Sorry but the story was that it was a minor accident. What was said was "Robertson is suffering from bruises from a minor traffic accident". Where is the mentioning that a guy had to be air lifted to hospital and was fighting for his life which sadly he lost? If the person writing it did not know the circumstances of the event then why publish it? The club might not have spoken to Robertson or the police at that time but the way they presented it was to make it sound like he was in a bad way. Notice how the story has now been pulled from the OS and all that remains is one sentence on the Reading preview saying "Robertson wont figure after being in a minor car crash over xmas".

 

The reality is if you work in media and you present news then get your facts right before you press the print button especially on a story like that. Now the dust has settled and true facts are coming out it would appear the boy was playing around with his stereo and crashed into the other car because of it. And now he has been arrested because of it. Soon as that story was told notice Saints distancing themselves from him? Notice the "Southampton decided not to comment on the incident" bit?

So the bit you say "shows no real thought for the process" makes me laugh because what process is that? Do the Saints OS follow a different line of conduct to the rest of us in the media? A journalists job is to know the facts and to print what has happened. How could he miss a 30 ton ambulance helicopter? Or the fact a motorway had to be closed to deal with it? Or maybe not even phone the hospital to find out that a guy was fighting for his life? So the reason the guy needs to be sacked is because he didnt do his job simple as that. How would you feel if that was your dad (or family member) and you saw that news piece saying it was "minor"? Of course you would be totally understanding im sure....

 

Because no one from Southampton FC was there were they?

 

What are they supposed to say?

 

"Hope the scumbag gets what he deserves""

 

Only a borish, block-headed dullard with an incapability of comprehending even the most basic complexities of the world around him would say that....

 

Oh....

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How do you go about doing that?

 

Noting down the car numbers when I'm walking about town and giving the list to the Old Bill of course.

They throw it in the bin I expect but having had my car trashed by an 18 year bimbo on the telephone trying to send a photograph of herself to someone

it's something I feel strongly about. There is no need whatsoever for incessant telephoning, makes me want to vomit, silly dicks on the phone in the supermarket asking their Mrs in the next alley what brand of sausages they should buy. How on earth did we all manage before the mid 90's eh!!

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Because no one from Southampton FC was there were they?

 

What are they supposed to say?

 

"Hope the scumbag gets what he deserves""

 

Only a borish, block-headed dullard with an incapability of comprehending even the most basic complexities of the world around him would say that....

 

Oh....

 

I never said anything about Robertson, read what i said....

 

And they should have done what everyone else does and simply say nothing. "Robertson is unavailable due to injury". As i said a journalists job is to know the facts of the story. If the person writing it didnt know then to simply guess makes it even worse.

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I never said anything about Robertson, read what i said....

 

And they should have done what everyone else does and simply say nothing. "Robertson is unavailable due to injury". As i said a journalists job is to know the facts of the story. If the person writing it didnt know then to simply guess makes it even worse.

 

No, I know. Sorry. I realise that looked like I was talking about you, and that wasn't the intention.

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I never said anything about Robertson, read what i said....

 

And they should have done what everyone else does and simply say nothing. "Robertson is unavailable due to injury". As i said a journalists job is to know the facts of the story. If the person writing it didnt know then to simply guess makes it even worse.

 

The OS said he'd been involved in a minor car accident though;

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Sorry but the story was that it was a minor accident. What was said was "Robertson is suffering from bruises from a minor traffic accident". Where is the mentioning that a guy had to be air lifted to hospital and was fighting for his life which sadly he lost? If the person writing it did not know the circumstances of the event then why publish it? The club might not have spoken to Robertson or the police at that time but the way they presented it was to make it sound like he was in a bad way. Notice how the story has now been pulled from the OS and all that remains is one sentence on the Reading preview saying "Robertson wont figure after being in a minor car crash over xmas".

 

The reality is if you work in media and you present news then get your facts right before you press the print button especially on a story like that. Now the dust has settled and true facts are coming out it would appear the boy was playing around with his stereo and crashed into the other car because of it. And now he has been arrested because of it. Soon as that story was told notice Saints distancing themselves from him? Notice the "Southampton decided not to comment on the incident" bit?

 

So the bit you say "shows no real thought for the process" makes me laugh because what process is that? Do the Saints OS follow a different line of conduct to the rest of us in the media? A journalists job is to know the facts and to print what has happened. How could he miss a 30 ton ambulance helicopter? Or the fact a motorway had to be closed to deal with it? Or maybe not even phone the hospital to find out that a guy was fighting for his life? So the reason the guy needs to be sacked is because he didnt do his job simple as that. How would you feel if that was your dad (or family member) and you saw that news piece saying it was "minor"? Of course you would be totally understanding im sure....

 

I can understand what you are saying if it was in a real part of the media, but the SFC OS is hardly really part of the national media is it? The chances are the bloke who writes the OS was told by someone who in turn was informed by someone else who got an email from Lowe's secretary who was told by someone else... and as the article in question was actually about who was and was not available to play, and given that the OS editor was not and is not a qualified hack, the 'error' of describing the accident as minor was allowed to pass. In any event, had the editor known that a man had died I don't think it would have been right - or even remotely relevant - to mention it on the club's OS, however tragic it certainly is.

 

While he shouldn't have broken his concentration as he did while driving, I genuinely feel for Robertson. Obviously the victim in this is the dead man, but Robertson will suffer as well. A very tragic incident, and even more so that it was thoroughly avoidable.

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And they should have done what everyone else does and simply say nothing. "Robertson is unavailable due to injury".

Which would have been a lie, which would have led to an even bigger outcry by those who clearly have nothing better to do than concoct conspiracy theories about how The Dark Evil Mr Lowe is some sort of world-dominating Illuminati.

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Well thats a load of rubbish! It wouldnt have mattered if he was driving a 1.1l ford fiesta, he took his eyes of the road for that split second, thats what caused the accident, not the fact he was driving a merc.

 

Lolismtasticsperm

Guess you are a young inexperienced driver as well then. If you don't think experience behind the wheel counts, then God help anyone on the road when you are around. Kids driving Merc sports cars should not be tolerated. Now feck off and learn to drive, ****.

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Guess you are a young inexperienced driver as well then. If you don't think experience behind the wheel counts, then God help anyone on the road when you are around. Kids driving Merc sports cars should not be tolerated. Now feck off and learn to drive, ****.

 

 

I bet lewis hamilton agrees with you

 

 

i know, my point is completely stupid...

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I bet lewis hamilton agrees with you

 

 

i know, my point is completely stupid...

Comparison of Robertson with Lewis Hamlton is indeed a bit stupid. You do know that Lewis is almost 24 (4 years older than Robertson) and has been driving since the age of 6. Probably has more experience than most people in their mid-30s. If a few more kids actually spent some time driving karts under controlled conditions and experiencing the speed and car control long before they were allowed on the public roads, we probably would not have half the problems we have with young drivers today. Sadly long gone are the days when you learned car control in a farm yard or a field or on a disused airfield, nowadays kids get their licence and think they know how to drive.

 

Anyway, take back some of what I said. I read the press report that he was driving a Merc sports car. In hindsight a CLC180 is about as like a sports car as a Ford Fiesta. It was probably a diesel as well :)

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