alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1102796/Footballer-arrested-crash-killed-father-changing-songs-iPod-driving-M1.html
Saints1980 Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 His loan agreement ended on the 13th December? Why was this on the OS just before the Reading game? "On-loan striker Jordan Robertson is unlikely to be available following his involvement in a minor car accident over Christmas". Hardly a minor accident either.
Paul Chuckle Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/4008850.Saints_loan_striker_arrested_after_Christmas_Day_crash/
saint lard Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1102796/Footballer-arrested-crash-killed-father-changing-songs-iPod-driving-M1.html Oh dear. Saw this reported by the Echo,didn't think much of it at the time,Mind you they didn't quite report it in the same detail. Saints' coach set to make changes 6:00am Saturday 27th December 2008 Comments (51) Have your say » By Adam Leitch » JORDAN Robertson is likely to be sidelined for tomorrow’s match with Reading after being involved in a car crash on Christmas day. The on loan striker was in a car on the M1 when the incident occurred. CLICK HERE TO READ ABOUT SAINTS AGM Though he is understood to have just suffered some bruising the incident has understandably left him shaken up and Poortvliet had to reshuffle his team in the wake of the news and an ankle injury sustained by Adam Lallana in Christmas day training.
trousers Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 His loan agreement ended on the 13th December? Why was this on the OS just before the Reading game? "On-loan striker Jordan Robertson is unlikely to be available following his involvement in a minor car accident over Christmas". Hardly a minor accident either. Yet more economies of truth on the OS? Either his contract ended on 13th or it didn't....and thus he was either available for selection or back at Sheff Utd. What's wrong with telling us the truth once in a while? (p.s. the Daily Mail article also suggests that Dyer is back when it says that Robertson is back at Sheff Utd and that the 'player swap deal' with Saints terminated)
alpine_saint Posted 30 December, 2008 Author Posted 30 December, 2008 Charlie Sale helping influence the Mail article with some Lowe-biased spin ????
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Yet more economies of truth on the OS? Either his contract ended on 13th or it didn't....and thus he was either available for selection or back at Sheff Utd. What's wrong with telling us the truth once in a while? (p.s. the Daily Mail article also suggests that Dyer is back when it says that Robertson is back at Sheff Utd and that the 'player swap deal' with Saints terminated) We got him on loan for three months in September with Nathan Dyer going in the opposite direction, I don't know what date it was but surely if Robertson has gone back then Dyer will be back with us, if that's the case where was Dyer on Sunday? As you say perhaps the OS can give us the true state of affairs but lets not hold our breathe.
St Marco Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 whoever said/reported it was a minor accident on the OS last week needs sacking, that is disgraceful, thoughts go out to the family of the man who died.
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Charlie Sale helping influence the Mail article with some Lowe-biased spin ???? Lowe does seem to have influences/friends with the Mail. Every now and again the Mail will print a pro Lowe story.
Ewell Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Please let’s not lose site of the fact that an innocent man has lost his life through no fault of his own. Commiserations to his wife and children who Christmas will NEVER be the same for again.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 whoever said/reported it was a minor accident on the OS last week needs sacking, that is disgraceful, thoughts go out to the family of the man who died. lynch MOB................................
IFHP Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 We got him on loan for three months in September with Nathan Dyer going in the opposite direction, I don't know what date it was but surely if Robertson has gone back then Dyer will be back with us, if that's the case where was Dyer on Sunday? As you say perhaps the OS can give us the true state of affairs but lets not hold our breathe. http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11153
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Scumbag. hope he gets what he deserves. My sentiments, unfortunatley he won't.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 My sentiments, unfortunatley he won't. how do you know? what does he deserve then..?
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 (edited) Awful situation for the family of the man who lost his life and pretty terrible for Jordan Robertson as well . Honest drivers on here might care to remember some of the stupid things we all did when we were young and reflect 'there but for the grace of God go I' . Edited 30 December, 2008 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 He will get a year at max and possibly a fine of 20p.
Scummer Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11153 So if the loan deal ended after Sundays game, and he's now gone back, why is Nathan Dyer not expected to return to training until after the New Year? Seems he is just another player to be tossed onto the scrapheap by our revolutionary management team.
