Wiggles31 Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Can't see a thread that has been done. Huge huge huge game. Need a win for the top 4 push. They are 4 points behind now and hitting some good form. Should be an open game. A decent break for the players and should be a near fully fit side. Toby and Morgan back in for sure. Would maybe start Tadic and JWP for Elia and Reed. Need to improve drastically in our final third. Can see this game having goals both ends. Liverpool have two games before this game which is good.
cellone Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 I'm not so confident about this one . But as you say they have two games and we have a rest. Trouble is this can work either way which is why the not so confident.
andoru Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Massive game, for both maintaining our league position and our moral high ground. I doubt too many of us could stomach the team that did the most to try and ruin us in the summer beating us on our own patch. I have an awful feeling Lallana is going to score and then not celebrate out of so-called respect, just to put us fans in an awkward position.
Saint_clark Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 "You're not one of us, you're not one of uuuus, f*ck off Lallana, you're not one of us". And to YNWA... Lovren, Lovren You're a c*nt, you're a c*nt, and you're always be a c*nt... etc.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Clyne speaking to the Daily Mail ahead of this one... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-2951612/Nathaniel-Clyne-looking-consolidate-four-place-win-against-Liverpool-Southampton-chase-Champions-League.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
andoru Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 "You're not one of us, you're not one of uuuus, f*ck off Lallana, you're not one of us". And to YNWA... Lovren, Lovren You're a c*nt, you're a c*nt, and you're always be a c*nt... etc. If Lovren doesn't play, which he probably won't … Why my daddy no play? Why my daddy no play? Dejan Lovren Dejan Lovren Why my daddy no play? Print that tweet of his daughter watching the Real Madrid match to go along with it as a banner.
Appy Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Wouldn't surprise me if any of our 3 old boys didn't start.
Roger Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Can't see a thread that has been done. Huge huge huge game. Need a win for the top 4 push. They are 4 points behind now and hitting some good form. Should be an open game. A decent break for the players and should be a near fully fit side. Toby and Morgan back in for sure. Would maybe start Tadic and JWP for Elia and Reed. Need to improve drastically in our final third. Can see this game having goals both ends. Liverpool have two games before this game which is good. Why ward prowse for reed? Reeds form much better tbh. Morgan will come in for reed.
70's Mike Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 more confident of this one than i was the west ham game, Liverpool will come to play which helps us Bring on the Scousers
Sour Mash Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Goes without saying - massive game and I'd absolutely love to win this. They've hit some good form and do look a threat going forward. Got to be a cracking atmosphere for this one, the crowd can make that little bit of difference. On the basis that Targett is back, the back 5 pick themselves. Bertrand is still a big miss for us though. Wanyama and Schneiderlin definitely play, as does Pelle and Mane upfront. The rest is hard to call. Davis/Elia/Tadic/JWP into two positions - you could make an argument for any of them.
Greedyfly Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Are both Morgan and Toby likely to be fit for this one? Because that will make a huge difference for sure.
trousers Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Making favourable assumptions on injuries, my team would be.... Forster Clyne - Fonte - Alderweireld - Targett Davis - Wanyama - Schneiderlin Mane - F. Djuričić Pelle Subs: K. Davis, Yoshida, Gardos, Reed, JWP, Tadic, Elia
Jack Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Making favourable assumptions on injuries, my team would be.... Forster Clyne - Fonte - Alderweireld - Targett Davis - Wanyama - Schneiderlin Mane - F. Djuričić Pelle Subs: K. Davis, Yoshida, Gardos, Reed, JWP, Tadic, Elia Elia for Djuricic and I'd agree with the rest.
david in sweden Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Wouldn't surprise me if any of our 3 old boys didn't start. my thoughts, too. Although Lalllana gets some game time neither Lambert or Lovren are even " regulars " on the bench. I wonder of Rodgers is considering the " old boy factor ", ......or will simply leave them in the stands.
Avenue Saint Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 ..................................Forster Clyne - Fonte - Alderweireld - Targett Wanyama - Schneiderlin Elia Tadic Mane ....................................Pelle Subs: K. Davis, Yoshida, Gardos, Reed, Davis, JWP, Djurcic.
thesaint78 Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Liverpool with 2 legs of Besiktas Europa league tie sandwiching this game. Hope that tires them out / takes some of their focus off of this one. Did Gerrard not pick up an injury v Spurs? Could be missing or rested to focus on cup games.
