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Johnny Shearer

Johnny Shearer

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No surprise he's gone, a great shame that it's to one of our rivals.

 

Not being a funny but Watford will be looking for top half wheareas we'll be looking at safety. Just being a pragmatist.

 

If Rasiak can score a few winners against teams at the bottom end of the table then that would be good for us surely?!

SaintDonkey

SaintDonkey

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i think this is a really shocking transfer. i really think we lack firepower now

 

that's a bit of an exageration.

 

We've lost:

Saga 3 goals last season

Rasiak 8 goals last season.

 

We've still got:

John 20 goals last season

BWP 8 goals last season

McGoldrick 3 goals in 2 games this season

 

Not to mention Lallana, Paterson and White.

Bailey

Bailey

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I can't understand why some are making such a fuss over this transfer.

 

Rasiak hasn't been properly involved at Saints for quite a while now, so it's not as if we're losing our key player.

Chris Larkin

Chris Larkin

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No, Prem League only rule. Remember Lucketti could have played against Sheff Utd last season, he chose not to, but there was no rule to prevent it...

Not necessarily - the rules doesn't actively prevent players from playing against their parent clubs, but there's nothing to stop us from insisting to Watford that a clause preventing it is included in the deal here. I suppose we'll find out whether this has happened before the first game against them.

 

This seems to be a sensible deal for both clubs, good luck to Gregorz at Watford.

Johnny Shearer

Johnny Shearer

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I can't understand why some are making such a fuss over this transfer.

 

Rasiak hasn't been properly involved at Saints for quite a while now, so it's not as if we're losing our key player.

 

Completely agree with you. Some people have made out as if Rasiak is our best player and we're doomed without him. AS long as we keep SJ, I'll be happy.

jimmysaint7

jimmysaint7

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that's a bit of an exageration.

 

We've lost:

Saga 3 goals last season

Rasiak 8 goals last season.

 

We've still got:

John 20 goals last season

BWP 8 goals last season

McGoldrick 3 goals in 2 games this season

 

Not to mention Lallana, Paterson and White.

 

what about the season before that? paterson and white are not ready for the first team

Johnny Shearer

Johnny Shearer

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what about the season before that? paterson and white are not ready for the first team

 

I have to say that was a slightly different Saints team to the one we had last season. A lot more attack minded and playing some good stuff together in the games that the line up was kept the same.

jimmysaint7

jimmysaint7

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I have to say that was a slightly different Saints team to the one we had last season. A lot more attack minded and playing some good stuff together in the games that the line up was kept the same.

 

thatss agood point you make. i just feel that even in the system we have now rasiak will score goals. he is a natural goalscorer

Bailey

Bailey

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I've heard from my sources the future fee is £1.3m

 

That would make sense if the combined loan fees we've received from Bolton and Watford is around the 700K mark, meaning we would have recouped the initial transfer fee we payed Tottenham to sign him. Not to mention the 'sizeable bonus payment' we received for Rasiak's part in keeping Bolton up! All in all, providing Watford do take up their option to sign him, we've got a pretty good deal in my opinion. AND he's off the wage bill too.

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VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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Not necessarily - the rules doesn't actively prevent players from playing against their parent clubs, but there's nothing to stop us from insisting to Watford that a clause preventing it is included in the deal here. I suppose we'll find out whether this has happened before the first game against them.

 

This seems to be a sensible deal for both clubs, good luck to Gregorz at Watford.

Thats what I said wasn't it? The original post was that there was a rule to prevent loanees playing against their own club. Well there isn't, thats a popular misconception because it applies only in the Prem. What clubs put in loan contracts is a different matter, though it would be highly unlikely that Saints would seek to add a clause of this type. Seiously if I was Saints I would put a clause in that says he has to play against us, gives us more chance, if our defenders can't keep Rasiak in their pocket then they shouldn't be playing pro football. Wurzel Gummidge should be able to effectively mark him :)

Johnny Shearer

Johnny Shearer

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thatss agood point you make. i just feel that even in the system we have now rasiak will score goals. he is a natural goalscorer

 

I guess thats the point. JP seemed determined to go with DMG most of the time in pre-season. I just hope he learns a few things off SJ in terms of holding up play etc bringing others into the game.