Junior Mullet Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Scumbag. hope he gets what he deserves. Oh dear, kangaroo court. Trial by newspaper? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? Let's wait for the facts before we judge him eh.... One fact is for sure though, he's played his last game in a saints shirt. Wonder what will come of our little thief now his loan is up.
lordswoodsaints Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 would they have extended his loan if he hadnt had the accident? but the most important thing is a man has lost his life and has left 5 kids,if jordan is guilty he should be punished.
miserableoldgit Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Lowe does seem to have influences/friends with the Mail. Every now and again the Mail will print a pro Lowe story. I actually sent Charles Sale an e-mail asking him for his thoughts on the current Board, him having continuosly called the previous one "lame-duck" and all that, and guess what! He hasn`t replied!!:shock::shock::shock:
trousers Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 So if the loan deal ended after Sundays game, and he's now gone back, why is Nathan Dyer not expected to return to training until after the New Year? +1 (sorry, just raised as a separate thread to avoid hijacking a thread about a sad incident)
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Nathan Dyer is beyond rubbish, he isnt good enough to play for Eastleigh.
whizzpop Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Seems like he may be another player that becomes a house hold name for the wrong reasons
SaintDonkey Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Charlie Sale helping influence the Mail article with some Lowe-biased spin ???? Flipping hades. Can't you let anything pass without seeing it as an opportunity for a dig at Lowe? This is a genuine tradegy for Mr Mohamed's family and yet you're obsession turns it into a way of scoring points in your petty little one sided war of words with Lowe. My deepest sympathy goes to those touched by these events. My deepest contempt goes to those who would subvert them for their own agenda.
Legod Third Coming Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Awful situation for the family of the man who lost his life and pretty terrible for Jordan Robertson as well . Honest drivers on here might care to remember some of the stupid things we all did when we were young and reflect 'there but for the grace of God go I' . Exactly. Not drinking just doing something he thought he could do while driving. We've all been there and been lucky - the radio, the kids, etc. Thoughts and prayers with the victim's family. The young lad should get what he deserves - and that's what a court determines.
NickG Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 not saying he wasn't totally out if order but it is normal in fatal car crash for the other party to be arrested for full investigation into the possibility of them having caused the death by dangerous driving. It may not be the case.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Flipping hades. Can't you let anything pass without seeing it as an opportunity for a dig at Lowe? This is a genuine tradegy for Mr Mohamed's family and yet you're obsession turns it into a way of scoring points in your petty little one sided war of words with Lowe. My deepest sympathy goes to those touched by these events. My deepest contempt goes to those who would subvert them for their own agenda. although it is sad....why cant this be related to football...i very much doubt the family of the victim will be reading this...so, we can be sensitive but also talk about football too...this is a football site..we are not going t offend anyone by relating the issue to football.. (I fully expect to be slated for this)
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 how do you know? what does he deserve then..? I don't know but I know he deserves a long stint in jail if he is guilty.
NickG Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Charlie Sale helping influence the Mail article with some Lowe-biased spin ???? how the f*** can your mind link Lowe to a death of a father of 4?
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 not saying he wasn't totally out if order but it is normal in fatal car crash for the other party to be arrested for full investigation into the possibility of them having caused the death by dangerous driving. It may not be the case. The poor dead guy could even be at fault, wont someone think of the children?
SaintDonkey Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 although it is sad....why cant this be related to football...i very much doubt the family of the victim will be reading this...so, we can be sensitive but also talk about football too...this is a football site..we are not going t offend anyone by relating the issue to football.. (I fully expect to be slated for this) Talk about football fine. That means talking about how we're now stripped of another option up front and we need to haw about for a new striker loan deal (probably). That's a million miles from trying to turn a tradegy into ammunition in a war against Lowe.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 I don't know but I know he deserves a long stint in jail if he is guilty. is changing a track on your ipod illegal whilst driving..? serious question..
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 is changing a track on your ipod illegal whilst driving..? serious question.. Probably considered as not paying due care and attention, same as playing with your stereo, phone, etc.
