Saint IQ Posted 8 May, 2015 Posted 8 May, 2015 They've both got loads of money so we'll be able to get that much I reckon or 15m with add ons even with Clyne having 1 year left. Must be more than just Utd wanting his services as well.
hackedoff Posted 8 May, 2015 Posted 8 May, 2015 What we need to do to avoid all this is to fill our team with foreign players, it,s worked well for Newcastle.
Redslo Posted 8 May, 2015 Posted 8 May, 2015 What we need to do to avoid all this is to fill our team with foreign players, it,s worked well for Newcastle. I am confident that Newcastle's problem is not foreign players. After all, they had lots of foreign players when they finished 5th. And Chelsea has lots of foreign players right now. I did think on that previously but they can afford Lukaku's wages and Baines wages, I don't know what they are but I would of thought they'd be above 60k a week easily ? According to the most recent FM 2015 database, these are the weekly salaries in thousands of pounds: Lukaku 80 Baines 70 Barry 60 Lennon 55 McGready 50 Pienaar 50 Jagielka 50 Distin 45 McCarthy 40 Kone 40 Barkley 40 Mirallas 40 Osman 40 That is probably far enough. It seems they pay more than we do at the high end, but not so much that we cannot compete. I would guess they put more money into player salaries at the expense of something else--youth development maybe?
Redslo Posted 9 May, 2015 Posted 9 May, 2015 Jake Cohen, who blogs about Chelsea, posted an interesting blog on the subject of players not signing contract extensions. http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/4/1/8325609/top-footballers-shouldnt-sign-long-term-deals
Wurzel Posted 9 May, 2015 Posted 9 May, 2015 Jake Cohen, who blogs about Chelsea, posted an interesting blog on the subject of players not signing contract extensions. http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2015/4/1/8325609/top-footballers-shouldnt-sign-long-term-deals All makes sense, but under the FFP salary cap rules would clubs be able to offer those mega salaries when picking up the players for nothing?
derry Posted 9 May, 2015 Posted 9 May, 2015 If any of the three won't sign new contracts take the money.
S-Clarke Posted 9 May, 2015 Posted 9 May, 2015 His mind is clearly elsewhere and it's shocking that a professional can let himself drift like this. Really depressing end.
imported_Saint_G Posted 9 May, 2015 Posted 9 May, 2015 Have noticed a drop off in form for Clyne since his latest England call ups but today was just embarrassing. He seemed like a player who didn't want to get injured ahead of a big money move. Constantly stood off players and seemed totally uninterested until the final 10 when he got a bit more interested. If he is going to go, sack him off now and get one of the youngsters in, at least they would play with some heart and commitment.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 Sunday Times reporting Man Utd have raised their offer to £18M.
gregbarrett1984 Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 L.Reed has got to take that! £18m for a player running his contract down! Buy Trippier for 6 to 8m and that is a cracking bit of business.
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 L.Reed has got to take that! £18m for a player running his contract down! Buy Trippier for 6 to 8m and that is a cracking bit of business. Hold out for £20m IMO.
Mr X Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 You could see on his face yesterday that hes no longer a saint, his mind was already at his new club
SuperSAINT Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 You could see on his face yesterday that hes no longer a saint, his mind was already at his new club Expect this to speed up this week as according to RK, we should get the answer about the contract this week.
Mr X Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 Expect this to speed up this week as according to RK, we should get the answer about the contract this week. Thought we had already received our answer and he refused a new contract have we made an improved bid? Either way he isn't going to stay in my opinion
CB Fry Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 You could see on his face yesterday that hes no longer a saint, his mind was already at his new club I believe that's called "projection". The whole team were awful yesterday. Maybe every single one of them wants out? #meltdown
Badger Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 Sunday Times reporting Man Utd have raised their offer to £18M. Hold out for £20m IMO. Hope Chelsea make this into an auction.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 You do have to wonder whether all the contract/transfer speculation regarding Clyne, Wanyama and Morgan has demoralised the team either that or they have simply ran out of steam. I would say Wanyama has looked like his mind is elsewhere since that Arsenal talk surfaced. Fair play to Morgan who has maintained standards throughout even though plainly obvious he sees his future elsewhere.