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Be really gut wrenching if we lost this game not just because of the recent history between the clubs but the fact we should be far fresher than them given their fixture schedule. Rodgers hasnt changed his line up much at all of late, generally picks from the same 13/14 players to start plus they have two games coming up before they play us. They play Besiktas at home on the Thursday. The key is having Toby back to help deal with Liverpool's pace in attack. On the flip side there defense is very static and slow so likes of Mane, Elia and Djuričić can exploit that. Morgan and Vic should be able to dominate the midfield.
VectisSaint Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Liverpool with 2 legs of Besiktas Europa league tie sandwiching this game. Hope that tires them out / takes some of their focus off of this one. Did Gerrard not pick up an injury v Spurs? Could be missing or rested to focus on cup games. They're better without old man Gerrard anyway, so not really good news.
Saints foreva Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Can't see us winning this. Lallana is bound to have a good game and will probably score.
SuperSAINT Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Did Gerrard not pick up an injury v Spurs? Could be missing or rested to focus on cup games. Pretty sure I read a report which said he could be out for 3 weeks. Think Lucas is missing too, so they might move Emre Can up into midfield.
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Liverpool have 2 games before we play them, this will be a factor - given that Gerrard and Lucas are also out, so they can't rotate as they'd have liked to. It's a game I've looked forward to for weeks. I really sense a good thing about this match, I reckon we'll be totally up for this. Liverpool are good going forward but suspect, as we all know, at the back. Lucas has been a key reason in their return to 'defensive solidity' (as well as the dropping of Lovren ) - so it was no surprise to see Spurs look so lively against them. I think Emre Can will drop into midfield, almost guaranteed, with one of Kolo Toure or Lovren coming into the 'back 3'. Jordan Ibe will probably continue as a wing back, and although he's talented, we've got players with more experience who can hopefully give him a very nervy night. Let's keep him and Moreno occupied defensively, and we will have nullified a lot of their attacking threat and pace. What annoys me about the media is how Liverpool are always revolutionary, always amazing. They had an horrific start to the season, they've picked up since they've had a run of what you'd call ''easier games'' and surprise surprise, Brendan Rogers is being called a tactical genius for stumbling over a formation. Just like he was this revolutionist last season or something. No, he just had Luis Suarez. They're a decent enough side and a threat, but this will be their toughest away day for a good while. I'm confident.
Mowgli Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Www"You're not one of us, you're not one of uuuus, f*ck off Lallana, you're not one of us". And to YNWA... Lovren, Lovren You're a c*nt, you're a c*nt, and you're always be a c*nt... etc. Classy....
Mattio Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Heart says 0-0 head says 0-2, either way can't see us winning this.
The9 Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Gerrard having a hamstring scan, Lucas is out for months. Their 3 at the back is the system our wide men is designed to take apart, and with Schneiderlin and Alderweireld hopefully back, we should be solid against their re-Sturridge'd up attack. Sod's law that we're going to be pretty much the only team he plays against twice in the League this season, but left back, Long and Rodriguez (and Mayuka ) aside we should be back to full strength. May even have a striker who has scored in the Prem before on the bench now Gallagher's getting Dev Squad games. I think we'll pick Yoshida at left back, not sure Targett's got enough experience for this one yet.
Sour Mash Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Gerrard having a hamstring scan, Lucas is out for months. Their 3 at the back is the system our wide men is designed to take apart, and with Schneiderlin and Alderweireld hopefully back, we should be solid against their re-Sturridge'd up attack. Sod's law that we're going to be pretty much the only team he plays against twice in the League this season, but left back, Long and Rodriguez (and Mayuka ) aside we should be back to full strength. May even have a striker who has scored in the Prem before on the bench now Gallagher's getting Dev Squad games. I think we'll pick Yoshida at left back, not sure Targett's got enough experience for this one yet. Targett played at home to Chelsea already, I'd expect him to be the first choice ahead of Yoshida if fully recovered.
