beatlesaint Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 So on my way to St Mary's last night from the railway station through town I was stopped by three people who were intent on getting money out of people. The first one was a woman in her mid thirties who I have seen stop people before. Apparently she needed £2 to get a bus to the Hospital as she was pregnant and needed a scan (at 6.30 in the evening). I was even invited to watch her get on the relevant bus The second was a guy who thought my Saints shirt was either Sheff Utd or Man Utd cos "it was the same colours" but could I spare a couple of quid for a coffee anyway The third was a guy near Bargates who wondered if I could spare £2 for something to eat and a coffee........he was a short man but no word of a lie he had to be at least 18 stone ! He was bloody massive and clearly not someone who went hungry very often ! So is this a regular thing in Southampton or were they out in force cos they knew there was a game last night ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Apologies if you were inconvenienced by those less fortunate as they got up from the concrete floor to ask for a bit of help as you waddled to the game that likely cost you £30 odd quid or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I pay them out if they give me Truth but not if they give me Lies. If the first Woman had said, I need £2 cos I've spent all my benefits money on fags, I would have paid her out. If the second guy had said, I don't give a f*ck about you or what dumb club you support, but can you give me money to buy Special Brew, I would have paid him out. If the third man had said, I am a feckless fat loser and my greed outstrips my income, can you give me money for chips, I would have paid him out too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 12 February, 2015 Author Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Apologies if you were inconvenienced by those less fortunate as they got up from the concrete floor to ask for a bit of help as you waddled to the game that likely cost you £30 odd quid or more. missed the point you gormless **** havent you - they were not genuine homeless or needy people, they were trying it on................unless that woman has genuinely been preganat for the past 3 years ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Tell them to f*** off and get a job. I think the direct debit I have with Shelter gives me the right... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Tell them to f*** off and get a job. I think the direct debit I have with Shelter gives me the right... How much do they pay you to not kick the tramps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Tell them to f*** off and get a job. I think the direct debit I have with Shelter gives me the right... Wow, that's a new theory I've not come across before. Very generously giving money to charity gives you permission to be a wa*ker in the real world. If only charity advertising people had access to this new insight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 So on my way to St Mary's last night from the railway station through town I was stopped by three people who were intent on getting money out of people. The first one was a woman in her mid thirties who I have seen stop people before. Apparently she needed £2 to get a bus to the Hospital as she was pregnant and needed a scan (at 6.30 in the evening). I was even invited to watch her get on the relevant bus The second was a guy who thought my Saints shirt was either Sheff Utd or Man Utd cos "it was the same colours" but could I spare a couple of quid for a coffee anyway The third was a guy near Bargates who wondered if I could spare £2 for something to eat and a coffee........he was a short man but no word of a lie he had to be at least 18 stone ! He was bloody massive and clearly not someone who went hungry very often ! So is this a regular thing in Southampton or were they out in force cos they knew there was a game last night ? Was this Coxford_Lou, Pap and Bucks Saint?? Steve Grant's £5 drives people to poverty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Was this Coxford_Lou, Pap and Bucks Saint?? Steve Grant's £5 drives people to poverty Good one Patrick - you're getting better at this being funny lark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 So, I was in Birmingham for the weekend of the T20 finals. The day after the match, Mrs Stickman was doing some shopping and I was wandering aimlessly around the city centre when a big chap came up to me and said: 'Hi mate, good to see you again!' So, I thought to myself: I don't know who the hell this bloke is, and he must have read my mind because he said: 'We met at the station.' So, I thought to myself: no we didn't, and he said: ' You were with your wife.' So, I thought to myself : well, I was at the station and I did have my wife in tow and my memory's not what it was, and he said: ' You remember me, don't you?' So, I thought: he's gonna be a bit sad if I say no, so I said: 'Course I do, mate.' So, he said: 'Respect' and held out his fist and we did that knuckle rub thing, and then he said: 'Remind me again, what you doing up here?' So, I said: 'I came up for the cricket' So, he said: 'Oh yeah, how did it go?' So, I said: 'My team lost, but I suppose someone has to.' So, he said: 'Respect' again, and we did that knuckle rub thing again, and then he put his big arms around me and hugged me for what seemed to be far too long a time, and just when I started to fear that he was going to kiss me he let me go and said: 'I could murder a basket of chicken and chips.' So, some time after he'd departed with the couple