Golden Balls Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 Clyne was totally unprofessional yesterday and shouldn't play again until he either signs a contract or leaves. I'm very disappointed in him.
shurlock Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 I was looking straight down his touchline and he looked hobbled from the challenge at the start of the second half. That doesnt change the fact that his performances have dropped off significantly since February.
david in sweden Posted 10 May, 2015 Posted 10 May, 2015 (edited) You do have to wonder whether all the contract/transfer speculation regarding Clyne, Wanyama and Morgan has demoralised the team either that or they have simply ran out of steam. I would say Wanyama has looked like his mind is elsewhere since that Arsenal talk surfaced. Fair play to Morgan who has maintained standards throughout even though plainly obvious he sees his future elsewhere. it all looks good when everything is going OK, but if this is the best they can do, then we should seriously consider " new faces ", take the money and run..... Despite all the nice comments, I expect Clyne to go. £18 million sounds like daylight robbery, but with a year on his contract he should go. Next year he can walk away for £0. If Schneiderlin was unhappy last summer, he won't feel any better this summer and at 26 ......his boat (and valuation) will sink next year. Yes everyone says great things about Wanyama...but where is " the player " we saw at the beginning of the season?....He looks only a shadow of his former self. Edited 10 May, 2015 by david in sweden
wanyamaisatank Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 I think I'm getting less bothered about him leaving by the game atm.shame
Sour Mash Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Both Wanyama and Clyne look their minds are elsewhere at the moment. Disappointing from such key players.
david in sweden Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Both Wanyama and Clyne look their minds are elsewhere at the moment. Disappointing from such key players. True, but ambition exists everywhere, but if they want much more than just " a place on richer club's bench " they should consider the moves made by last summer's " defectors " and realise that the grass is not always greener than that at SMS. For those who are disatisfied, the best we can say is Thank you... and goodbye. A new crop of ambitious players (from the Academy.... or the Continent) will appear with a greater enthusiasm to better themselves.
warsash saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Would not be disappointed to see Wanymana go .... overated & only looks to be playing well with Morgan at his side. Get £15 million & elevate Reed to the 1st team.
beatlesaint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Would not be disappointed to see Wanymana go .... overated & only looks to be playing well with Morgan at his side. Get £15 million & elevate Reed to the 1st team. Would probably have agreed with you had I read this a year ago, this season he has been by and large fantastic though.
pangy Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Morgan looks average at times without Wanyama,Reed looks like he has potential but at times he is like a headless chicken running around chasing everything,with more senior games he will curb that hopefully
Batman Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Would not be disappointed to see Wanymana go .... overated & only looks to be playing well with Morgan at his side. Get £15 million & elevate Reed to the 1st team. what a ridiculous statement. after a couple of bad games
SarniaSaint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 L.Reed has got to take that! £18m for a player running his contract down! Buy Trippier for 6 to 8m and that is a cracking bit of business. Yeah 18m all cash would be great........but lets get a bidding war going with Chelsea...... maybe 20m..........Byram from Leeds would be cheaper.....
John Boy Saint Posted 11 May, 2015 Posted 11 May, 2015 Give that nipper Bevis Mugabi a crack. He looks a bit handy.
doddisalegend Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Give that nipper Bevis Mugabi a crack. He looks a bit handy. Going forward looks shaky defending though I think he'd get slaughtered in the PL
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Transfer News @FootieWriter Rumours that Clyne has signed a new contract at Southampton are starting to surface. #saintsfc
Roger Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Would not be disappointed to see Wanymana go .... overated & only looks to be playing well with Morgan at his side. Get £15 million & elevate Reed to the 1st team. I think he's underrated. We beat arsenal when he was playing without Morgan. Bizarre view.
iansums Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Transfer News @FootieWriter Rumours that Clyne has signed a new contract at Southampton are starting to surface. #saintsfc That would be a turn up.
saint97 Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Would not be disappointed to see Wanymana go .... overated & only looks to be playing well with Morgan at his side. Get £15 million & elevate Reed to the 1st team. Ahaha deluded.
Matthew Le God Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Give that nipper Bevis Mugabi a crack. He looks a bit handy. Going forward looks shaky defending though I think he'd get slaughtered in the PL He is really a centre back, he is playing right back because Flannigan is injured long term.