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Gerrard having a hamstring scan, Lucas is out for months. Their 3 at the back is the system our wide men is designed to take apart, and with Schneiderlin and Alderweireld hopefully back, we should be solid against their re-Sturridge'd up attack. Sod's law that we're going to be pretty much the only team he plays against twice in the League this season, but left back, Long and Rodriguez (and Mayuka ) aside we should be back to full strength. May even have a striker who has scored in the Prem before on the bench now Gallagher's getting Dev Squad games. I think we'll pick Yoshida at left back, not sure Targett's got enough experience for this one yet. We lacked serious balance on the left side with Yoshida there. Although he did a good shift, our 'style' requires the full backs to get involved in the attacking area's. Yoshida was required to do that and it didn't really work, what with the additional requirement for Elia to provide slightly more protection due to his lack of pace. We did miss a natrual left back there, totally. I think we'd have looked a lot more fluid with Bretrand.
SaintTex Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 We lacked serious balance on the left side with Yoshida there. Although he did a good shift, our 'style' requires the full backs to get involved in the attacking area's. Yoshida was required to do that and it didn't really work, what with the additional requirement for Elia to provide slightly more protection due to his lack of pace. We did miss a natrual left back there, totally. I think we'd have looked a lot more fluid with Bretrand.Yep, while Yoshida has done all that he has been asked defensively on the left, we really miss the offensive threat and creativity that Bertrand can provides in the LB role. Don't take this as an insult to Yoshida. He has exceed my expectations this season and been an outstanding team player.
Baird of the land Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 I'd go for Forster Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Targett Morgan Vic Davis Tadic Mane Pelle Subs Davis, Toby, JWP, Elia, Reed, Djurcic, Gardos The Toby/Yoshida is the only one i'm really 50/50 on, just cause Yoshida's played well and Toby's been out for a while. After the way we've played in recent week's i'm not particularly confident. Just hoping we can step back up and expose the weaknesses in the Liverpool team, that are there to be exploited.
thesaint78 Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 No Chance of Long being fit for this then? Thought 5 weeks was the prognosis when he got injured on Jan 24th. Liverpool game would be 4 weeks later so maybe a possible if his recovery is ahead of schedule?
Batman Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 (edited) Forster Clyne Fonte Toby Targett Vic Morgan Davis Tadic Pelle Mane Our recent home form has been poor and this will be a huge test Edited 13 February, 2015 by Batman
Saints Fan Dan Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 I will love it if we beat them, love it!
verlaine1979 Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Not a terribly high standard, but Djuricic looked good on the ball in the U21 game yesterday. A couple of times he weaved around a defender in close quarters, creating overloads, which neither Davis nor JWP have the ability to do. Obviously that's a riskier manoeuvre than checking back and recycling it through the CBs, but as Scholes' said in his assessment of Man U on the BBC website today, if you don't risk the ball in attack, you don't score a lot of goals.
Leicestersaint Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 I will love it if we beat them, love it! I will love it too. I think we have a good chance but we are not currently firing on all cylinders and the last two home games have been hugely disappointing in terms of our inability to shoot at the goal! I feel very nervous about it but hope to be celebrating wildly at SMS on 22 February.
fanimal Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 We are due a home win, simple; due a bit of luck, simple; Pelle is bound to score again somewhen, simple. We March On!
AdrianC Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 (edited) Pelle is bound to score again somewhen, simple. Exactly. Every game without a goal is a game closer to him scoring again. I realise optimism is bad form and frowned upon on Saintsweb so my apologies in advance. Edited 13 February, 2015 by AdrianC
austsaint Posted 13 February, 2015 Posted 13 February, 2015 Yep, while Yoshida has done all that he has been asked defensively on the left, we really miss the offensive threat and creativity that Bertrand can provides in the LB role. Don't take this as an insult to Yoshida. He has exceed my expectations this season and been an outstanding team player. Agree with this, though young Targett doesn't get forward that much (yet) either. Elia has to start on the left to provide the speed and offensive threat.
captainchris Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 There seems to be a complete obsession with playing Pelle on here... Unless the coaches seriously get at him to change the lazy, predictable way he plays with back to goal standing right in front of his marker like a statue where he offers no threat... He needs to be told to change the way he plays. He has to FACE the opponents goal and make runs dragging the defence around. Our coaches need to be analysing the players and games much more thoroughly. IF we allow this style of his to continue the least we can do is get our players around him when the ball is humped to him with the regularity it is! Fluidity is lacking with the current 'system' and Pelle is a large part of the issue.... I hope we see something a lot different against Liverpool and the coaches start working out what is happening.... If Pelle is not doing as he is told or can't then we might as well play with a smaller more mobile player there who can face the direction of play, create space and lose their marker....
