cellone Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Blue Line and all of that. Big kick in the arse today. Next time, fkn next time!
Goatboy Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida Bertrand Wanyama Morgan Tadic Mane Pelle
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Three points please. Nothing else matters.
Dalek2003 Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida Bertrand Wanyama Morgan Tadic Mane Pelle Looks good.I would put Long in for Pelle.
Saints foreva Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 If Toby is back then I hope we play 3-5-2. Get the wing backs bombing forward. Anything other than a win is a ****e result.
Goatboy Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Looks good.I would put Long in for Pelle. I thought about that but would bring him on as sub for whichever of the front three needs a rest.
benjii Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 ---------------Forster--------------- ---------Font--Toby--Yoshi Clyne ------------------------Bertrand -------------Vic----Morgan------------ ---------------Djuricic------------------- --------------Pelle-----Mane---------- KD, Gardos, Reed, Davis, Tadic, Long, Elia It's interesting, actually, with Toby back if we do go 352, people are now battling for a place on the bench. No JWP or Targett in that squad and, if Jay Rod was fit, probably no Long or Elia.
Wiggles31 Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 2 up front being Mane and Pelle. Pelle needs to find some form asap too.
the saint in winchester Posted 22 February, 2015 Posted 22 February, 2015 Forster Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida Clyne Wanyama Morgan Bertrand Djuricic Mane Long
Saint Paul C Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 I think that we're playing way too defensively minded in the structure of the team for these types of games and need to let the more creative attacking players run free Forster Clyne - Fonte - Toby - Bertrand ---------- Big Vic --------- Mane - Djuricic - Morgan - Elia ---- Pelle------ Give Mane and Elia freedom to cause havoc, use Djuricic in a #10 type role and let Morgan do what he wants. Philosophy for the game = attack, attack, attack... no f'ing about Subs - KD, Yoshi, Reed, Long, Tadic plan to bring on both Long and Tadic so let Mane, Djuricic and Elia run their legs off..
alpine_saint Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 Yes. We need to get back on the horse PDQ.
Webby Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 Won't be an easy game, and if we can't score, it doesn't matter who we play. What frustrates me is that we create nothing from corners and free kicks.
the saint in winchester Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 Need Tadic back in. Why. When I see him about to come on, I go all
simo Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 City beat Liverpool we win it's back to 4 points again , But that won't be mentioned of course!
Tony F Posted 23 February, 2015 Posted 23 February, 2015 Need Tadic back in. ONLY if he can find some form surely? He's barely a shadow of the player we saw in the first 1/3 of the season these days. Pretty much lost all his flicks, tricks n stuff --- or he's been found out and marked out of the game as a result.
Batman Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 (edited) I'd drop Pelle and JWP. Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Morgan Vic Djuricic Tadic Long Mane Davis, yoshida, reed, JWP, Elia, Davis, Pelle Hopefully, Pelle scores and everyone will predictably call me a **** for doubting him but at the moment he is awful One thing, I really can't see how Lallana and Lambert of last season are seen an inferior to tadic and Pelle. They both seem to be running out of steam Edited 24 February, 2015 by Batman
ericofarabia Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Don't panic folks ... it's Saturday, it's 3 o clock .... it's The Only True Football Match Kick Off Time. So far this season at this hallowed hour kick off time ... P10 W8 D1 L1 F23 A3. It's in the bag.
eddie Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 I'd drop Pelle and JWP. Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Morgan Vic Djuricic Tadic Long Mane Davis, yoshida, reed, JWP, Elia, Davis, Pelle Hopefully, Pelle scores and everyone will predictably call me a **** for doubting him but at the moment he is awful One thing, I really can't see how Lallana and Lambert of last season are seen an inferior to tadic and Pelle. They both seem to be running out of steam Not at all. In hindsight had we dropped him for QPR/hammers game I think it might have done him good. At the very least we wouldn't have missed him for those couple
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 I'd drop Pelle and JWP. Forster Clyne Toby Fonte Bertrand Morgan Vic Djuricic Tadic Long Mane Davis, yoshida, reed, JWP, Elia, Davis, Pelle Hopefully, Pelle scores and everyone will predictably call me a **** for doubting him but at the moment he is awful One thing, I really can't see how Lallana and Lambert of last season are seen an inferior to tadic and Pelle. They both seem to be running out of steam We would miss Pelle's link up play perhaps more than you think but I agree it's probably time to give him a rest
Bearsy Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida Bertrand Wanyama Morgan Tadic Mane Pelle I think ur bang on the money with this line up, gb
corky morris Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Really looking forward to this one. I can leave at 1.30pm & get there after the kids football!!! Id go Fraser Fonte, Alderweireld, Yoshida Clyne, Bertrand Wanyama, Morgan, Reed Elia Pelle Subs - Davis, JWP. Djuricic, Mane, Tadic, Long, Targett WBA look to get in behind & use the channels, typical Pullis side. We nee to press high & be patient. Pelle is the best CF we have, to drop him would be a mistake imho. Can see a 2-1 Saints win!
