Pancake Posted 29 June, 2015 Posted 29 June, 2015 one long term injury and we're relying on a kid all season and we know what koeman has to say about playing kids week in week out. i think we're light tbh. 11 injuries and we risk having to play the second XI! #nightmare #itshappeningbutnotasweexpsctit
sfc6mufc3 Posted 29 June, 2015 Posted 29 June, 2015 Crazy that he is less than half the money that Shaw went for.
Matthew Le God Posted 29 June, 2015 Posted 29 June, 2015 Crazy that he is less than half the money that Shaw went for. Shaw had 4 years left on his contract compared to Clyne's 1 year. That makes a big difference to price.
Saint IQ Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Odd statement there. Bogdan aside; Liverpool's have done rather well so far. Milner is a player that defines the term boring, but he hasnt played for England 54 times by being a ****e player. Ings and Gomez are up and coming players, the former someone a lot on here would have creamed themselves had we purchased. Firmino is, on paper, a cracker of a signing. Add Clyne to that and I would be rather happy if I was a 'Pool fan. Didn't think it was that odd a statement, Bar Clyne and Firmino their signings wouldn't excite me and have me believe that my 'big' club is going to get into the top 4 this season.
Saint IQ Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Plus now for the front 3 behind the striker or wide 2 and striker options are as follows Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Markovic, Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Ings, Firmino, Ibe and Coutinho So that's a total of 11 first team players for 3-4 postions in the first 11. Obviously one or two might go but still 9-10 for 3-4 postions is far too many to have in a squad.
SNSUN Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Plus now for the front 3 behind the striker or wide 2 and striker options are as follows Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Markovic, Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Ings, Firmino, Ibe and Coutinho So that's a total of 11 first team players for 3-4 postions in the first 11. Obviously one or two might go but still 9-10 for 3-4 postions is far too many to have in a squad. I read that as Sturridge (semi-permanently Injured anyway), Lallana, Markovic, Coutinho and Firmino, with the others either out this summer or bit part players. Definitely room for another striker, but they really do need to get rid of a lot of wages.
andoru Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 The £12.5m doesn't seem to compare well with the £11m being bandied about as the fee to Toby. If it works out we get £12.5m for Clyne and get Toby for £11m, that would be good business in my book. Apparently we have to give Crystal Palace 25% of the profit from the deal because of a sell-on clause. £2.5m then, as £10m of the fee is profit on the £2.5m we paid CP ourselves.
the_emu Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Let's face it, Hazard, who is the same age as Clyne, seemingly didn't suffer from burnout. I know each person is different, but ignoring internationals, so just league and cups Hazard played 52 games (4430 minutes) vs Clyne 41 games (3686 minutes) over a 9 month stretch. No let's face it, Hazard is a freak and your comparison is meaningless.
the_emu Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 You don't hear rugby players (or other professional sportspeople) moaning about burnout. If 180 minutes a week is too much perhaps they should lay off the golf courses.... Nope, I don't hear Clyne moaning either....but guaranteed all sportsmen and women suffer from fatigue both mental and physical* * Assuming they are clean. *
Sour Mash Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 No let's face it, Hazard is a freak and your comparison is meaningless. Hazard isn't a "freak" though, lots of top players play twice a week across league, cup, european and international fixtures, no reason for Clyne to be particularly knackered by the end of January.
Whitey Grandad Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Clyne has signed for Liverpool. Thread closed?
ENSKIED Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Thread closed? With this curtain . . . . . http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/450784/Louis-van-Gaal-Nathaniel-Clyne-transfer-news
Saint_Ash Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Thread closed? Not really, Tom isn't in the know, he's just guessing. No doubt it will be done soon though.
SuperSAINT Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Not really, Tom isn't in the know, he's just guessing. No doubt it will be done soon though. Yeah, a bit hard to pass as "ITK" when a fee's been agreed & a player has just had a medical.
rallyboy Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Let's go a bit drastic on this one - young players are getting tired?... They are professional athletes, their careers are short. How about they look after their bodies and then when they retire they can then lie in the street so drunk they wet themselves or stay up all night before a match? Zero tolerance on night life shenanigans for pro athletes - or do the nights out, but play 50 games a season without moaning or a drop in form. And for the people who say, they need to let their hair down. Yeah, but you don't have to have your stomach pumped, get involved in a fight or charged with a sex offence to relax. If you want to be a sportsman, behave like one, if you want to party every night, go work in Tesco and benefit from cheap cider at staff prices. Then you can also live the footballer lifestyle by ****ging slappers behind the bins between shifts.
hypochondriac Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Clyne has signed for Liverpool. Tom we have been through this. You know feck all.
Lighthouse Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Shaw had 4 years left on his contract compared to Clyne's 1 year. That makes a big difference to price. Not to mention Clyne being 24 whilst Shaw was 18.
VectisSaint Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Not to mention Clyne being 24 whilst Shaw was 18. Not to mention Shaw is a lefty while Clyne is only a right footer. Makes a difference you know, premium paid for lefties.
hutch Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Let's go a bit drastic on this one - young players are getting tired?... They are professional athletes, their careers are short. How about they look after their bodies and then when they retire they can then lie in the street so drunk they wet themselves or stay up all night before a match? Zero tolerance on night life shenanigans for pro athletes - or do the nights out, but play 50 games a season without moaning or a drop in form. And for the people who say, they need to let their hair down. Yeah, but you don't have to have your stomach pumped, get involved in a fight or charged with a sex offence to relax. If you want to be a sportsman, behave like one, if you want to party every night, go work in Tesco and benefit from cheap cider at staff prices. Then you can also live the footballer lifestyle by ****ging slappers behind the bins between shifts. ITK?