Batman Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 There seems to be a complete obsession with playing Pelle on here... Unless the coaches seriously get at him to change the lazy, predictable way he plays with back to goal standing right in front of his marker like a statue where he offers no threat... He needs to be told to change the way he plays. He has to FACE the opponents goal and make runs dragging the defence around. Our coaches need to be analysing the players and games much more thoroughly. IF we allow this style of his to continue the least we can do is get our players around him when the ball is humped to him with the regularity it is! Fluidity is lacking with the current 'system' and Pelle is a large part of the issue.... I hope we see something a lot different against Liverpool and the coaches start working out what is happening.... If Pelle is not doing as he is told or can't then we might as well play with a smaller more mobile player there who can face the direction of play, create space and lose their marker.... I think a pretty static pelle will be easy pickings for sakho/skrtel
sadoldgit Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 Gutted that Lovren has been bombed out. Would have loved to see him shown up but hey ho.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 WBA show how to score against the hammers! hope we are training hard on our finishing over this break!
Roger Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 Forster Clyne fonte Toby targett Vic morgan Davis tadic Pelle mane
BARCELONASAINT Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 West Brom have the idea....when the goal is in sight bloody well shoot!!!!.....c'mon Saints, as much as i love Barcelona and the way they walk the ball into the net we are Saints not bloody Barcelona.....SHOOT!!!
simo Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 I'd go the same as batman and Roger, save Elia for his pace second half ! Anyone know if we are going away team building ?
Sour Mash Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 I'd go the same as batman and Roger, save Elia for his pace second half ! Anyone know if we are going away team building ? Players are still around Southampton this weekend, so I assume not. My mate has just spotted Elia going into M&S in West Quay
Matthew Le God Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 Anyone know if we are going away team building ? Koeman said they will after the Palace game.
TheCholulaKid Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 There seems to be a complete obsession with playing Pelle on here... Unless the coaches seriously get at him to change the lazy, predictable way he plays with back to goal standing right in front of his marker like a statue where he offers no threat... He needs to be told to change the way he plays. He has to FACE the opponents goal and make runs dragging the defence around. Our coaches need to be analysing the players and games much more thoroughly. IF we allow this style of his to continue the least we can do is get our players around him when the ball is humped to him with the regularity it is! Fluidity is lacking with the current 'system' and Pelle is a large part of the issue.... I hope we see something a lot different against Liverpool and the coaches start working out what is happening.... If Pelle is not doing as he is told or can't then we might as well play with a smaller more mobile player there who can face the direction of play, create space and lose their marker.... What a crock of ****. Completely abandoning the system (which has us sitting 4th in February) for one that we have never played before in one of the biggest games of our season doesn't strike me as a sensible option. But, you know, if Pelle's not scoring he must be ****, right? Although losing this game won't be the disaster many on here will make out, it is clearly a massive game. Aside from the league position/ex-player issue the biggest motivation for wanting to do them for me is their **** of a manager and his 'no sympathy' comments about us last summer.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 Can see us losing this one - disliking the 'Pool and everything they stand for is not enough - we've got to score goals to beat a team like them and we're not doing that. It's going to be 1-3 and a really big wake-up call...the start of the slide down to 7th? Maybe.
Jonnyboy Posted 14 February, 2015 Posted 14 February, 2015 Yep, while Yoshida has done all that he has been asked defensively on the left, we really miss the offensive threat and creativity that Bertrand can provides in the LB role. Don't take this as an insult to Yoshida. He has exceed my expectations this season and been an outstanding team player. Yoshida set up the winner at QPR.
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