SuperSAINT Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Nathaniel Clyne's deadline to give #SaintsFC a decision on his future has passed, but I understand contract negotiations have reopened Simon Peach @SimonPeach Talks had stalled with Clyne so the reopening of negotiations positive for #SaintsFC. Interested to hear what Koeman says on Thursday.
S-Clarke Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 So, is there a new deadline now? - So basically, what I can kind of sort of extract from that is that he's given us his decision and he wants to stay, albeit with slightly altered terms. To be fair, Utd and co have probably run a mile after his performances these past 6 weeks.
Sour Mash Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Nathaniel Clyne's deadline to give #SaintsFC a decision on his future has passed, but I understand contract negotiations have reopened Simon Peach @SimonPeach Talks had stalled with Clyne so the reopening of negotiations positive for #SaintsFC. Interested to hear what Koeman says on Thursday. Something doesn't tally here, as so many have confirmed its a done deal with United?
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Simon Peach @SimonPeach Nathaniel Clyne's deadline to give #SaintsFC a decision on his future has passed, but I understand contract negotiations have reopened Simon Peach @SimonPeach Talks had stalled with Clyne so the reopening of negotiations positive for #SaintsFC. Interested to hear what Koeman says on Thursday. Thought Koeman had previously said they have offered the maximum contract.
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Thought Koeman had previously said they have offered the maximum contract. May be to do with minimum release clause etc for CL clubs, bonuses etc.
Donatello Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Give that nipper Bevis Mugabi a crack. He looks a bit handy. Give him a crack....and then when it turns out that he's inevitably not ready...then what? Best to have experienced first-teamers players that can be supplanted if the talent below (I.e. youth players) exists, than start with untested youth players supported by mediocre backup (I.e. players who sign knowing they're backup).
Dig Dig Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Something doesn't tally here, as so many have confirmed its a done deal with United? Probably agent posturing to keep interested clubs on their toes/force a firm bid for him even if his agent has already agreed something in principle with the likes of Utd.
SuperSAINT Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Thought Koeman had previously said they have offered the maximum contract. We shall see. If Utd are in for him, he'll leave. If they (or any other champs league club) isn't in for him, he'll probably sign a contract with us.
Donatello Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Playing Devil's advocate, if (on the small chance) he does sign, what affect will this have on Schneiderlin, if any? Would it create the possibility of a future in which he would stay? I.e. would the perception of maintaining a cohesive unit, and adding to said unit (rather than reducing/maintaining status quo) be enough?
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 (edited) Expect us to make maximum effort on Clyne, he's a young player and we'd owe Crystal Palace a bit, we have no evident replacement and are there all that many competent right backs about . Form has fallen away a bit of late so perhaps Utd won't be all that interested, perhaps they'll go for Trippier instead or Van Der Wiel or Aurier or one of the others we're linked with from time to time. Can't see many other 'top' clubs in the market for a right back just now. Edited 12 May, 2015 by Window Cleaner
Donatello Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Expect us to make maximum effort on Clyne, he's a young player and we'd owe Crystal Palace a bit, we have no evident replacement and are there all that many competent right backs about . Form has fallen away a bit of late so perhaps Utd won't be all that interested, perhaps they'll go for Trippier instead or Van Der Wiel or Aurier or one of the others we're linked with from time to time. Can't see many other 'top' clubs in the market for a right back just now. Do you think he'll (re)sign? (on an instinctive/gut-level)
Window Cleaner Posted 12 May, 2015 Posted 12 May, 2015 Do you think he'll (re)sign? (on an instinctive/gut-level) I think he might actually but that's only because I can't see any of the really big name sides being interested in the player that I've seen for the last few games. We'll have to make an effort on money though.
SuperSAINT Posted 13 May, 2015 Posted 13 May, 2015 ALVES CLOSE TO MAN UTD DEAL? Manchester United are very close to confirming a deal for Barcelona right-back Dani Alves, according to Catalan newspaper Sport. The paper report that the player will snub Barca after United offered him a contract that was ‘far superior’ to the one on the table from the Spanish club. The 32-year-old is available on a free transfer as his contract at the Nou Camp expires this summer.
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