austsaint Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Really looking forward to this one. I can leave at 1.30pm & get there after the kids football!!! Id go Fraser Fonte, Alderweireld, Yoshida Clyne, Bertrand Wanyama, Morgan, Reed Elia Pelle Subs - Davis, JWP. Djuricic, Mane, Tadic, Long, Targett WBA look to get in behind & use the channels, typical Pullis side. We nee to press high & be patient. Pelle is the best CF we have, to drop him would be a mistake imho. Can see a 2-1 Saints win! Corky, are you expecting Mane to be late for lunch again? I'm sure he will start.
rick1976.4.38 Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 dont think this will be easy,pullis has got them organised now, want 3 points to get the gap back between us and Liverpool,as they've man city. just cant see us scoring and that's a big problem for us at the moment. coys
Saint Pete Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Yoshida Bertrand Wanyama Morgan Tadic Mane Pelle This is what I would go with if everyone's fit. We need to get Tadic back on song and that may be the best formation to do it?
Sour Mash Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 This is what I would go with if everyone's fit. We need to get Tadic back on song and that may be the best formation to do it? We don't need three Centre Backs if we're also starting with Schneiderlin and Wanyama.
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 This is what I would go with if everyone's fit. We need to get Tadic back on song and that may be the best formation to do it? I think we saw the best from Tadic when he was predominantly on the left. He did have good games when he was deployed on the right, but he was much more threatening and 'cute' when coming from the left as it was his natural side, the downturn in form has coincided with his shift to the right (to accommodate Mane at the time). I know it seems the fashion at the moment to have wingers on their opposite sides so they can cut in etc, but I think a team is more threatening when you've got a natural left sider/right sider bombing down the flank and whipping a cross in. Bertrand is a great outlet for us on the left because of that. And I think when you're struggling for goals and struggling to break teams down, there's no harm going back to basics for a bit.
Saint Garrett Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Nil Nil written all over this one. Agree. Although I think they've got a great chance of scoring. They'll be dangerous. Would go with: ------------------Forster -------Alderweireld Fonte Yoshi------------ Clyne--------------------------------Bertrand ----------Morgan----Wanyama------------- ------------------Djuricic----------------------- --------------Pelle----Mane----------------- Get someone in and around Pelle to give him a helping hand. Our away record has been excellent this season, and at least they won't park the bus. Praying for a win to get back on track. COYS.
WealdSaint Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Pelle is an important outlet for the long ball and is a useful extra centre back at set pieces. I think we only dare drop him when Sam Gallagher is fully ready.
Saint Pete Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 We don't need three Centre Backs if we're also starting with Schneiderlin and Wanyama. But the advantage is it releases Clyne and Bertrand to really bomb on and attack down the flanks. The onus would also be on one of MS and VW to be a bit more forward thinking with the extra insurance behind them.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Why would Koeman revert back to 5-3-2 when we have won 5 away games on the spin? Extra space when playing away helps. Its home games he needs to apply a new system which involves more players being in box during attacks. Keep the same system but change the line up: --------------------forster------------------------ clyne fonte yoshida bertrand ------------wanyama morgan---------------- Djrucic Mane Tadic -----------------------Long----------------------
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 But the advantage is it releases Clyne and Bertrand to really bomb on and attack down the flanks. The onus would also be on one of MS and VW to be a bit more forward thinking with the extra insurance behind them. They both bomb on considerably when we have Vic and Morgan covering them when they play as a part of a back four, so the idea of having them bomb on and two of Elia, Mane, Tadic, or Djuricic also attacking high up the pitch is probably more appealing if we want to be attacking. We don't play with any creativity in the middle of the park in the Koeman system. We'll know what West Brom will play like as Pulis has been there well over a month now. They'll do all the basics, battle hard, and try to wear us down with functional football. Our defensive organisation and resilience should stand us in a good position to deal with that. So then it comes down to what sort of game we want to play. Do we want to control the ball and see if we can tease West Brom open, or do we let them come onto us and hit them on the break with our pace down the wings? For me I would go with: Forster Clyne Fonte Alderweireld Bertrand Wanyama Schneiderlin Davis Mane Elia Pelle Keep it tight in the middle and hit them with pace out wide.