of pound coins I gave him, I noticed he'd also rifled through the contents of my rucksack. So, the moral of this story is that village idiots like me shouldn't be allowed out in big bad cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 (edited) Wow, that's a new theory I've not come across before. Very generously giving money to charity gives you permission to be a wa*ker in the real world. If only charity advertising people had access to this new insight! I think the term you should use for me is worker. Read the facts and wise up: Overwhelming evidence shows that people who beg on the streets of England do so in order to buy hard drugs, particularly crack cocaine and heroin, and super-strength alcoholic beers and ciders. These highly addictive drugs cause an extreme deterioration in people’s health and even death. This evidence comes from a number of sources. Firstly Thames Reach’s outreach teams including its London Street Rescue service who are out and about on the streets of the capital working with London’s homeless 365 days of the year. They estimate that 80 per cent of people begging do so to support a drug habit. Secondly, when the Metropolitan Police did some drug testing of people arrested for begging, the figures indicated that between 70 and 80 per cent tested positive for Class A drugs. Most recently, in a police crackdown in Birmingham on begging in autumn 2013, every single one of the 40 people arrested failed a drug test. The evidence that the overwhelming majority of people begging on the streets of England spend their begging money on crack cocaine and heroin is indisputable. Wow, that's a new theory you've not come across before. Edited 12 February, 2015 by Guided Missile Information from a w*nker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I think the term you should use for me is worker. Read the facts and wise up: Wow, that's a new theory you've not come across before. This is a tough one and one of Society's major problems. Things is, if you went all out with a draconian policy of no begging and banged anyone up who did so - do you think this would stop people taking drugs? I'd take a guess that if you did, then muggings, burglaries etc would go up, as addicted users found a way to pay for their habit. I try not to give to beggars on the street, as it isn't really helping them (certainly given the evidence above). However, sometimes I buy one a coffee or choc bar or something - as I'm not a complete heartless bast@rd! I also used to think that no-one had a excuse to be homeless in this country with the Gov safety net, but have wizened up to the fact that people find themselves homeless for a whole variety of reasons and in an awful lot of cases it can be an un-diagnosed mental health issue (depression being the leading candidate). In short. Life is not black and white - there are many shades of grey in between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 This is a tough one and one of Society's major problems. Things is, if you went all out with a draconian policy of no begging and banged anyone up who did so - do you think this would stop people taking drugs? I'd take a guess that if you did, then muggings, burglaries etc would go up, as addicted users found a way to pay for their habit. Guess again: "I'm half convinced, but surely if you don't give to people who beg then they will only turn to crime to fund their drug or alcohol addiction." It is something of a counsel of despair to think that we would give our loose change to people begging to stop them committing crime. Besides, the evidence does not bear out this proposition. When the Metropolitan Police made numerous arrests for begging, it lead to the dispersal of regular beggars and an overall reduction in the number of people begging on the street. The police analysis that followed 'showed no displacement into crime by beggars moving off the street and the crime figures for the areas remained the same'. For hostel residents who persist in begging, a reduction in the income supplied through begging can be the catalyst that leads them to spend more time working with staff and thinking about the future. This makes it easier for them to move on to more long-term accommodation or appropriate treatment, and away from the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Me and the wife give generously. She gives to the homeless, I give to the topless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I think the term you should use for me is worker. Read the facts and wise up: Wow, that's a new theory you've not come across before. That has nothing to do with not being a **** to people though, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TUS Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Me and the wife give generously. She gives to the homeless, I give to the topless. The topless homeless must love bumping into you two ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 That has nothing to do with not being a **** to people though, does it? I tell drug addicts who bother me for money in the street, in order to buy drugs, to f*** off and instead I give money via Shelter to help genuine homeless people, all year round. I just happen to hate whiney, needy, crack heads. Sue me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Wow, that's a new theory I've not come across before. Very generously giving money to charity gives you permission to be a wa*ker in the real world. If only charity advertising people had access to this new insight! That's my experience with most self-labelling Christians. Act like a bloody hellion all week, but it's okay, God'll forgive you on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 