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Not to mention Clyne being 24 whilst Shaw was 18. Oops quoted wrong post - doh
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Not to mention Shaw is a lefty while Clyne is only a right footer. Makes a difference you know, premium paid for lefties. Surely they should all be two footed.
VectisSaint Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Surely they should all be two footed. True, otherwise they would fall over.
Saintsfan Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Plus now for the front 3 behind the striker or wide 2 and striker options are as follows Sterling, Sturridge, Lallana, Markovic, Balotelli, Lambert, Borini, Ings, Firmino, Ibe and Coutinho So that's a total of 11 first team players for 3-4 postions in the first 11. Obviously one or two might go but still 9-10 for 3-4 postions is far too many to have in a squad. Balotelli, Lambert and Borini will probably be sold. Sterling too depending on Man City
angelman Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 With this curtain . . . . . http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/450784/Louis-van-Gaal-Nathaniel-Clyne-transfer-news 1) Should have just offered more to him and to us. 2) Is the deal done and dusted or can he change and move to Utd? That would be great. Really though, if this is true (operative word being "if"), then why would you choose to go to LFC over MUFC? Starting XI? Money?
Window Cleaner Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 1) Should have just offered more to him and to us. 2) Is the deal done and dusted or can he change and move to Utd? That would be great. Really though, if this is true (operative word being "if"), then why would you choose to go to LFC over MUFC? Starting XI? Money? Van Gaal does not control the transfers at Man U, he may (or may not) have wanted the player but he doesn't make the offers or sign the bank transfers; Utd are obviously being chippy about money just now because they've signed nobody apart from Depay and dutch clubs seem to be a pushover on money. They want everybody for peanuts and we're obviously not going to be pushed around. Van Gaal should take it up with Woodward.
Lighthouse Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Balotelli, Lambert and Borini will probably be sold. Sterling too depending on Man City The trouble is the only club stupid enough to buy Balotelli is infact Liverpool. Is there anyone out there who would match his wages, even if Liverpool gave him away free?
yellow&blue Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 The trouble is the only club stupid enough to buy Balotelli is infact Liverpool. Is there anyone out there who would match his wages, even if Liverpool gave him away free? The same could be said about Osvaldo....
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He has failed medical I heard that last night but assumed it was someone just taking the ****.
Lorne Malvo Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He has failed medical Course he would, no left foot.
St Chalet Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Course he would, no left foot. Couldn't get his ego into the cubicle.
Pancake Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 The trouble is the only club stupid enough to buy Balotelli is infact Liverpool. Is there anyone out there who would match his wages, even if Liverpool gave him away free? *cough* QPR *cough*
angelman Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 This failed medical, is it the same sort of medical that Loic Remy failed, and subsequently signed for Chelsea?
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 This failed medical, is it the same sort of medical that Loic Remy failed, and subsequently signed for Chelsea? But in Remy's case he didn't need to be that fit to sit Chelsea's bench all season
Ed Rooney Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 Source? I know someone in the local psychiatric ward, apparently he was AOK until doctor asked him why he was signing for Liverpool. Nathanial replied for regular champions league football and following that response he has been classed as mental
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 I know someone in the local psychiatric ward, apparently he was AOK until doctor asked him why he was signing for Liverpool. Nathanial replied for regular champions league football and following that response he has been classed as mental
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He has failed medical If true, can you imagine the conversation back at SMS? Clyne, "Hey, Ronnie & Les, I've been thinking it over I'd really love to sign that bumper contract you offered me after all. Liverpool wasn't for me anyway and I'm glad I went up there to confirm those suspicions. If you've got a pen, I'll sign right now... unless you've heard from anyone in Manchester recently???"
Window Cleaner Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 If true, can you imagine the conversation back at SMS? Clyne, "Hey, Ronnie & Les, I've been thinking it over I'd really love to sign that bumper contract you offered me after all. Liverpool wasn't for me anyway and I'm glad I went up there to confirm those suspicions. If you've got a pen, I'll sign right now... unless you've heard from anyone in Manchester recently???" I think it was just part 1 of a 2 part serial joke
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He has failed medical I'm pretty sure that is bollix........................ but part of me hopes it's true just to watch the rather awkward fallout:lol:
Window Cleaner Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 wonder what Clyne would do? Blame Saints for whatever was wrong with him I expect.
SW5 SAINT Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 If that was true, Liverpool would simply negotiate the transfer fee down!
Tom28 Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He hasn't failed the medical. Will be announced tomorrow.
Saint_Ash Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He hasn't failed the medical. Will be announced tomorrow.
CB Fry Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 He hasn't failed the medical. Will be announced tomorrow. I am hearing this also.
doddisalegend Posted 30 June, 2015 Posted 30 June, 2015 wonder what Clyne would do? Beg to sign his new saints contract, followed by a "I always wanted to stay at saints I owe then so much" statement, I would imagine.
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