Twiggy Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Forster Fonte Alderwield Yoshi Clyne Bertrand Wanyama Morgan Djrucic Mane Pelle Bench Davis, Davis, JWP, Long, Elia, Gardos
verlaine1979 Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 We don't play with any creativity in the middle of the park in the Koeman system Maybe it would be better if we did?
lloydie Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Maybe it would be better if we did? i'll let Koeman know. Thanks
Window Cleaner Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Maybe it would be better if we did? Well I could certainly do with a bit less of the wellying forward from our keeper/Cbs.
Saint_Ash Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 --------------------forster------------------------ clyne-------fonte------Tobes---------bertrand ------------Big Vic-------Morgan------------- ------Elia---------Davis----------Mane------- ---------------------Pelle---------------------- With loads of options on the bench
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 (edited) --------------------forster------------------------ clyne-------fonte------Tobes---------bertrand ------------Big Vic-------Morgan------------- ------Elia---------Davis----------Mane------- ---------------------Pelle---------------------- With loads of options on the bench That team just looks much better, that spine of Toby, Morgan, Vic is massive for us. Then as you said, we'd likely have Djuricic, Tadic, Long, Gardos, Yoshida, JWP on the bench. Then you've got the kids beyond that - Reed, Targett, Hasketh, Gallagher, Isgrove. The squad is looking a hell of a lot better and I'm still of the opinion that we have more depth than we did last year, once everyone is fit. We've got near enough a full starting 11 and bench of full internationals. That's impressive. Edited 24 February, 2015 by S-Clarke
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Then you've got the kids beyond that - Targett, Hasketh, Gallagher, Isgrove. The squad is looking a hell of a lot better and I'm still of the opinion that we have more depth than we did last year, once everyone is fit. We've got near enough a full starting 11 and bench of full internationals. That's impressive. I think we can only say that now because of the two January acquisitions. Before then I'd say the squad was no more stronger than last year. Take Elia and Djuricic out of the equation then that would likely mean Tadic starts and the bench would be Long, Gardos, Yoshida, JWP, and two kids.
verlaine1979 Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 i'll let Koeman know. Thanks I suspect the fact that he went out in January to acquire a creative #10 probably means he already knows.
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Well I could certainly do with a bit less of the wellying forward from our keeper/Cbs. Sometimes that's better than the fannying about at the back which can lead to mistakes and goals. In last Sunday's conditions we were getting more success with the forward lumps, although I agree that it needs to be mixed up a bit.
simo Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 I think (timekeeping allowing) we need to get Mane back in that central role playing just off Pelle that was really working before he got injured (coincidently our last home win?) and subsequently went to the Acon !
Kingsland Red Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Koeman will remember Olsonn totally dominated Pelle in the 0-0 at St Marys and we were toothless. A nippier forward line is required at The Hawthorns.
S-Clarke Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Koeman will remember Olsonn totally dominated Pelle in the 0-0 at St Marys and we were toothless. A nippier forward line is required at The Hawthorns. Olsson isn't playing for them these days. Likely to be Dawson and Lescott.
Restark19 Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 ----------Forster Clyne Fonte Toby Bertrand Schneiderlin Wanyama Davis ----------- Tadic ----------Mane ----------Long
Wiggles31 Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Want to see Tadic given a run in the team again. He has had plenty of time to return to full fitness. Bertrand returning is also huge. This game will show if we are going to wimper out or come back fighting. I trust the latter in the the capable hands of Koeman. Would like a return to 2 strikers being Long (against his old side) and Pelle or even Mane for Pelle. Be that via a 3-5-2 formation or something different.
Toadhall Saint Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 3 points required. Back to winning ways fingers crossed but for sure pulls will have them well drilled.
Orange Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 If anyone has a spare ticket, drop me a message. Be much appreciated.
CWD Posted 24 February, 2015 Posted 24 February, 2015 Forster Fonte Toby Clyne Wanyama Schniederlin Bertrand JWP Mane Tadic Pelle I agree with everyone else. Got to go all out for goals. I think Tadic needs to start as although he has been poor of late, we need him and Pelle to start clicking again. It's rare of me to not put Davis in a starting line up but JWP has far more assists this season, and we shouldn't need Davis' protection what with Morgan and Vic back. Edit: 12 players woops
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