That's my experience with most self-labelling Christians. Act like a bloody hellion all week, but it's okay, God'll forgive you on Sunday. You're thinking of Roman Catholics. Protestants rot in hell for eternity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 You're thinking of Roman Catholics. Protestants rot in hell for eternity... Same principle applies for most Protestants I've met. They just see going to church as the cleansing act, rather than confession. Still, as a business, confession is great, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mightysaints Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Most of them are scagheads. Any money you give them is for drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Same principle applies for most Protestants I've met. They just see going to church as the cleansing act, rather than confession. Still, as a business, confession is great, isn't it? Beats beheading, any day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Missile, give it a rest with all this liberal leftie nonsense. We all know the homeless should be burned as a renewable source of bio-fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Beats beheading, any day... Is that what happens in Islamic confession then? Do they have a kind of guillotine arrangement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Beheading doesn't necessarily solve the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I blame the Muslim looking guy behind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 (edited) Is that what happens in Islamic confession then? Do they have a kind of guillotine arrangement? If I confessed to ISIS that I was a non-believer they would behead me. If I confessed to ISIS that I was gay, they would throw me off a tall building and then stone me to death. If I did that as a Roman Catholic, the would admit me into the priesthood. Edited 12 February, 2015 by Guided Missile PS, for any members of ISIS reading, I'm not gay... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Missile, give it a rest with all this liberal leftie nonsense. We all know the homeless should be burned as a renewable source of bio-fuel. To be fair, I was talking about begging drug addicts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 The Hospital scan woman is a serial beggar. Often near the Station/Toys R Us Car Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 If I confessed to ISIS that I was a non-believer they would behead me. If I confessed to ISIS that I was gay, they would throw me off a tall building and then stone me to death. If I did that as a Roman Catholic, the would admit me into the priesthood. Ah, I see. You're equating a group of terrorists that seem to be doing their level best to drag Islam through the mud with the overall tenets of the faith. That'll work. Thing is, if the picture you're trying to paint was in any way accurate, I wouldn't be here to write this post. The whole family would have been killed as apostates when my nan secretly spirited all of my grandad's kids off to get christened CofE. That never happened. I'd have thought the old dear would have been honour-killed the moment she hooked up with my dad, too. Oh, and the gay people in my family would all have been put to death too. We're all still here. But hey. Don't let my reality mess with your fantasy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 But hey. Don't let my reality mess with your fantasy My fantasy concerned you having a sense of humour. I bet you're a bundle of fun to have a pint with... Cheerio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 My fantasy concerned you having a sense of humour. I bet you're a bundle of fun to have a pint with... Cheerio... ....and was predicated on you being funny in the first place Look to Joe Beasley and Cheeky Monkey for humour tips. A serious upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 (edited) I tell drug addicts who bother me for money in the street, in order to buy drugs, to f*** off and instead I give money via Shelter to help genuine homeless people, all year round. I just happen to hate whiney, needy, crack heads. Sue me.. Better hope one of those drug addicts doesn't end up stabbing you one day then. That'd be a tragedy. Edited 12 February, 2015 by Unbelievable Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 ....and was predicated on you being funny in the first place I can now see what was motivating that guy in NC. Jeez...back on ignore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I can now see what was motivating that guy in NC. Jeez...back on ignore. I'll miss the attention, obviously. I'll just have to go to the Global Warming thread and watch someone else hand your arse to you. I'm quite busy on here anyways. Delegation is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Better hope one of those drug addicts doesn't end up stabbing you one day then. That'd be a tragedy. Come now. Guided Missile has demonstrated the qualities he needs to survive. Either 1) Ignore them 2) Run away when scared Or 3) Combination of the above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Come now. Guided Missile has demonstrated the qualities he needs to survive. Either 1) Ignore them 2) Run away when scared Or 3) Combination of the above That'd be entertaining, a guy bending down snarling and shouting "**** off" to the guy in the gutter, who may, or may not have a drug problem, then running off when said homeless man says "God bless". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coxford_lou Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 I think the term you should use for me is worker. Read the facts and wise up: Wow, that's a new theory you've not come across before. Hello. Er, thanks for helping me wise up, but I know the acts plenty already. My surprise was around the fact you give to a charity where you disrespect the people the charity is benefiting. That's novel, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 That'd be entertaining, a guy bending down snarling and shouting "**** off" to the guy in the gutter, who may, or may not have a drug problem, then running off when said homeless man says "God bless". I never knew that GM was part of the Overt Ignore Brigade. Personally, I haven't ignored anyone on this site ever. It's an admission of defeat. Even if you say nowt about it (Covert Ignore Brigade) it's that. The Overt Ignore Brigade are far, far worse, basically on account of the fact that they announce their cowardice and expect people to be bothered or impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Hi Pap, if I don't actually put anyone on my ignore list, but just choose to ignore and not respond to idiotic posts that I read on a case-by-case basis, does that make me part of the Covert Ignore Brigade or Overt Ignore Brigade? Only I can't think of a suitable rhyme for a third category (avert? divert? subvert? pervert?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Hi Pap, if I don't actually put anyone on my ignore list, but just choose to ignore and not respond to idiotic posts that I read on a case-by-case basis, does that make me part of the Covert Ignore Brigade or Overt Ignore Brigade? Only I can't think of a suitable rhyme for a third category (avert? divert? subvert? pervert?). No, sadly you make neither Brigade. I work in mostly the same way. The difference is this; the pair of us can trust ourselves not to completely lose our sh!t over an Internet post. We are capable of reading, comprehending and thinking "that's nice, but I can't be arsed". This contrasts with those that use the Ignore facility, which is all about people not having the self-control to moderate the maelstrom of emotions they feel when they read a post they don't like. You are fine, deano6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 You're not so bad yourself, handsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Why are people cowards if they put somebody on ignore? I don't follow your conclusion. Sometimes it is better not to respond to some posters. It isn't an admission of defeat as much as an admission that one might be banging ones head against a brick wall sometimes. Why should you also conclude that people put somebody on ignore in order to impress others? You'd have to be pretty shallow to care what others think about you on an internet forum. PS I haven't quoted you, in case it offends Misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Why are people cowards if they put somebody on ignore? I don't follow your conclusion. Sometimes it is better not to respond to some posters. It isn't an admission of defeat as much as an admission that one might be banging ones head against a brick wall sometimes. Why should you also conclude that people put somebody on ignore in order to impress others? You'd have to be pretty shallow to care what others think about you on an internet forum. PS I haven't quoted you, in case it offends Misguided. Covered in previous post to deano6, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Covered in previous post to deano6, I think. Yes, fair enough. Didn't see it before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Shelter is a charity that provides help and assistance to the homeless, not money to drug addicts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Beggars **** me off I've been homeless and dossed down on the streets for a few weeks when I was younger , there is a choice you can get off the streets you just have to go to the right places and speak to the right people! I have a strict no giving if they ask policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Beggars **** me off I've been homeless and dossed down on the streets for a few weeks when I was younger , there is a choice you can get off the streets you just have to go to the right places and speak to the right people! I have a strict no giving if they ask policy The police have told me that in Southampton there is a bed for every person that wants one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 The police have told me that in Southampton there is a bed for every person that wants one. Same here in Edinburgh, was speaking to a Policeman on NYE and he told me the same. Said that there are enough beds but that some prefer sleeping rough on the street, as long as the coppers know them and know roughly where they're sleeping they let them be. I've been stopped by the "£2 for the bus" woman many times over the years, gets on my nerves tbh but obviously something's wrong in her life to be keeping her in that situation. Sad really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 February, 2015 Share Posted 12 February, 2015 Same here in Edinburgh, was speaking to a Policeman on NYE and he told me the same. Said that there are enough beds but that some prefer sleeping rough on the street, as long as the coppers know them and know roughly where they're sleeping they let them be. I've been stopped by the "£2 for the bus" woman many times over the years, gets on my nerves tbh but obviously something's wrong in her life to be keeping her in that situation. Sad really. They sleep rough because in order to have a bed they need to not abuse drink and drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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