NickG Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 yes, anything that makes your attention suffer can be dangerous or careless driving. This will also include turning round to shout at the kids, changing radio, looking down to pick up can of drink etc - just using examples I can personally remember doing recently.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Probably considered as not paying due care and attention, same as playing with your stereo, phone, etc. im not trying to get a bite...i knew using your phone wasa wrongun...but did not know changing a track on your ipod is.... does that mean changing your radio station is also...:confused:
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 yes, anything that makes your attention suffer can be dangerous or careless driving. This will also include turning round to shout at the kids, changing radio, looking down to pick up can of drink etc - just using examples I can personally remember doing recently. so..something we all do then.... who is with me in handing ourselves in...? we all deserve a long sentance...we are scum
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 im not trying to get a bite...i knew using your phone wasa wrongun...but did not know changing a track on your ipod is.... does that mean changing your radio station is also...:confused: Can be mate, if you decide to plough into a family or something stupid, hence why modern cars have the controls on steering wheel.
sadoldgit Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 how the f*** can your mind link Lowe to a death of a father of 4? Nick, Alpine could link the sinking of the Titanic to Lowe!!!
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 so..something we all do then.... who is with me in handing ourselves in...? we all deserve a long sentance...we are scum Yes but without fatality, when this occurs then we should face the consequences.
sadoldgit Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 We all do things we shouldn't when driving and fortunately 99.5% of the time there are no repercussions. Fiddling with an ipod is not different to fiddling with a moble phone though and the outcome was tragic, not just a "minor" occurance. It was a bit like the crash that Channon was involved in and was reported as "minor". How can any RTA be classed as minor when someone losses their life?
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 How can any RTA be classed as minor when someone losses their life? is it me or am I the only one who thinks that it was reported as minor at the time due to not knowing the full scale and the story was put out.....maybe the true extent of everything was not revealed by the police etc...
saintwarwick Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 is it me or am I the only one who thinks that it was reported as minor at the time due to not knowing the full scale and the story was put out.....maybe the true extent of everything was not revealed by the police etc... Probably something to do with innocent until proven guilty....
Alain Perrin Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 is it me or am I the only one who thinks that it was reported as minor at the time due to not knowing the full scale and the story was put out.....maybe the true extent of everything was not revealed by the police etc... No it must be a deliberate cover up by that nasty man Mr Lowe. My thoughts go to all those involved, including Jordan. Having a death on your conscience is not something he will ever forget. As someone rightly said above, there but for the grace of God.
Thedelldays Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Probably something to do with innocent until proven guilty.... which seems to be lost on the TSW lynch mob
benjii Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Awful situation for the family of the man who lost his life and pretty terrible for Jordan Robertson as well . Honest drivers on here might care to remember some of the stupid things we all did when we were young and reflect 'there but for the grace of God go I' . Absolutely.
SoccerMom Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 is it me or am I the only one who thinks that it was reported as minor at the time due to not knowing the full scale and the story was put out.....maybe the true extent of everything was not revealed by the police etc... Not just you - the man didn't die until the following day, and he had been conscious, so there may have been no reason to assume his injuries were more serious than whiplash. It's a tragedy for everyone. We all do things that divert our attention from the road, drive when we're tired, angry etc.
benjii Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 Also, in fariness to the OS, I suspect that story was published fairly early on boxing day. Mr Mohammed died on boxing day so, whilst "minor" is an unfortunate phrase to have used, I imagine the facts at the club's disposal were pretty shady at that time. They probably only had a call from Robertson saying he had a crash but wasn't hurt badly - it's not as though the poilice would have gone, "blimey, that's Jordan Robertson, he plays for Saints, we'd better give them a precis". EDIT - I see Soccermom has said virtually the same thing above!
Simon_UK Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 If his loan deal was until 31st December, as seems the case, and we had a game at plymouth on boxing day, what the F**k was he doing on the M1 near Coventry a 3pm on Christmas day?
CabbageFace Posted 30 December, 2008 Posted 30 December, 2008 If his loan deal was until 31st December, as seems the case, and we had a game at plymouth on boxing day, what the F**k was he doing on the M1 near Coventry a 3pm on Christmas day? Yeah, how dare he travel places. Disgusting lives these footballers lead.
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