Chris Larkin

Chris Larkin

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Thats what I said wasn't it? The original post was that there was a rule to prevent loanees playing against their own club. Well there isn't, thats a popular misconception because it applies only in the Prem. What clubs put in loan contracts is a different matter, though it would be highly unlikely that Saints would seek to add a clause of this type. Seiously if I was Saints I would put a clause in that says he has to play against us, gives us more chance, if our defenders can't keep Rasiak in their pocket then they shouldn't be playing pro football. Wurzel Gummidge should be able to effectively mark him :)

Fair enough!

JustMike

JustMike

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this does show how far we have fallen. The sooner we get investment the better. A bad, sorry state of affairs when we are forced to loan a goal scorer in this division to one of our rivals.

IN MY DAY

IN MY DAY

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i'm not fussed he's gone but why a loan? Why cant we sell the guy and get a fee rather than dragging his Saints career for another year. I cant believe the guy has the motivation to perform at this level and fear much the same as the Bolton saga, that his reputation is greater than the player himself.

dubai_phil

dubai_phil

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Sorry guys, baloney.

 

The old TSF was FULL of posts about Lazy Rasiak, uninterested Rasiak. Not fit to wear the shirt Rasiak.

 

 

I LIKED him, he was the opposite of SJ when I saw him - GR was about little flicks and layoffs, most never worked as nobody around him seemed to be playing on the same wavelength.

 

But the tone of some on here it's almost as if we'd just lost Le Tiss in his prime..

 

The fans on here weren't 100% behind him in virtually ANY of the seasons he played so to say the sky is falling isn't right.

 

It is bad news, but too many IF ONLY's. He didnt play well with SJ, him and Saga never hit it off for us and right now we can't afford to keep players based on a HOPE that our coaches can turn them around for this season.

 

He is a good CCC player, but when we sold Kenwyn and got SJ we had the problem. KJ & GR were good together SJ & GR were the same type of player. The balance of the strike force was wrong.

 

Oh and BTW, this money issue is not just Saints....

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/leagues/premierleague/2559990/Credit-crunch-makes-Premier-League-clubs-feel-the-squeeze---Football.html

Chez

Chez

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we had to lose Rasiak or John for financial reasons so its good news from that point of view.

 

He will be out of contract come the summer so that means we won't be getting a transfer fee for him now. I hope the loan fee to Watford is significant.

derry

derry

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we had to lose Rasiak or John for financial reasons so its good news from that point of view.

 

He will be out of contract come the summer so that means we won't be getting a transfer fee for him now. I hope the loan fee to Watford is significant.

 

I think he has two years left.

voteforpedro

voteforpedro

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Happy to see him off the wage bill. I never really rated him and couldn't stand watching him play as he was always the laziest player on the pitch and I don't think he was in Portvliets plans for this season.

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alpine_saint

alpine_saint

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maybe he will be, what would you rather?? keep rasiak, stern and davies or still have a club to moan about???

 

I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

 

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

 

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?

saintkiptanui

saintkiptanui

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I reckon that the exodus appears to be gathering such a pace, that administration may happen before the end of the season anyway.

 

This is beginning to look like panic activity.

 

Maybe its simply too f**king late - have you thought of that ?

no I haven't but thats because my glass is quarter full whislt yours has the spit and dregs left.
rugbysaints

rugbysaints

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gutted is just the start for me... BWP and a few others should have gone,not a man if played right can get us 20 goals-as his record when allowed to play proves.

 

Shocking, and to a rival in our league.this will come back to haunt us.

Saints67

Saints67

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At least being a loan, he can not play against us!

 

Hmmm as stated before I believe Lucketti could have turned out against his team. I just hope Rasiak doesn't though or has picked up 'an injury' by then.

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